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the best ever cyberman design goes to...
Okay, I've done a search & it looks like such a thread has never been posted. So which is your favourite design? I struggle as I like elements of a lot of them.
Trying to keep it relatively simple (as there have been subtle variations or add-ons) lets go with: -Mark I (Tenth Planet) -Mark II (The Moonbase to Wheel in Space) -Mark III (The Invasion to Revenge of the Cybermen) -Mark IV (Earthshock to Silver Nemesis) -Mark V (Rise of the Cybermen to Closing Time) -Mark VI (Nightmare in Silver) You may like a specific variation too. Like if I had to choose one, it would probably be the Revenge of the Cybermen design. ..Then again, I do like elements of the next variation from Earthshock onwards, and I quite like the very latest one, although it is a bit C3POish (not that's a bad thing -it still looks great and I prefer it over the last one which looked like it had flared pants!) |
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I think I like the Earthshock ones best. I would like to see a modern take on those at some point in the future.
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I think I like the Earthshock ones best. I would like to see a modern take on those at some point in the future.
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Have to go for the cybermen design in Earthshock to Silver Nemesis. It's a design that stands the test of time also, the balance between human and machine is the best also. I do like the design from Rise of the Cybermen, more the face than the clunky bodies.
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Tenth Planet for me.
Considering this was 1966, those designs and the execution of the costumes was phenomenal. I like the bulky chest units, the massive lamp, the still human hands. Something very creepy about them still having human hands. Even the voices are terrific - OK they don't always work quite right, the voice isn't always quite in synch with the actors, but the idea of it is superb. A mouth opening, synthesised speech, with the stresses and emphasis all wrong to our ears, and at the end the mouth just closes. Brilliant. I would love to see these updated for the 21st Century - keep the design as it is, but simply update with modern tech and costume ability. Like they did with the Daleks in 2005. Just imagine what these Cybermen could look like today. Having said that - have you seen this? http://mattsav-concept.blogspot.co.u...re-design.html A fantastic blend of classic Cybermen, Tenth Planet Cybs and today's designs. Give this guy of job on Who. Now! |
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The Moonbase design
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I have to say "Earthshock", which is odd because I felt that Classic Cybermen designs were fairly weak after "The Invasion". I think it's a good balance between being human-like, and being machine-like. It's just a good design that is simply great.
However, I also really like the ones from "The Tenth Planet", and from "Nightmare in Silver", but for the absolute opposite reasons. I like TTP design because of how human it is, it's cybernetic augmentation gone too far, and there's something a little sad about it. All they are at this point are human corpses hooked up to life support systems. The NiS design because of how machine it is, there is nothing human left to them. All humanity has been removed, and there's nothing recognizably human left in there, and what little there is has been reduced to data. |
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Moonbase. Cold and so, so creepy.
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Invasion, classic design
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any chance we could have pics , I can't remember them all .
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The Earthshock Mark IV design is the one I automatically think of, but that's partly an age thing as that story was the first I saw with the Cybermen as a kid. In retrospect, although I do find Mark I strangely effective, especially combined with the sing song voice, I'd go with Mark II. (agree that The Invasion Cybermen look great, but the flarey Seventies version loses them points!)
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Earthshock Cybermen. Far better then the recent ones.
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any chance we could have pics , I can't remember them all .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZcSW5Cqz3g |
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ok I'd go for Wheel in Space , the first one with the teardrop eyes .
all the new-Who designs should be trashed along with the fat Daleks . |
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Cool vid, loving the song selections!
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Cool vid, loving the song selections!
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How they were in Tomb of the Cybermen is perfect, for me. Earthshock was also alright but their voices...
The current design hardly makes any sense. It's as though they now can't do a proper Cyberman design because they're afraid of it being too scary. |
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Earthshock. Much creepier where you can still see parts of the human body like the Borg in Star Trek. The nuwho versions are rubbish IMO. Too much robot and not enough human. The production team should see the clues in the name.... Cyber man
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Tenth Planet definitely. They were the most human and therefore the most frightening.
I feel they've got progressively worse since then. Each one on the list I feel I like just a little bit less than the previous one. |
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I like the most recent revamp, a lot of the elements look like they've been taken much closer to the originals. I just can't get over them moving fast. You don't make them interesting by making them unbeatable. They shouldn't be fundamentally broken. Basically, they should be zombies.
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Me too. That design perfectly reflected the nature of the Cybermen (half human-half machine). The NuWho Cybermen might just as well be robots, to be honest.
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OMG I never even realised this before with that is so true Mulett... agree 100%. They are only creepy when you have a sense of humanity in there...
But I thought that worked. You can only care so much about a completely emotionless enemy. |
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OMG I never even realised this before with that is so true Mulett... agree 100%. They are only creepy when you have a sense of humanity in there...
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I think Rise of the Cybermen and Age of Steel had a good balance. You could see the process, and identify that they used to be people. As it is, though, we rarely meet the people they used to be, and rarely see the glimmer of humanity within - whether in their dialogue or their design. It's the point where the two intersect that's harrowing, and they've increasingly drifted away from that. There's the conversion, they use the conversion a lot, but there's rarely the sense that you're effectively being invaded by yourselves.
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I think most episodes do generally invoke the cyber thing at least a little bit. The Next Doctor had them convert their closest ally, Closing Time had cyberconversion at its heart, huge plot point, right at the end, and Nightmare to Remember put most of its cast into walking comas and sent an entire cyberplatoon into the Doctor's skull. They're good at incorporating that stuff - but it's like corruption of living tissue is their special ability, rather than their very essence as it was in Rise of the Cybermen and, to a lesser extent, Army of Ghosts. I think a lot of the most interesting Cyberman stories are yet to be told.
We've not seen them as proper body snatchers, yet. A cyber platoon that maims, rather than kills - and takes its prisoners somewhere abominable. |
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