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CS: Has Tina really had a personality transplant?
I have been wondering this for some time during this affair storyline and my opinion is that Tina hasn't really had a personality transplant in order to push this story forward. I know it may seem weird saying so as she's turned into quite the bunny boiler, but here's why I think this:
[just a note: I felt like writing this post in a bit of a humorous way. The bits in bold are not representing any one person, and are just my way of generalizing some of the statements I've seen on here and on twitter. I also quite like the character of Tina, and this is not an opportunity for me to have a go at the character. I like my characters flawed and all. Okay, on with the show! ]She got involved with an engaged man Would Tina have been attracted to Peter if Tommy was still around? Probably not. But Tommy (regardless of the actual reasons why his character left) did leave her in a pretty harsh way. Perhaps the reason she didn't seem so bothered about it at first was because she may have convinced herself that Tommy was just 'letting off steam' and he would return once he got his head straight. When it was revealed that he in fact, was not coming back, she was heartbroken and vulnerable. Peter gave her attention, and because he was older, she probably felt safe with him. Do I think it was love? No. I think she was rebounding, and had a bit of lust for Peter, as well as a drive for attention, felt part of a family unit, and had a real need to be loved. Rebound, Shmebound! It may have been confusion and rebounding at first but she's now engaged in a full blown affair! This is the woman who freaked out when Gary tried to kiss her when she was pregnant! It's just not like her to be so hypocritical Ahhhh but when did hypocrisy not befall any character of that street before? There has always been characters that judge others harshly for things they have done, or in Tina's case: will do, in the future. She's no exception. She's already looked down her nose at Kylie for her one night stand with Nick, and said a few nice words about Dennis and Gloria's affair, despite simultaneously deciding to stay in Weatherfield to restart her own affair with Peter. She's allowing herself to be taken in by Peter's lies. She used to be smarter than that Was she though? I don't think Tina's character was ever really intelligent. She couldn't see the affair between Graeme and Xin right under her nose. She also believed every.single.one of her father's lies until they started to unravel quite publicly. Okay, but she was once a really moral character. Now she's just completely bunny boiler! Chasing Peter around, calling his phone ad nauseum, throwing tantrums...it's just not Tina Since when? Tina has been a pushy, bossy, in-your-face-with-no-fear-of-the-circumstances character since she arrived. She aborted her and David's baby and didn't tell him; it's absolutely her body, her choice, but I'd like to think that such a 'moral character' whom was so in love with David at the time, would most likely have told the father first. She also cheated on Jason with Graeme. Yes she was depressed about her father's death and Graeme seemed to be the only one who understood her, but Jason was there for her, day in day out and she kept herself closed off from him. She did break his heart in the end, and told both him and David that in regards to her and Graeme, they could either like it or lump it. I'm not condoning Kirsty's treatment of Tyrone, but for goodness sake, Tina certainly did not make his new relationship easy. She picked a fight with Kirsty and kept it going on and on and on and ON, even resorting to pushing a pregnant woman in the pub, her place of employment. <---you'll see a trend with this in a bit... She got in the faces of the loan sharks who were after Tommy, trying to be the 'big I am' by threatening them, only to get a lesson in how loan sharks respond to threats from obnoxious little girls by beating up her boyfriend pretty brutally. She then threatened the same loan shark AGAIN after he kidnapped Rita. Girl.does.not.learn. Let's not even get started on trying to keep Gary and Izzy's baby, whilst also feeling so entitled as to keep the money the Windass/Armstrong clan paid her as a surrogate to use to fight them in court! (She really deserved that bitchslap from Anna, and Anna's rant to the rest of the pub, calling them out for their hypocritical defense of Tina, when they knew that if it was anyone else but her trying to pull that, they would be the first to condemn them, was so bang on I actually cheered when it aired ) She threw a brick through Barlow's Buys. Seriously, what is she, eight? She throws drinks on people at the pub (her place of work) and steals a bottle of vodka to down in the park. She's barely at work, and when she is, she's constantly taking breaks and getting time off for being a chavvy little thing to customers. She followed Kylie out of the pub at Christmas, despite Liz warning her she'd sack her if she did, because she was in the mood for a fight. She started the fight with Kylie in which the latter was arrested, went back into the pub and was told she could have the remainder of the day off if needed by the same woman who threatened to sack her just minutes earlier. Hmmm maybe it's the pub that affects her behaviour. *twilight zone theme plays in background* Okay but in this storyline, Peter's taking advantage of her and the old Tina wouldn't stand for his behaviour Let's not put all the blame on Peter here, ala Liz McDonald. Tina chased Peter prior to his wedding, stating that 'he didn't want to marry Carla,' when in actuality it was that she didn't want him to marry Carla. She continued to hound him at the wedding, including staying behind after everyone had left just so she could tell him she shouldn't have come and that she was leaving. [Thanks Tips. Whatever would we do without you. ] She then chased him after he returned from his honeymoon despite him telling her to steer clear of him. She tried to make him jealous by flirting and kissing Rob. She continued to cling to him during their affair and is now hounding him to leave Carla because she has zero concept of what a mistress is, or how affairs work, or that he is simply keeping her onside with words of 'love' to keep her quiet. I could go on but this post is already longer than I thought it would be, and really here's the fine line: Tina, since she arrived on the street, was a character who would stamp her foot and throw a tantrum if she didn't get her way, and this storyline has not changed that! Peter didn't rush over to see her when she wanted him to, so she pulled a 'It's my turn!" temper tantrum, then proceeded to threaten to ring the doorbell knowing Carla was inside later that evening. She didn't get the response from peter that she wanted, so the next night she's at his flat ringing the doorbell only to discover that he and Steve were having a 'lad's night out'. So I ask...has she really changed? I think not. Let the debate begin!
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I said this way back at the start of the affair, but I honestly think they could've made this affair work on screen if they'd devoted enough time to building it up, and had more dialogue between the two instead of just endless scenes of them ripping each other's clothes off. I remember back when Tina was drinking in the park and Rita went to find her, thinking that I could imagine Peter swooping in and helping her in the same way he had Carla. In fact, when I heard about the affair back in the summer, I thought this was going to be their direction. I thought Tina would be in bits over Tommy, drowning her sorrows, and Peter would be the older, supportive man who took her under his wing. It would've been a repeat of Peter and Carla, but it would've been realistic. Instead, we had Tina seemingly fine about the split, go to babysit Simon and suddenly, without warning, develop this intense lust for his father that resulted in them jumping into bed a week later. For me, this is proof that the affair can't have been planned for very long beforehand, because otherwise surely they'd have built it up for longer?
As for whether it's hugely out of character for Tina: yes and no. Her turning into a jealous bunny boiler, as the story seems to be going, I don't think is drastically different at all. As you said, she's always demanded her own way and made her feelings clear if that didn't happen. She was never going to roll over and just accept that she'd been used. Equally, as much as she's often acted quite morally superior around people who have affairs, the fact that she'd start seeing a married man isn't all that unlikely - I mean, loads of people have affairs, and someone as young as Tina could perfectly realistically be swept away by the faux-romance of it and abandon her morals. What annoys me about this affair, other than the lack of build up, is that there's been zero effort to suggest Tina and Peter have anything in common. If it'd been a quick fling, Peter had dumped her and carried on walking round with Carla, I could see Tina getting annoyed. But bringing love into the equation? Nah. I just cannot comprehend what Tina would ever see in Peter. If this is souless rebound, if she's clinging to the opposite of what's she's ever known, if she's looking for a father figure, then that should've been shown on screen. And why the nicey-nicey to Carla? Admittedly she's not trying so hard now, but in recent weeks she's been all "are you ok?" and acting like she really cares about Carla to her face, then leaving to shag her husband. The 'real' Tina would've certainly felt guilty about that. So basically: No, it's not necessarily out of character for Tina to have a fling with a married man, but yes, it is out of character for it to be with Peter, under these circumstances. |
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Agree she's always been hot headed, chavvy and gullible but the bunny boiler is out of character and actually really annoying lol
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I don't think it's out of character. She's had such a turbulent life, and so many things have happened to her in the space of six years. It makes sense that she'd start to become a little but cold.
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For me, the thing with Gary kissing her was probably more about the fact that she was carrying his and Izzy's baby for them on the belief that they're a strong couple and deserve to have a baby of their own. For Gary to then throw that back in her face while she's heavily pregnant, she'd probably have been thinking "Why have I even bothered to put my body through this for you if you're just going to cheat and ruin your relationship?!" I know that's what I would be thinking in her shoes
I just wanted to throw that in, I'll let everyone else answer the other points because I really can't justify it myself
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I hate the fact that the writers mistook constant accidental meetings for actual chemistry.
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] She then chased him after he returned from his honeymoon despite him telling her to steer clear of him. She tried to make him jealous by flirting and kissing Rob. She continued to cling to him during their affair and is now hounding him to leave Carla because she has zero concept of what a mistress is, or how affairs work, or that he is simply keeping her onside with words of 'love' to keep her quiet. 
