To be honest this is the only diet I have been on where I'm not hungry all the time. When I eat carbs within an hour or two I am starving, so am constantly looking for food and planning my next meal in my head. It is torturous.

With this I have 2 scrambled eggs and a slice of torchon ham for breakfast, chicken, tuna, salmon, or beef mince with peppers, onion, mushrooms, salad etc for lunch and tea with a fat free yoghurt mid afternoon to stave off the sweet tooth.

It doesn't seem like a diet to be honest. Just hope it results in some decent weight loss eventually as it is expensive

I disagree. 2000 kcals is an average amount for an average woman. 2000kcals for a 5ft tall woman may make her fat in the long term, for a 6ft tall woman may make her underweight. Also people have different metabolic rates, 1200kcals maybe optimum for someone, whereas someone else maybe able to consume 5000kcals per day without putting on any bodyfat. Its best to know your body and find out what works for you, and not worry about average guidelines.

I recommend sugar free jelly for a sweet tooth fix. You can either eat it on its own, or if you mix it with quark cheese it taste a lot like cheesecake topping.

Protein takes longer to digest than carbs or fats, so will fill you up for longer.

Also highlights hot chocolate is good only 40 calories and if you need a chocolate fix not too bad at all.

Ooh thanks, that's the only thing I'm finding is the sweet craving kick in mid afternoon, thanks (not sure about the carbs in an options drink mind) x

Well it is only a treat for when you just can't live without chocolate

It doesn't have to be a seesaw of low carb = high protein.

Giving up on one food group and then hugely over-compensating by only eating another seems a bit daft.

When considering diet I think it's important to consider what our bodies have been designed (or evolved) to deal with.
Our ancestors probably ate a lot of vegetables, berries, and pulses.
Fruit was seasonal and wouldn't have been available for most of the year.
Meat/fish was relatively difficult to come by and certainly wouldn't have been part of every meal.

I'm not saying we should return to eating primitive diets, but it isn't a coincidence that eating a broad range of vegetables, leafy greens, onions, berries and beans are still considered the 'super foods' for our health.

It's not daft if it improves your health, diabetes under control, half dose of blood pressure meds and can walk for ages not out of puff by the end of the road.

No daft is eating carbs and sugar and being ill all the time.
I think bodies are different what is daft for you isn't for me but I would never proclaim my diet is right for everyone or even many people.

What about Inuits? Very high levels of proteins and fats in their diet and little in the way of carbs, yet they have some of the lowest (if not the lowest) levels of heart disease, cancer and diabetes in the world.

Our ancestors may have lived this way, depending on what area they lived in, but they also lived to about 30yrs old.

Quite right Mollie. I am glad you feel so much fitter and healthier. The change of diet has clearly made a huge positive impact on your life.

That is really good

If we're going by statistics (your choice) Innuit men's life expectancy is 67.7 years as opposed to 77.5 years for Canadian men.

Life expectancy statistics aren't a reflection of diet alone. The Inuit also have high suicide rates, poor sanitation in over-crowded houses, as well as high COPD rates due to smoking, and high accident rates.

They have very little in the way of diet related illness though, can you explain why that is if you think high protein diets are bad for you?

Well studies suggest it isn't altogether good for you

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...eat-eggs-dairy

I'd say a high anything diet is probably not ideal and a balanced approach is best, or would you not agree?
Your username suggests you are probably into body building, and maintaining an unrealistic and contrived body shape will often require an over-reliance on proteins.
That's fine for people who are into that, but most of us with no such inclinations are fine with balanced diets I think.

Exactly, same could said for our early-dying ancestors who were victims of circumstance, disease and perils as well as their diet.
It wasn't me who brought pointless statistics into the debate.

From your link

'according to a controversial study into the impact of protein consumption on longevity.'

' nutrition experts have cautioned that it's too early to draw firm conclusions from the research'

'I would urge general caution over observational studies, and particularly when looking at diet, given the difficulties of disentangling one nutrient or dietary component from another. You can get an association that might have some causal linkage or might not," said Peter Emery, head of nutrition and dietetics at King's College London.

Gunter Kuhnle, a food nutrition scientist at Reading University, said it was wrong "and potentially even dangerous" to compare the effects of smoking with the effect of meat and cheese as the study does.'

Hardly conclusive is it!

As posted earlier - this has been debunked already

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2014/03March/...ddle-aged.aspx

Yes I am into weight training, but I don't think mollipops is into bodybuilding like I am!

It depends on the individual what diet is best for them. How can you possibly disagree with what mollie has posted about her fantastic achievements. Personally I do have a balanced diet, very balanced infact. I am just not dismissive of what works well for other people, unlike yourself.

Again you ignored my previous. I guess you are unable to answer.

You brought the Inuit vs Canadian statistic into it.

LOL no body building is not my cup of tea much happier with a knitting pattern and wool or a good book. But the diet has made a huge difference to my life, if I had not changed to this eating pattern I may have died last year, now I cannot see how it could be cutting my life shorter as any time is a bonus compared with when I started.

I wouldn't suggest it for everyone but we have to work with the bodies we have and mine seems to like this.

Yes, I'm the same, not a bodybuilder!

My body seems to like it too. When I ate a lot of carbs ( which were primarily white bread, pasta, cereal, pizza, crisps and other assorted junk) I was hardly ever off the loo, cramps, gassy tummy etc. I was bloated, lethargic, I had puffy eyes, dull skin etc.

4 weeks of cutting out all that and I've lost 10lbs any many inches. My hair is no longer dandruffy, greasy and limp, my nails are growing fast and strong and I feel like I have more energy.

It's a no brainer for me, I still eat carbs but In the form of vegetables. It's the cereals that I seem to have a problem with I think. All of the symptoms of insulin resistance applied to me and I'm sure if I'd have carried on the eventually I would be a diabetes statistic

I did the Atkins diet back in the day - that's what this basically is, right? - and it was fine for a couple of months until my pizza and bread craving kicked in.

Also, look to your pee. High protein diet will probably turn your pee orange - that's your kidneys working overtime. Fingers crossed you don't get kidney stones - drink plenty of water, which also fills you up so win-win.

Personally I've been doing the 5:2 for 14 months now and am at a stable weight. The trick is not so much diets, per se, but finding the "way of life" that you can actually stick at.

NO not the atkins at all, I eat loads of vegetables and don't go crazy on fat and calorific foods very unlike the atkins where you have cream and loads of meat etc.

Good initial loss but the 1lb a week is really poor for such a restrictive diet. You would probably lose more following WW or SW or just calorie counting and including carbs such as rice, pasta, pots and fruit. I never understand why people follow low carb diets, they really are just a gimmick and only work because a whole food group is either eliminated or greatly restricted. I have three good friend who between them lost 18 stone with SW, eating normal, every day foods.

Carbs are high in calories so following a low calorie diet makes sense to cut the carbs. Also if you are diabetic you have to cut them anyway.

Several reasons low carb eating works for weight loss and it's not a gimmick it works neither is it that restrictive. 1lb a week isn't a bad weight loss each week all serious dieticians don't recommend losing much more per week as it is not sustainable in the long run.