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Old 30-12-2016, 14:08
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Agreed that infuriates me intensely the produces really must think we have memories like the proverbial goldfish. Commercial TV excels at it at the end of part one hinting whats coming up in part two and then at the start of part two reminding us of what we saw 5 or 10 minutes ago.
It's considered essential in the US because it is notoriously a nation of channel hoppers. As the number of channels has increased in the UK it's only natural that the technique should start to appear over here. It has nothing to do with the state of your memory. It's designed to hook viewers who haven't actually seen the preceding minutes as they pass.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:11
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Also: switching on the TV, any time, day or night, and it's always in the middle of an ad break.
Tune to a BBC channel before you switch it off. Problem solved!
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:34
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It's considered essential in the US because it is notoriously a nation of channel hoppers. As the number of channels has increased in the UK it's only natural that the technique should start to appear over here. It has nothing to do with the state of your memory. It's designed to hook viewers who haven't actually seen the preceding minutes as they pass.
Sorry, but I think that's a very naive outlook.

They use it so that they can save money by expanding programmes to nearly double their size (in some cases) without any extra expensive filming.
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:37
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Sorry, but I think that's a very naive outlook.

They use it so that they can save money by expanding programmes to nearly double their size (in some cases) without any extra expensive filming.
I think a few sessions with a stopwatch will quickly prove that to be hyperbolic nonsense!
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:46
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Tune to a BBC channel before you switch it off. Problem solved!
I'll write myself a note!
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:48
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Tune to a BBC channel before you switch it off. Problem solved!
You're then almost guaranteed to get a preview of what's coming up on BBC!
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:03
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I think a few sessions with a stopwatch will quickly prove that to be hyperbolic nonsense!
I only wish it was. (Although, I should have mentioned that the expansion included the adverts and trailers.)

A programme can include three ad breaks, each containing four minutes of adverts and one of trailers/announcements. 15 minutes

Each of these breaks can be surrounded by 90 seconds on each side of recaps/look aheads. 9 minutes.

Announcements/adds at the top and tail of the programme: 4 minutes

So the elapsed time to show 30 minutes of non repeated programme material is 57 minutes. Which is pretty close to double.

Of course, it is, as I said, only the worst culprits that are as bad as that.
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Old 30-12-2016, 16:06
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Sort of a different one this, but camera angles.

Since the move to widescreen, closeups on people always seem too tight. I've noticed when watching old shows in 4:3, that the shots were better shot, not so close and better framed.

Yet I remember when shows started to moved to widescreen, that they made a big deal about you being able to see more, yet we see less now.
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Old 31-12-2016, 17:01
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Sound effects in space, especially on science documentaries like this BBC Horizon Clip > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY5T3S4daHQ.
I read this on the internet so it must be true.
"Sound travels through the vibration of atoms and molecules in a medium (such as air or water). In space, where there is no air, sound has no way to travel."
Sound effects in space, especially on science programmes such as the BBC science review Clip> https://youtu.be/NT4oldy_CVo
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Old 31-12-2016, 18:04
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Gordon bloody Buchanan, he's good 'n all but he's on BBC every time I turn it on
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Old 31-12-2016, 22:18
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Reality shite everywhere!

I've seen adverts for Let It Shine, Dance Dance Dance and The Voice! ENOUGH ALREADY!!
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:36
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^ The advert for Dance Dance Dance annoys me by making out that it's a new concept. It sounds exactly the same as the BBC's Let's Dance For Comic Relief.
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Old 31-12-2016, 23:38
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Robbie Williams needs the words to his songs on the autocue? ffs....
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Old 01-01-2017, 04:34
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Robbie Williams needs the words to his songs on the autocue? ffs....
Genuinely somebody you could not pay me to go and see perform live. Even in the 90's, arguably the last time he was any good, he'd spend most of his live songs holding the mic to the crowd for them to sing it.

I think Lee Mack once said in his routine: "Come on Robbie, I've paid for you to sing your song"

Most live performances I've seen of him on TV, his voice has sounded terrible...
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:39
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Robbie Williams needs the words to his songs on the autocue? ffs....
I've seen loads of performers have prompters/autocue on stage. I don't know why on the thread on his NYE concert he was getting singled out like he's the only one.

It's their to prompt him if he forgets the words. As far as I could tell he only looked down on it a couple of times throughout the whole performance: before and after the fireworks.

He even turned one of the prompters round to the audience so they could sing along to My Way. Whilst doing this he never even looked at the other one once.
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:51
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Constant comedy retrospectives

Last night was the 6789th documentary/retrospective on Morecambe and Wise. We know they were talented, very funny, and unmissable.....but we are reminded of this constantly, in documentaries with nothing new to say. In fact the documentaries write themselves

* Veteran comedian saying that 'Eric and Ernie were the best in the business' - check

* Narrator saying in 70s Britain everyone tuned into the Morecambe and Wise show at Christmas - check

*'Playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order' sketch, talk about how great it is. - check

* Angela Rippon fake news report sketch - check

* Breakfast 'stripper' sketch with talking heads saying about its genius and timing - check

*Long running Des O'Connor gags - check

It's the same with The Two Ronnie and Dads Army. We know they're good but the constant barrage of cookie cutter documentaries with the same scenes shown over and over.
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:59
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You're then almost guaranteed to get a preview of what's coming up on BBC!
Although it's not her fault, any programme hosted by Alice Roberts always has three minutes of a pointless repeated intro which I now automatically skip through before the real programme actually starts. It must be the fault of the production company, because there are several others of a similar nature which I can't put names to at the moment.
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Old 02-01-2017, 13:35
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Genuinely somebody you could not pay me to go and see perform live. Even in the 90's, arguably the last time he was any good, he'd spend most of his live songs holding the mic to the crowd for them to sing it.

I think Lee Mack once said in his routine: "Come on Robbie, I've paid for you to sing your song"

Most live performances I've seen of him on TV, his voice has sounded terrible...
It's because he likes his audience to feel a part of the show. If all you wanted was to hear him sing you could save your money and listen to his CD's at home. I went to a Stereophonics gig a few years ago. They played their tracks to perfection, but that's all they did. No connection to the audience, just Kelly saying 'And the next song is...', I could've saved fifty quid and stayed at home. Robbie is an entertainer first and foremost, who freely admits he's not got a particularly good voice. But then a lot of top selling male singers haven't got what I call 'good' voices. Save that for opera. If you don't like Robbie, stick with Aled Jones.
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Old 02-01-2017, 17:40
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It's because he likes his audience to feel a part of the show. If all you wanted was to hear him sing you could save your money and listen to his CD's at home. I went to a Stereophonics gig a few years ago. They played their tracks to perfection, but that's all they did. No connection to the audience, just Kelly saying 'And the next song is...', I could've saved fifty quid and stayed at home. Robbie is an entertainer first and foremost, who freely admits he's not got a particularly good voice. But then a lot of top selling male singers haven't got what I call 'good' voices. Save that for opera. If you don't like Robbie, stick with Aled Jones.
Crowd interaction is important, but too much of it can ruin the set imo. Applying your logic, if the chorus of a song was left up to me to do the singing, I could likewise just take my fifty quid and go out in town or to the nearest drunken party.

Imagine forking out to go and see an F1 race and you're told they'll do 5 laps but the rest is over to you to drive your Ford Fiesta or Vauxhall Insignia around instead...

p.s. Russell Watson is more my scene xo
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Old 04-01-2017, 01:32
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I think Lee Mack once said in his routine: "Come on Robbie, I've paid for you to sing your song"
Indeed, here's the clip of Lee.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:15
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I tell you what annoys me, this might just be mean that I am on my own here, but why can't shows if they are all filmed and "in the can" so to speak, but put out all at once say on demand, rather than having to watch them once a week?

To me,that is such an old school way of doing things, especially when there is the competition from Netflix whose sole premise seems to be doing just that.

I don't really get why in this day and age, all shows are not just put on demand for everyone to watch whenever they want.
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Old 04-01-2017, 13:43
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The new BBC One idents entitled 'Oneness' that also feature in the 'This is BBC One HD' cannot show local news from your area.
The hippos, circling bicycles etc. were on for 10 years. God help us if this lot are on that long.
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