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Kodaz
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“ITV used to have an excellent breakast show in the eighties”

Yes, but that was made by TV-am, the original breakfast franchise holder. Don't make the mistake of crediting that to the modern ITV plc (i.e. the current breakfast franchise holder) or even its predecessors.

Remember that back then "ITV" simply (and only) referred to the network of independent franchisees, not a company. (*)

TV-am shares no connection or lineage with the modern ITV plc (or any other ITV network company). They ceased to have anything to do with TV when they lost their franchise, and the facilities were sold off to MTV. (**)

The present-day breakfast franchisee (now owned by ITV plc) isn't the descendant of TV-am, it's the descendant of their rival GMTV that took over the franchise in 1993.


In short, TV-am had nothing to do with the modern "ITV" in any sense.


(*) And even then, TV-am had little to do with the rest of the (otherwise regional) ITV network anyway. Unlike the regional franchisees, they didn't (IIRC) show material produced by other ITV companies nor produce material for them.

(**) Apparently they transformed drastically into a (now-dormant) gambling-related company, though I doubt that had much connection with its original incarnation beyond who owned it.
Ben_Hunt
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“When Daybreak started they went with an unusual purple logo, and everyone hated it.

Therefore it is compulsory that all Breakfast programmes must be either red, orange or yellow.”

Yeah I realise that, but even the typography is near enough the same! It's pretty much the second incarnation of the Daybreak logo with a different shaped text box.
SamuelW
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Paxman will be jealous.................

Is your partner's snoring driving you crazy?
Does he or she keep you awake all night? Does it affect your relationship and quality of life?

If so, please contact us and we might ask you to appear on TV on Monday 28th April.

http://www.itv.com/daybreak/is-your-...ving-you-crazy”

If that's the kind of thing they think will help their ratings rise, theyre badly mistaken. Awful segments like the above are why Itv's breakfast show trails so far behind BBC's. You cant expect viewers to take a show seriously with segments like the above.
Rob1985
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by groovesection:
“Is he the leathery faced man who pretends to be in L.A when he is obviously filming in a broom cupboard from the other side of the Studio with a green screen of the Hollywood sign?
Comes across as a bit of a **** imo.
I am sure he got his cock out on the show (by accident of course)
He was talking to Lorraine from his broom cupboard and stood up to show of his Kilt, Lorraine said something about what have you got on under your Kilt and he then proceeded to jump around and I am sure he flashed his cock ”

In your dreams!!
Andy23
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“If that's the kind of thing they think will help their ratings rise, theyre badly mistaken. Awful segments like the above are why Itv's breakfast show trails so far behind BBC's. You cant expect viewers to take a show seriously with segments like the above.”

I'm pretty sure there have been items about snoring on BBC Breakfast before.

Do you actually watch BBC Breakfast, it isn't wall to wall hard news anymore, the content after 35 past is usually stuff that wouldn't make it into the running order on Look North.
SamuelW
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I'm pretty sure there have been items about snoring on BBC Breakfast before.

Do you actually watch BBC Breakfast, it isn't wall to wall hard news anymore, the content after 35 past is usually stuff that wouldn't make it into the running order on Look North.”

I only catch BBC Breakast between 6-8am, if I do. Not a huge breakfast tv viewer, more radio.
Ben_Hunt
23-04-2014
This is non-specific to GMB but more about Breakfast television as a whole. I figured given the name of the show, it might be inspired by Good Morning America, of course owned by Disney who once had a share in GMTV. I just wondered why no one has ever borrowed from American breakfast formats? So taking a Wright Stuff/Loose Women panel but without the studio audiences and phone ins and more news debate, interviews beyond a two person presenting team in a set that's supposed to look like they're squatting there.

I know C5 do News Talk Live, which I guess is what I'm getting at, but given that ITV Breakfast have done the same format under a different name, same presenters and a different shade of orange, you'd think they might look at the underline problem and try and do something different.
philoola
23-04-2014
Well I'll just repeat what I predicted about the last Daybreak relaunch and then sit back and watch the car crash happen again.

We'll get a week or so of a more 'newsy' programme with new faces.

Viewing figures will drop a bit.

Production team will panic and re-introduce Richard Arnold, Dr Hilary, Ross King, Dan Wooton, The horrific fashion guy, ads every 5 mins, £1.50 a call competitions and wall-to-wall ITV show cross promotions.
And then within 12 months, Reid will be gone and it will all start over.

It's just the same rubbish production team trying to tart up the same rubbish programme. This time with a 'star' who is already universally disliked.

Best of luck with that then!
Doghouse Riley
23-04-2014
Given the state of her blotchy looking shins, you'd have thought Susanna Reid would have put on some tights before posing for promotion photos in that yellow dress.

It would be enough to put many off their breakfast!
Ben_Hunt
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by philoola:
“Well I'll just repeat what I predicted about the last Daybreak relaunch and then sit back and watch the car crash happen again.

We'll get a week or so of a more 'newsy' programme with new faces.

Viewing figures will drop a bit.

Production team will panic and re-introduce Richard Arnold, Dr Hilary, Ross King, Dan Wooton, The horrific fashion guy, ads every 5 mins, £1.50 a call competitions and wall-to-wall ITV show cross promotions.
And then within 12 months, Reid will be gone and it will all start over.

It's just the same rubbish production team trying to tart up the same rubbish programme. This time with a 'star' who is already universally disliked.

Best of luck with that then!”

These guys are everything that is wrong with the show, or at least the majority. ITV seem to think the viewers have bonded with them when it reality we only know their names through various petitions on forums like these to remove them from television. Richard Arnold is just cringey and worst of all, he knows it and continues to act like he's the be all and end all of the television industry. Dan Wooton just radiates smugness, with his "OH I SCHMOOZED WITH A Z-LIST FOR A SECOND. TAKE A SELFIE." and Marc whatever his name is acting like he's invited to London Fashion Week when he never looks like he follows fashion anyway (he's looked identical for the past 10 years)

They need professionals, not personalities (or preferably pro's with personalities) instead they go for people they can shove on All Star Family Fortunes. The show needs to stop basing itself on people - Adrian Chiles, Susannah Reid, Christine Bleakley, Eamon & Fiona - and get back to what matters (the news!)
Kodaz
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Ben_Hunt:
“I figured given the name of [Good Morning Britain], it might be inspired by Good Morning America, of course owned by Disney who once had a share in GMTV.”

Well, I can believe that it's possible- if not probable- that the American show inspired the naming of TV-am's original (i.e. 80s/early-90s) "Good Morning Britain".

OTOH, this reuse of the name smacks more of ITV plc executives trying to exploit nostalgia for the TV-am show and/or a desire to replicate its ratings success...
shanders
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Ben_Hunt:
“These guys are everything that is wrong with the show, or at least the majority. ITV seem to think the viewers have bonded with them when it reality we only know their names through various petitions on forums like these to remove them from television. Richard Arnold is just cringey and worst of all, he knows it and continues to act like he's the be all and end all of the television industry. Dan Wooton just radiates smugness, with his "OH I SCHMOOZED WITH A Z-LIST FOR A SECOND. TAKE A SELFIE." and Marc whatever his name is acting like he's invited to London Fashion Week when he never looks like he follows fashion anyway (he's looked identical for the past 10)”

Mark Heyes? He looks like a meerkat in a blazer.
H of De Vil
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“If that's the kind of thing they think will help their ratings rise, theyre badly mistaken. Awful segments like the above are why Itv's breakfast show trails so far behind BBC's. You cant expect viewers to take a show seriously with segments like the above.”

The One Show

Of course if BBC Breakfast did this, it would be of high quality snoring.
Hollie_Louise
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“The One Show

Of course if BBC Breakfast did this, it would be of high quality snoring.”

Oh of course. It would be a groundbreaking part of the show.

But hey Samuel, at least the logo proves they aren't just focusing on the presentation lol
extraextra
24-04-2014
Olly Mann has just said on his LBC Radio Show, that he received a voicemail message to say that his services would no longer be required for the Lorraine part of GMB - as the newspaper review would not be a feature on her show. So I'm guessing it'll be all cooking/ Fashion and entertainment.
mugwuff
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by chunky_Monkey1:
“You guys criticising it are so judgemental
it has not even started yet. give it a chance”

itv dont help themselves, telling us its a new show. Its the same production team and most of the people on it are from daybreak.

Richard
Helen
Rav
Kate
Weather girl


Probably the horrific Ross King, all the reporters and commentators.

itv seem to think the only aspects of daybreak that were wrong was the name and Aled Jones. Wrong!
mugwuff
24-04-2014
Daybreak are running a story about a little girl who is upset because shops have sold out of a Disney dress from the film Frozen.

Dear God.
Westy2
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by philoola:
“Well I'll just repeat what I predicted about the last Daybreak relaunch and then sit back and watch the car crash happen again.

We'll get a week or so of a more 'newsy' programme with new faces.

Viewing figures will drop a bit.

Production team will panic and re-introduce Richard Arnold, Dr Hilary, Ross King, Dan Wooton, The horrific fashion guy, ads every 5 mins, £1.50 a call competitions and wall-to-wall ITV show cross promotions.
And then within 12 months, Reid will be gone and it will all start over.

It's just the same rubbish production team trying to tart up the same rubbish programme. This time with a 'star' who is already universally disliked.

Best of luck with that then!”

Dunno about universally disliked.

Annoying, I would have said.
mossy2103
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Paxman will be jealous.................

Is your partner's snoring driving you crazy?
Does he or she keep you awake all night? Does it affect your relationship and quality of life?

If so, please contact us and we might ask you to appear on TV on Monday 28th April.

http://www.itv.com/daybreak/is-your-...ving-you-crazy”

It's as if Daybreak has never gone away
ftv
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I'm pretty sure there have been items about snoring on BBC Breakfast before.

Do you actually watch BBC Breakfast, it isn't wall to wall hard news anymore, the content after 35 past is usually stuff that wouldn't make it into the running order on Look North.”

The BBC's huge resources mean Breakfast's news coverage is far superior to anything ITV can muster. I thought ITN had taken over the Daybreak news service but it doesn't show on the screen. It was crazy for ITV to have a separate news operation for the breakfast franchise in any case.
teeswolf
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by mugwuff:
“itv dont help themselves, telling us its a new show. Its the same production team and most of the people on it are from daybreak.

Richard
Helen
Rav
Kate
Weather girl


Probably the horrific Ross King, all the reporters and commentators.

itv seem to think the only aspects of daybreak that were wrong was the name and Aled Jones. Wrong!”

Where do Helen, Ranvir and Kate fit in? There are 2 teams of 2 presenters already, and Lorraine doing her show 5 days a week.

No complaints from me that Laura will still be doing the weather, she's one of the few good things about Daybreak!
mugwuff
24-04-2014
Oh god! Martin Lewis is still going to feature.
groovesection
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by philoola:
“Well I'll just repeat what I predicted about the last Daybreak relaunch and then sit back and watch the car crash happen again.

We'll get a week or so of a more 'newsy' programme with new faces.

Viewing figures will drop a bit.

Production team will panic and re-introduce Richard Arnold, Dr Hilary, Ross King, Dan Wooton, The horrific fashion guy, ads every 5 mins, £1.50 a call competitions and wall-to-wall ITV show cross promotions.
And then within 12 months, Reid will be gone and it will all start over.

It's just the same rubbish production team trying to tart up the same rubbish programme. This time with a 'star' who is already universally disliked.

Best of luck with that then!”

That is my opinion too,
Maybe Susanna will get a spin-off series on ITV when she is replaced in 6 months - "The rise and fall of Susanna Greed"
groovesection
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by Westy2:
“Dunno about universally disliked.

Annoying, I would have said.”

My OH absolutely loathes her, I had to listen to her moan about Susanna every Saturday night during SCD
mugwuff
25-04-2014
Theyll still be repeating items..so what's on 6-7 will then be done again 7-8.30.
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