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Old 03-05-2014, 21:26
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I havent got a breakdown on me. But Broadcast says:

Therefore for it to average 5.98million across the hour, it must've dropped quite sharply throughout - probably down to around 5m towards the end.

Either that or the Corrie viewers saw the first 5 minutes which was quite dramatic and didn't continue. We will see on Monday how it holds up.
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Old 03-05-2014, 21:28
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I to don't think he should be sacked, but he is an idiot. Everyone makes mistakes we're not all perfect. Although I agree with BBC that they should give him one last chance.
Certain people both within and outside the BBC want all their presenters to be as bland as possible. Maybe they should replace Clarkson with Matt Baker.
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Old 03-05-2014, 21:33
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To be fair Clarkson does seem to have the thoughlessness of about 10 men - but on this I completely agree - it was a non story.
Perhaps the main reason that such a non-story became the story that it was was because of the "Offended by Proxy" Brigade joining forces with the "Let's Get Clarkson" Army, having already recruited a number of "right on" PC liberals to the cause.

Add in some bandwagon-jumpers and some Pitchfork Army Reservists, and you have The Perfect Storm (where the facts get lost & distorted, where "did not say" becomes"said", where "was not broadcast" becomes "was broadcast", and where "was recited on a filmed piece that was not used" becomes "was recited in front of a studio audience").
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Old 03-05-2014, 21:34
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BGT was better tonight but will probably be down (holiday weekend). The 7.15pm start might take a bit off the decline I guess.

And just 7.03m total viewers, equivalent to 1.4m here on a crude population comparison. Even taking into account the fractured and highly-competitive TV landscape over there, it's dire. Didn't The X Factor bottom out at a 1.5 or thereabouts, shortly before it was axed by FOX?

Idol had a mere 5% share of 18-49s, compared with 8% and a 2.6 for Grey's Anatomy.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...d-down/259822/
I think X Factor did go lower, but not much and that was airing in the less viewed 8pm hour. The thing that stands out about that Idol rating is that it actually dropped from its lead-in.

I think AI has come to the end of its shelf life. It's been on for 13 years and people are tired of it. This sort of rating on a major network means curtains.
Maybe this could be an omen for the equivalent over here ,TXF, which is in a steady decline and maybe should go in 2016.
I think it will probably get another year, although the fact that there could be any doubt in that statement shows how bad a year it has been for them. Ultimately FOX can't lose 80 hours in one season and as badly as they have performed, XF and Idol were still above what FOX get most of the week!

I imagine they'll lose the Thursday results show altogether. And I have no idea what they'll do about judges. They can't afford J'Lo and Seacrest again, surely? But they can't really go back either - Abdul and Jackson only works if they can get Cowell to do it (and I doubt that will happen). I wonder if they'll get another new production team too?

If Idol was in a decline like X Factor then it would be fine. The problem is that X Factor UK fell by 3% last year, Idol is currently down nearly 40% for some episodes. And this is the third year in a row where there have been 30% falls.

For FOX and Fremantle this has been a nightmare year. FOX really desperately need some half decent numbers from Ramsay this summer and So You Think You Can Dance? And America's Got Talent is now Fremantle's biggest show and it's absolutely vital for them that it does well.

What happened? It's not that long ago that Idol was the biggest show on TV!
Initial interest in a post-Cowell Idol was short lived. X Factor arguably cost Idol some viewers as well (particularly as FOX ran them so close together). The Voice came along. They kept changing the judges. And I think with XF and The Voice on air, Idol just looked old. Internationally, that brand has been in decline since X Factor got a second wind of international sales in 2010/11 and The Voice came along.
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Old 03-05-2014, 21:36
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I don't think he should be sacked and I don't think he will be sacked. He's a buffoon. He hasn't been racist to anyone and he hasn't killed anyone. Some people found what he said offensive, but of course those same people have likely offended others in their lifetime - we all have offended and we all have been offended. If he was directing his comments at an individual then he should have been instantly dismissed. It's a "Gordon Brown bigotgate" scenario really. A storm in a teacup that will be forgotten by Friday!
To be honest Sachsgate was a non story or shoiuld have been been until the The Daily Fail whipped up the storm.

Clarkson has done so many dodgy things now, he is on thin ice.

He is a buffoon and I can think of a lot of other words, I don't think he should be sacked though.
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Old 03-05-2014, 21:38
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Perhaps the main reason that such a non-story became the story that it was was because of the "Offended by Proxy" Brigade joining forces with the "Let's Get Clarkson" Army, having already recruited a number of "right on" PC liberals to the cause.

Add in some bandwagon-jumpers and some Pitchfork Army Reservists, and you have The Perfect Storm (where the facts get lost & distorted, where "did not say" becomes"said", where "was not broadcast" becomes "was broadcast", and where "was recited on a filmed piece that was not used" becomes "was recited in front of a studio audience").
If he said something offensive to the Daily Mail the press furore would be 20 times worse.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:26
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The Metro is reporting that Graham Norton is the No1 choice of BBC bosses for Strictly, however he is insistent that he is too lazy to do it.
Nah - its obvious - they need Jeremy Clarkson!!
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:27
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Perhaps the main reason that such a non-story became the story that it was was because of the "Offended by Proxy" Brigade joining forces with the "Let's Get Clarkson" Army, having already recruited a number of "right on" PC liberals to the cause.

Add in some bandwagon-jumpers and some Pitchfork Army Reservists, and you have The Perfect Storm (where the facts get lost & distorted, where "did not say" becomes"said", where "was not broadcast" becomes "was broadcast", and where "was recited on a filmed piece that was not used" becomes "was recited in front of a studio audience").
Very good. :
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:28
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Mark Selby wins his superb snooker semi-final match at 10.26pm, so after interviews the snooker will finish about an hour late on BBC2.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:31
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Certain people both within and outside the BBC want all their presenters to be as bland as possible. Maybe they should replace Clarkson with Matt Baker.
Well they have got shot of Paxman so maybe the purge is on.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:38
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I see GMB arrival a bit like a boat being launched in the water; The boat is launched, the water is displaced fluctuating to start with, but then settling. I can see GMB eventually settling (if they make small changes to improve it) to around 800k.
The Titanic springs to mind...
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:38
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Mark Selby wins his superb snooker semi-final match at 10.26pm, so after interviews the snooker will finish about an hour late on BBC2.
Just in time for Match of the Day.

I assume the 4.30pm slot on BBC2 was replaced by something (presumably Coast or Escape to the Country). Not sure how long they stuck with the scheduled snooker slot on BBC1 this afternoon - did they go to Final Score early?
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:38
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The Metro is reporting that Graham Norton is the No1 choice of BBC bosses for Strictly, however he is insistent that he is too lazy to do it.
I fully back the campaign for Graham Norton to host Strictly!
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:42
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I fully back the campaign for Graham Norton to host Strictly!
Yes because there will be so much chemistry between him and Tess.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:42
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Nah - its obvious - they need Jeremy Clarkson!!
WIth random eliminations.

"Eeny, meeny, miny, moe..."

The BBC can't surely on one hand give someone a final warning for (not) using a racist term and then make what would look to be a sexist decision for their biggest show.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:44
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Yes because there will be so much chemistry between him and Tess.
You need at least one person there that is funny, quick witted and can bring an extra dash of star quality to the show.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:52
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Graham and Tess could work, actually. Obviously no sexual chemistry but was there any with Brucie? They would be a good giggle, I feel. Graham and Claudia, even more so.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:55
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The Sunday people updating an hour ago. They seem to think its Claudia who has been given the job.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:56
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You need at least one person there that is funny, quick witted and can bring an extra dash of star quality to the show.
... but that's enough about Tess.

Graham and Claudia would work very well, but for some reason I just can't see it with Tess - and I don't think these sort of shows are the best use of Graham's talents. Realistically though if they don't want to go with Claudia Graham Norton is pretty much their only option from within the BBC.
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Old 03-05-2014, 22:59
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Graham and Tess could work, actually. Obviously no sexual chemistry but was there any with Brucie? They would be a good giggle, I feel. Graham and Claudia, even more so.
Graham and Claudia is who I've wanted for ages, can't see it happening though. Tess isn't going anywhere. People don't need to be attracted to each other to have chemistry, the only reason Tess and Graham wouldn't have any because she's quite wooden and relies heavily on a script.

It'll be Claudia and Tess though if she wants to do it, trouble is Tess hasn't been that great in the Bruce role, competent but not great, but they can't put Claudia in the main role without putting Tess out.
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Old 03-05-2014, 23:02
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Graham and Tess could work, actually. Obviously no sexual chemistry but was there any with Brucie? They would be a good giggle, I feel. Graham and Claudia, even more so.
Was there ever much chemistry with Bruce and Teas apart from him holding her leg when they get introduced and "KEEEEEEP DANCING!" at the end? They spend most of the show apart.

I think Norton could add a more fun to Strictly.
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Old 03-05-2014, 23:04
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The Sunday people updating an hour ago. They seem to think its Claudia who has been given the job.
Not surprised if it is Claudia. But Tess as main presenter on a light entertainment show! That's a decision that would be made by people with no idea about light entertainment.
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Old 03-05-2014, 23:12
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I don't this Claudia is the right choice. I know shes don it before, but she ever so slightly irritating. Attractive, but slightly annoying. She is on the Sewing Bee anyhow.

I think Alan Carr would bring a great sense of fun to Strictly, and laughter.
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Old 03-05-2014, 23:14
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According to the provisionals somebody at ITV obviously loves the Americans as despite repeating Prey this week and next, the following week The Americans is scheduled at 9.30pm (BGT at 7.30, Greys at 8.30) to allow them to get the FA Cup highlights at 10.45pm. No sign of the repeat of Prey being scheduled elsewhere.

Considering how The Americans rates if the FA Cup bumps it's slot surely The Americans should go later, not earlier! Even 11.45pm is probably too good for it!
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Old 03-05-2014, 23:14
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Would love Claudia to do the main gig, but she might be a safe bet. Eccentric, but established.

As long as the co-presenter isn't Vernon Kay, I'm fine with it.
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