The Ratings Thread (Part 59)

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Ivor Fanny

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“I think the soaps will be very low today - Emmerdale in the high 5s with Corrie and EastEnders in the low 7s.

I think Prey and Bear Grylls will be fine though. The weather will only impact shows on before 9pm.”

its freezing up north!

yorkie100

05-05-2014

As far as the soaps go it will be the shares which are more important tonight. I think Prey might drop a liitle as well.

yorkie100

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by Ivor Fanny:
“its freezing up north!”

Ha ha !! Yes its not exactly Mediterranean weather where I am either - still a bank holiday though.

cylon6

05-05-2014

Any ratings for In The Flesh yet?

Steve Williams

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by C14E:
“Pretty easily I'd have thought. Double bills on Sundays. Or better still, Sundays at 8pm and Mondays at 9pm (Mondays are a day off for the RWC). There's no rule that says XF has to be on Saturdays or not on at all. So long as they're consistent with how they do it then it might actually work out quite well.”

Of course in 2007 the quarter-finals, semi-finals and final of the Rugby World Cup all had Saturday 8pm kick-offs (the first two had Sunday 8pm kick-offs as well). In the first week it was judges' houses on The X Factor and that was at 6.45 on both Saturday and Sunday (and Takeaway was at the ludicrous time of 5.30), the following week it wasn't on at all (and Takeaway, the last in the series, was at 6.30) and for the final, it was the first live show which ran 5.45-7.45 and then the results were at 10pm. Obviously those were the days when they happily ran The X Factor opposite Strictly, before they pretended they didn't a few years later.

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“I'm pretty sure that, regardless of ownership, as ITV Breakfast Broadcasting Ltd holds the separate "National Breakfast-time" licence the condition is that they have to supply programming strictly from 06:00-09:25 every day. This would explain why the traditional but rather odd timing has persisted since 2009 when ITV took full ownership.”

Presumably, though at some point there has to be compromises if it starts to affect the value of the schedule. It's certainly not in STV and UTV's interests to mess around and be difficult if it irritates viewers or means the schedule doesn't work. When they launched Sixty Minutes on the Beeb in 1983 they were limited in terms of scheduling because the regions insisted the regional news went out at 6pm, as it was the "best" slot, so they had to shuffle everything around in an illogical fashion, and the ratings plummeted to the extent that the Beeb had to tell the regions that for their own sakes they had to go at 6.30, because it didn't matter what the "best" slot was if nobody was watching at all.

For many years there was a programme that broke out of the breakfast franchise, The Disney Club used to begin during GMTV at 8am and then continue until after ten o'clock. There was an ad break at 9.25 where it swapped from GMTV to ITV (with the familiar judder on screen as they switched from one to the other) but as far as viewers were concerned it was a single seamless programme on ITV. Of course, that was helped massively by the fact it was an STV production in association with Disney and STV and Disney were both shareholders in GMTV.

It reminds me of when they had the F1 and when there were races at breakfast time which meant interrupting GMTV, GMTV would claim the time back in the following weeks and run on until ten or eleven o'clock some Sundays. But I dunno what viewers made of it, pretty sure 99% assume TVam. GMTV, Daybreak and Good Morning Britain are all just programmes on ITV.

You'll note the entire Good Morning Britain team were all present and correct this morning, which I'm guessing will be the only time that happens on a Bank Holiday.

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“I have to agree; it's a shocking excuse for a Bank Holiday centrepiece. There isn't even a charity-related or any other kind of hook to it: just Corden following Barlow around and chatting about the latter's life.

Is there anyone in the country who actually likes both of these fellows? It's doubtful.

Robbie would be apoplectic at BBC bosses if he were here.”

I don't think it's that bad, James Corden is a very popular figure. I know he can be best in small doses but I think most people generally like him. Same with Gary Barlow, he's sold absolutely tons of records. I think it's absolutely suitable for Bank Holiday programming and I think it'll do perfectly alright, for what it is. Certainly more appealing than when the Beeb showed Jonathan Ross interviewing Barbra Stresisand at 9pm the other year.

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Just going back to Perspectives last week, and this also relates to Steve's point about keeping the news in roughly the normal slot at weekends. I think it would have been better airing it at 22:20 after the news, rather than pushing the news back to 23:00. That 5.8m rating for the BBC 22:00 news seemed very high and it may have been partly because people didn't want to wait until 23:00 to get the news.”

I think Perspectives absolutely should be later, it's all very commendable putting it out at ten o'clock but it's clear it's totally unsuitable for that slot. Not even The South Bank Show used to go out that early, even when ITV was home to far more serious programming and there was far less competition, in the eighties and nineties it was almost always after 10.30 unless the subject was extremely populist. Certainly modern art isn't suitable for ten o'clock. The forthcoming episode on Sammy Davis Jr with Brucie might just about be suitable for that slot, the others so far definitely haven't been. I think the news would do a lot better there, especially after a two hour drama which can skew upmarket, it would seem an obvious lead-in.

What baffles me about Perspectives is that Melvyn Bragg said he stopped doing The South Bank Show on ITV because they told him they could no longer afford it, but this replacement series surely has a similar budget (as the presenters are all fairly big names and they're clearly aiming for very high standards) and is in an even better slot than The South Bank Show ever had. I know there are fewer episodes, but surely it's not that different. Presumably they just really wanted to get rid of Melvyn.

D.M.N.

05-05-2014

Off Their Rockers - Consolidated Ratings (inc +1) - all 19:30 start time
Series 1 (2013)
07/04 - 5.56m (23.0%)
14/04 - 6.15m (24.9%)
21/04 - 5.68m (22.8%)
28/04 - 5.38m (22.8%)
05/05 - 4.16m (20.1%)
12/05 - 4.79m (19.0%)

Series 2 (2014)
06/04 - 4.78m (20.2%)
13/04 - 4.44m (20.0%)
20/04 - 4.04m (17.5%)
27/04 - 4.01m (18.1%)

Aside from the Bank Holiday weekend episode last year, this is an unusual case of a series peaking early and failing to recover.

D.M.N.

05-05-2014

Catchphrase - Consolidated Ratings (inc +1)
Series 1 (2013)
07/04 - 5.51m (25.2%)
14/04 - 6.18m (27.6%)
21/04 - 5.71m (25.9%)
28/04 - 5.10m (23.4%)
05/05 - 4.08m (22.1%)
12/05 - 4.67m (19.7%)

Series 2 (2014)
06/04 - 4.28m (20.1%)
13/04 - 4.03m (20.5%)
20/04 - 3.69m (17.7%)
27/04 - 4.04m (20.2%)

Only including episodes that led into Off Their Rockers

BROXI BEAR

05-05-2014

Any In The Flesh ratings?

cylon6

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Off Their Rockers - Consolidated Ratings (inc +1) - all 19:30 start time
Series 1 (2013)
07/04 - 5.56m (23.0%)
14/04 - 6.15m (24.9%)
21/04 - 5.68m (22.8%)
28/04 - 5.38m (22.8%)
05/05 - 4.16m (20.1%)
12/05 - 4.79m (19.0%)

Series 2 (2014)
06/04 - 4.78m (20.2%)
13/04 - 4.44m (20.0%)
20/04 - 4.04m (17.5%)
27/04 - 4.01m (18.1%)

Aside from the Bank Holiday weekend episode last year, this is an unusual case of a series peaking early and failing to recover.”

Looks like Off Their Rockers peaked in 2013.

lewiep93

05-05-2014

Apologies if this causes a meltdown but I've dug up the official ratings for each Eurovision final since 1990 (I have earlier figures if anyone wants me to post them) with the year's winner and the UK's entry and points.

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Date	     Rating	Winner	     UK Placing & Points    UK Song & Artist
05/05/1990   10.19m	Italy	     6th (87 points)	    Give a Little Love Back to the World - Emma
04/05/1991   10.20m	Sweden	     10th (63 points)	    A Message to Your Heart - Samantha Janus
09/05/1992   11.37m	Ireland	     2nd (139 points)	    One Step out of Time - Michael Ball
15/05/1993   10.37m	Ireland	     2nd (164 points)	    Better the Devil You Know - Sonia
30/04/1994   8.30m	Ireland	     10th (63 points)	    Lonely Symphony (We Will Be Free) - Frances Ruffelle
13/05/1995   10.89m	Norway	     10th (76 points)	    Love City Groove - Love City Groove
18/05/1996   10.23m	Ireland	     8th (77 points)	    Ooh Aah... Just a Little Bit - Gina G
03/05/1997   8.51m	UK           1st (227 points)	    Love Shine a Light - Katrina and the Waves
09/05/1998   9.62m	Israel	     2nd (166 points)	    Where Are You? - Imaani
29/05/1999   8.91m	Sweden	     12th (38 points)	    Say It Again - Precious
13/05/2000   6.54m	Denmark	     16th (28 points)	    Don’t Play That Song Again - Nicki French
12/05/2001   6.98m	Estonia	     15th (28 points)	    No Dream Impossible - Lindsay
25/05/2002   7.81m	Latvia	     3rd (111 points)	    Come Back - Jessica Garlick
24/05/2003   7.94m	Turkey	     26th (0 points)	    Cry Baby - Javine
15/05/2004   8.38m	Ukraine	     16th (29 points)	    Hold On to Our Love - James Fox
21/05/2005   7.97m	Greece	     22nd (18 points)	    Touch My Fire - Javine Hylton
20/05/2006   8.33m	Finland	     19th (25 points)	    Teenage Life - Daz Sampson
12/05/2007   8.77m	Serbia	     22nd (19 points)	    Flying the Flag (For You) - Scooch
24/05/2008   7.15m	Russia	     25th (14 points)	    Even If - Andy Abraham
16/05/2009   8.03m	Norway	     5th (173 points)	    It’s My Time - Jade Ewen
29/05/2010   5.84m	Germany	     25th (10 points)	    That Sounds Good to Me - Josh Dubovie
14/05/2011   9.68m	Azerbaijan   11th (100 points)	    I Can - Blue
26/05/2012   7.59m	Sweden	     25th (12 points)	    Love Will Set You Free - Englebert Humperdinck
18/05/2013   7.83m	Denmark	     19th (23 points)	    Believe in Me - Bonnie Tyler
10/05/2014                                                  Children of the Universe - Molly

So what does this tell us? If we send a good song (look at 2002, 2009 and 2011) then we will do well. Simple. The rest of Europe know a good song when they hear it. Englebert, Bonnie Tyler and Josh Dubovie were dreadful choices for Eurovision and this was reflected in the scores. Moreover (this feels like a uni essay), there is a 50% judges vote and then a 50% televote.

I see that Samuel has been posting in the Eurovision thread/forum saying how Europe hates us. I thought Samuel would be all for Eurovision as delivers in the ratings and its on the BBC. I'm reiterating that the rest of Europe clearly know a good song when the hear it. I'm predicting a top 10 placing for the UK this year. I feel this year will be very successful!

And rant over!

Cestrian18

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Apologies if this causes a meltdown but I've dug up the official ratings for each Eurovision final since 1990 (I have earlier figures if anyone wants me to post them) with the year's winner and the UK's entry and points.

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Date Rating Winner UK Placing & Points UK Song & Artist 05/05/1990 10.19m Italy 6th (87 points) Give a Little Love Back to the World - Emma 04/05/1991 10.20m Sweden 10th (63 points) A Message to Your Heart - Samantha Janus 09/05/1992 11.37m Ireland 2nd (139 points) One Step out of Time - Michael Ball 15/05/1993 10.37m Ireland 2nd (164 points) Better the Devil You Know - Sonia 30/04/1994 8.30m Ireland 10th (63 points) Lonely Symphony (We Will Be Free) - Frances Ruffelle 13/05/1995 10.89m Norway 10th (76 points) Love City Groove - Love City Groove 18/05/1996 10.23m Ireland 8th (77 points) Ooh Aah... Just a Little Bit - Gina G 03/05/1997 8.51m UK 1st (227 points) Love Shine a Light - Katrina and the Waves 09/05/1998 9.62m Israel 2nd (166 points) Where Are You? - Imaani 29/05/1999 8.91m Sweden 12th (38 points) Say It Again - Precious 13/05/2000 6.54m Denmark 16th (28 points) Don’t Play That Song Again - Nicki French 12/05/2001 6.98m Estonia 15th (28 points) No Dream Impossible - Lindsay 25/05/2002 7.81m Latvia 3rd (111 points) Come Back - Jessica Garlick 24/05/2003 7.94m Turkey 26th (0 points) Cry Baby - Javine 15/05/2004 8.38m Ukraine 16th (29 points) Hold On to Our Love - James Fox 21/05/2005 7.97m Greece 22nd (18 points) Touch My Fire - Javine Hylton 20/05/2006 8.33m Finland 19th (25 points) Teenage Life - Daz Sampson 12/05/2007 8.77m Serbia 22nd (19 points) Flying the Flag (For You) - Scooch 24/05/2008 7.15m Russia 25th (14 points) Even If - Andy Abraham 16/05/2009 8.03m Norway 5th (173 points) It’s My Time - Jade Ewen 29/05/2010 5.84m Germany 25th (10 points) That Sounds Good to Me - Josh Dubovie 14/05/2011 9.68m Azerbaijan 11th (100 points) I Can - Blue 26/05/2012 7.59m Sweden 25th (12 points) Love Will Set You Free - Englebert Humperdinck 18/05/2013 7.83m Denmark 19th (23 points) Believe in Me - Bonnie Tyler 10/05/2014 Children of the Universe - Molly

So what does this tell us? If we send a good song (look at 2002, 2009 and 2011) then we will do well. Simple. The rest of Europe know a good song when they hear it. Englebert, Bonnie Tyler and Josh Dubovie were dreadful choices for Eurovision and this was reflected in the scores. Moreover (this feels like a uni essay), there is a 50% judges vote and then a 50% televote.

I see that Samuel has been posting in the Eurovision thread/forum saying how Europe hates us. I thought Samuel would be all for Eurovision as delivers in the ratings and its on the BBC. I'm reiterating that the rest of Europe clearly know a good song when the hear it. I'm predicting a top 10 placing for the UK this year. I feel this year will be very successful!

And rant over! ”

Thanks Lewis, that's really interesting

It's also pretty stable as a contest too, don't know what happened to Josh's year but its steadily around 8 million which for a four hour contest is pretty good

I have a feeling the voting might peak pretty high this year, there is a huge chance we might win, and if we did not only would it shut up the 'Europe hates us' brigade but have a home contest peak as well

Glenn A

05-05-2014

Hey, Lewpie, excellent ratings facts there, my first Eurovision was in 1977 when Lynsey de Paul was narrowly beaten by the French. In those days it would get 16 million viewers and the entrant was heavily promoted on TOTP. Actually Rock Bottom got to number 19 here, but ironically was a bigger hit in France.

curmy

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by C14E:
“Britain's Got More Talent's 1.22m on Saturday night (exc +1) is brilliant, that seems to be having a really good run this year. Up from 925,000 for the equivalent show last year. Probably helped by the fact that nobody is hanging around to watch Amazing Grey's or The Voice. Much needed for itv2 at the moment.

I've got 3.32m (19.0%) + 0.19m (0.9%)

Held up a lot better last night than a lot of shows, but this series has generally been disappointing.

1.17m (5.0%) exc +1

0.89m (4.0%) exc +1”

Thanks very much .for the cars programme ratings

yorkie100

05-05-2014

Thanks for those lewiep93 and I for one would be interested in the earlier figures too.
I do agree to an extent about song choice and we have sent some stinkers but looking at some of those that did well I would have to say they are not great either.
Think we really need to see what happens on saturday because if we dont do well a lot of people on here are going to have some explaining to do.

BROXI BEAR

05-05-2014

Poor Javine is getting the blame for that Cry Baby nil points

Jemini will be glad

IJoinedInMay

05-05-2014

I genuinely liked Scooch's entry for us a few years ago. It was fun, which is apparently what Eurovision is all about. If we have to resort to unmemorable ballads to win (I'm not suggesting this is the case with our entry this year; I've not even heard that song yet), then I'm happy to stay near the bottom of the pack TBH.

The last Eurovision winner that I remember fondly was that Finnish rock band (Lordi?) and I think that was 10 or so years ago now (EDIT: 8 years). I certainly wouldn't call the winners since "good songs" and that has nothing to do with the fact they weren't sung by the UK entrant.

NeilVW

05-05-2014

Thanks Lewie, I'd like to see the earlier ones too please.

Surprised 1997 (when we won) didn't rate higher, and also the following year when we hosted didn't get a massive boost really. I remember that one well, Wogan hosted (who with?) in Birmingham and the BBC put on a great show.

IJoinedInMay

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Thanks for those lewiep93 and I for one would be interested in the earlier figures too.
I do agree to an extent about song choice and we have sent some stinkers but looking at some of those that did well I would have to say they are not great either.
Think we really need to see what happens on saturday because if we dont do well a lot of people on here are going to have some explaining to do.”

It's like the Lucy Beale murder all over again (although the EE fans, so far, need to explain nothing!).

burbe

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by IJoinedInMay:
“I genuinely liked Scooch's entry for us a few years ago. It was fun, which is apparently what Eurovision is all about. If we have to resort to unmemorable ballads to win (I'm not suggesting this is the case with our entry this year; I've not even heard that song yet), then I'm happy to stay near the bottom of the pack TBH.

The last Eurovision winner that I remember fondly was that Finnish rock band (Lordi?) and I think that was 10 or so years ago now (EDIT: 8 years). I certainly wouldn't call the winners since "good songs" and that has nothing to do with the fact they weren't sung by the UK entrant.”

There you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFqYbibLh8k

I do think this year the song stands out against the other entries. Others have gone for either dance or power ballad. UK is the only mid-tempo entry I've heard so far. Plus, it's got a very good message behind the song. It's not like the other love, party, baking cakes themed songs.

Glenn A

05-05-2014

It might be so huge now, but 7-8 million people still like Eurovision and it has a huge gay and kitsch following.

IJoinedInMay

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by burbe:
“There you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFqYbibLh8k

I do think this year the song stands out against the other entries. Others have gone for either dance or power ballad. UK is the only mid-tempo entry I've heard so far. Plus, it's got a very good message behind the song. It's not like the other love, party, baking cakes themed songs.”

Thanks for the link.

It's alright. It's probably better to reserve judgement until I've heard it alongside all the other entries but it's no Scooch!

lewiep93

05-05-2014

Here we are, the ratings I have go back to 1963 (taken from Television's Greatest Hits)

I have no ratings for 1964, 1966, 1987 and 1988 sadly.

Updated the chart to combine the post 1990 ratings

50 years of Eurovision ratings

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Date	     Rating	Winner	      UK Placing & Points    Song & Artist
20/03/1963   13.20m	Denmark	      4th (28 points)	     Say Wonderful Things - Ronnie Carroll
21/03/1964		Italy	      2nd (17 points)	     I Love the Little Things - Matt Monro
20/03/1965   12.32m	Luxembourg    2nd (26 points)	     I Belong - Kathy Kirby
05/03/1966		Austria	      9th (8 points)	     A Man Without Love - Kenneth McKellar
06/04/1967   19.58m	UK	      1st (47 points)	     Puppet on a String - Sandie Shaw
06/04/1968   20.90m	Spain	      2nd (28 points)	     Congratulations - Cliff Richard
29/03/1969   17.60m	UK*	      1st (18 points)	     Boom Bang-a-Bang - Lulu
21/03/1970   20.24m	Ireland	      2nd (26 points)	     Knock, Knock Who’s There? - Mary Hopkin
09/04/1971   18.70m	Monaco	      4th (98 points)	     Jack in the Box - Clodagh Rogers
25/03/1972   20.02m	Luxembourg    2nd (114 points)	     Beg, Steal or Borrow - The New Seekers
07/04/1973   21.56m	Luxembourg    3rd (123 points)	     Power to All Our Friends - Cliff Richard
06/04/1974   18.04m	Sweden	      4th (14 points)	     Long Live Love - Olivia Newton-John
22/03/1975   17.60m	Netherlands   2nd (138 points)	     Let Me Be the One - The Shadows
03/04/1976   18.92m	UK	      1st (164 points)	     Save Your Kisses for Me - Brotherhood of Man
07/05/1977   20.02m	France	      2nd (121 points)	     Rock Bottom - Lynsey de Paul & Mike Moran
22/04/1978   15.10m	Israel	      11th (61 points)	     The Bad Old Days - Co-Co
31/03/1979   15.40m	Israel	      7th (73 points)	     Mary Ann - Black Lace
19/04/1980   14.10m	Ireland	      3rd (106 points)	     Love Enough for Two - Prima Donna
04/04/1981   15.30m	UK	      1st (136 points)	     Making Your Mind Up - Bucks Fizz	
24/04/1982   14.50m	Germany	      7th (76 points)	     One Step Further - Bardo
23/04/1983   12.50m	Luxembourg    6th (79 points)	     I’m Never Giving Up - Sweet Dreams
05/05/1984   9.80m	Sweden	      7th (63 points)	     Love Games - Belle and the Devotions
04/05/1985   13.85m	Norway	      4th (100 points)	     Love Is - Vikki Watson
03/05/1986   9.80m	Belgium	      7th (72 points)	     Runner in the Night - Ryder
09/05/1987		Ireland	      13th (47 points)	     Only the Light - Rikki
30/04/1988		Switzerland   2nd (136 points)	     Go - Scott Fitzgerald
06/05/1989   9.55m	Yugoslavia    2nd (130 points)	     Why Do I Always Get it Wrong? - Live Report
05/05/1990   10.19m	Italy	      6th (87 points)	     Give a Little Love Back to the World - Emma
04/05/1991   10.20m	Sweden	      10th (63 points)	     A Message to Your Heart - Samantha Janus
09/05/1992   11.37m	Ireland	      2nd (139 points)	     One Step out of Time - Michael Ball
15/05/1993   10.37m	Ireland	      2nd (164 points)	     Better the Devil You Know - Sonia
30/04/1994   8.30m	Ireland	      10th (63 points)	     Lonely Symphony (We Will Be Free) - Frances Ruffelle
13/05/1995   10.89m	Norway	      10th (76 points)	     Love City Groove - Love City Groove
18/05/1996   10.23m	Ireland	      8th (77 points)	     Ooh Aah... Just a Little Bit - Gina G
03/05/1997   8.51m	UK            1st (227 points)	     Love Shine a Light - Katrina and the Waves
09/05/1998   9.62m	Israel	      2nd (166 points)	     Where Are You? - Imaani
29/05/1999   8.91m	Sweden	      12th (38 points)	     Say It Again - Precious
13/05/2000   6.54m	Denmark	      16th (28 points)	     Don’t Play That Song Again - Nicki French
12/05/2001   6.98m	Estonia	      15th (28 points)	     No Dream Impossible - Lindsay
25/05/2002   7.81m	Latvia	      3rd (111 points)	     Come Back - Jessica Garlick
24/05/2003   7.94m	Turkey	      26th (0 points)	     Cry Baby - Javine
15/05/2004   8.38m	Ukraine	      16th (29 points)	     Hold On to Our Love - James Fox
21/05/2005   7.97m	Greece	      22nd (18 points)	     Touch My Fire - Javine Hylton
20/05/2006   8.33m	Finland	      19th (25 points)	     Teenage Life - Daz Sampson
12/05/2007   8.77m	Serbia	      22nd (19 points)	     Flying the Flag (For You) - Scooch
24/05/2008   7.15m	Russia	      25th (14 points)	     Even If - Andy Abraham
16/05/2009   8.03m	Norway	      5th (173 points)	     It’s My Time - Jade Ewen
29/05/2010   5.84m	Germany	      25th (10 points)	     That Sounds Good to Me - Josh Dubovie
14/05/2011   9.68m	Azerbaijan    11th (100 points)	     I Can - Blue
26/05/2012   7.59m	Sweden	      25th (12 points)	     Love Will Set You Free - Englebert Humperdinck
18/05/2013   7.83m	Denmark	      19th (23 points)	     Believe in Me - Bonnie Tyler

* Four way tie between UK, Spain, France and Netherlands.

Dancc

05-05-2014

Even in the incredibly unlikely event that we win, is it going to make a jot of difference to the ratings anyway? The above list would suggest no and 1997 was a bit of a disaster relatively speaking.

I doubt it'll do more than the usual 8M or so and wouldn't be surprised if it was less, as nobody outside of Eurovision circles knows much about the artist we're sending.

hyperstarsponge

05-05-2014

If the Snooker finishes early, That means Hinterland on BBC4 and Vera on ITV could get a nice boost.

Glenn A

05-05-2014

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Here we are, the ratings I have go back to 1963 (taken from Television's Greatest Hits) I have no ratings for 1964, 1966, 1987 and 1988 sadly.

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Date Rating Winner UK Placing & Points Song & Artist 20/03/1963 13.20m Denmark 4th (28 points) Say Wonderful Things - Ronnie Carroll 21/03/1964 Italy 2nd (17 points) I Love the Little Things - Matt Monro 20/03/1965 12.32m Luxembourg 2nd (26 points) I Belong - Kathy Kirby 05/03/1966 Austria 9th (8 points) A Man Without Love - Kenneth McKellar 06/04/1967 19.58m UK 1st (47 points) Puppet on a String - Sandie Shaw 06/04/1968 20.90m Spain 2nd (28 points) Congratulations - Cliff Richard 29/03/1969 17.60m UK* 1st (18 points) Boom Bang-a-Bang - Lulu 21/03/1970 20.24m Ireland 2nd (26 points) Knock, Knock Who’s There? - Mary Hopkin 09/04/1971 18.70m Monaco 4th (98 points) Jack in the Box - Clodagh Rogers 25/03/1972 20.02m Luxembourg 2nd (114 points) Beg, Steal or Borrow - The New Seekers 07/04/1973 21.56m Luxembourg 3rd (123 points) Power to All Our Friends - Cliff Richard 06/04/1974 18.04m Sweden 4th (14 points) Long Live Love - Olivia Newton-John 22/03/1975 17.60m Netherlands 2nd (138 points) Let Me Be the One - The Shadows 03/04/1976 18.92m UK 1st (164 points) Save Your Kisses for Me - Brotherhood of Man 07/05/1977 20.02m France 2nd (121 points) Rock Bottom - Lynsey de Paul & Mike Moran 22/04/1978 15.10m Israel 11th (61 points) The Bad Old Days - Co-Co 31/03/1979 15.40m Israel 7th (73 points) Mary Ann - Black Lace 19/04/1980 14.10m Ireland 3rd (106 points) Love Enough for Two - Prima Donna 04/04/1981 15.30m UK 1st (136 points) Making Your Mind Up - Bucks Fizz 24/04/1982 14.50m Germany 7th (76 points) One Step Further - Bardo 23/04/1983 12.50m Luxembourg 6th (79 points) I’m Never Giving Up - Sweet Dreams 05/05/1984 9.80m Sweden 7th (63 points) Love Games - Belle and the Devotions 04/05/1985 13.85m Norway 4th (100 points) Love Is - Vikki Watson 03/05/1986 9.80m Belgium 7th (72 points) Runner in the Night - Ryder 09/05/1987 Ireland 13th (47 points) Only the Light - Rikki 30/04/1988 Switzerland 2nd (136 points) Go - Scott Fitzgerald 06/05/1989 9.55m Yugoslavia 2nd (130 points) Why Do I Always Get it Wrong? - Live Report

* Four way tie between UK, Spain, France and Netherlands.”

So my first Eurovision in 1977 got 20 million. It does seem, though, by the mid eighties that interest was waning and I'm not surprised it fell below 10 million for the first time in 1984 as the entry was dreadful. ( One character at school likened Belle and the Devotions to looking like ladies of the night). My favourite has to be 1977 and 1981.

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