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Old 18-04-2014, 14:49
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You miss the point completely - and yet at the same time prove it.
He's good at that.

If the aftermath doesn't get 8 million on Monday then the campaign will be deemed failure next week is make or break.
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Old 18-04-2014, 14:52
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MasterChef climbed in the ratings on Thursday evening, according to overnight data.

The BBC One cooking series was seen by 4.6m (21.9%) at 8pm, up 300,000 from last week.

Later, new series Parking Mad brought in 4.3m (20.6%) at 9pm. A repeat of BBC Three documentary Life and Death Row appealed to 1.9m (15.5%).

On BBC Two, Great British Menu attracted 1.9m (9.8%) at 7.30pm, followed by Digby Jones: The New Troubleshooter with 869k (4.1%) at 8pm and Protecting Our Parents at 9pm with 749k (3.6%).

ITV's Ade at Sea interested 2.6m (12.5%) at 8.30pm (155k/0.7% on +1), followed by Walton Sextuplets at 30 with 2.9m (14.1%) at 9pm (235k/1.4%).

On Channel 4, Posh Pawn intrigued 1.4m (6.8%) at 8pm (215k/1.0%). 15,000 Kids and Counting brought in 925k (4.4%) at 9pm (210k/1.3%), while 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown amused 1.10m (6.8%) at 10pm (151k/1.6%).

Channel 5's Beware Cowboy Builders was seen by 702k (3.3%) at 8pm, while Driven to Kill: Harold Shipman gathered 897k (4.3%) at 9pm (116k/0.7%). Person of Interest thrilled 707k (4.2%) at 10pm.

On E4, The Big Bang Theory amused 1.10m (5.2%) at 8pm (380k/1.8%), followed by How I Met Your Mother with 636k (3.0%) at 8.30pm (232k/1.1%).

ITV2's Tom Daley Goes Global entertained 285k (1.4%) at 9pm (122k/0.7%), while Celebrity Juice quizzed 949k (5.5%) at 10pm (306k/3.0%).
These articles get worse. Who picks the shows they report? Surely the launch of the next batch of 2 Broke Girls to E4 is worthy of note? Why stop with the 8pm hour of a two hour comedy block? Bizarre.
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Old 18-04-2014, 15:05
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If the aftermath doesn't get 8 million on Monday then the campaign will be deemed failure next week is make or break.
Without wanting to enter an argument, are you typing that simply because the chances of EastEnders getting 8m on Monday are slim and that you want it to fail, according to your terms? I am an EastEnders fan but, given how the overnights have been of late, I'd hazard a guess at 7.5m at most. There is, after all Premiership football on Sky kicking off at that time. Then we have Champions League on Tuesday which will further dent EastEnders. That disappoints me as a fan of EastEnders but it's realistic. EastEnders isn't doing spectacularly ratings-wise but neither is it performing particularly badly.

I just don't understand this constant need to batter EastEnders; I'm no fan of Coronation Street but I won't post vitriol about it at every opportunity. The point is next week's EastEnders looks great and if the episodes rate well, that's great for the BBC; if we continue to chug along at 6-7m, that's OK - not brilliant but not the end of the world. It's a storyline that will gather momentum over time.
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Old 18-04-2014, 15:06
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This is Tess Daly not Cilla in her prime you're talking about. She will have zero say. Who the hell would miss her? It's not as if she lots of alternative work.
Tess is part of the show, changing both lead presenters at the same time is a massive risk, you need some continuity, yes she might not be A list but like Bruce she has been SCD since the start, bar a gap in the second rushed in series where she was having a baby.

I cannot see the BBC wanting to risk loosing viewers with two leads going, so she us in a strong position. The audience that watches SCD loves the show and if it ant broke don't fix it , you already have a risk on what celebrities they get and if people like them or not, and we have had changes in judges, most for the better, but evolution not revolution.

I can see Tess having a big say in who they get so Vernon will be on a short list.
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Old 18-04-2014, 15:08
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If the aftermath doesn't get 8 million on Monday then the campaign will be deemed failure next week is make or break.
No it wont and no it isnt IMO.
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Old 18-04-2014, 15:19
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He's good at that.

If the aftermath doesn't get 8 million on Monday then the campaign will be deemed failure next week is make or break.
All TV channels will be down, as many people are on holiday and gone away in the school holidays.
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Old 18-04-2014, 15:30
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Without wanting to enter an argument, are you typing that simply because the chances of EastEnders getting 8m on Monday are slim and that you want it to fail, according to your terms? I am an EastEnders fan but, given how the overnights have been of late, I'd hazard a guess at 7.5m at most. There is, after all Premiership football on Sky kicking off at that time. Then we have Champions League on Tuesday which will further dent EastEnders. That disappoints me as a fan of EastEnders but it's realistic. EastEnders isn't doing spectacularly ratings-wise but neither is it performing particularly badly.

I just don't understand this constant need to batter EastEnders; I'm no fan of Coronation Street but I won't post vitriol about it at every opportunity. The point is next week's EastEnders looks great and if the episodes rate well, that's great for the BBC; if we continue to chug along at 6-7m, that's OK - not brilliant but not the end of the world. It's a storyline that will gather momentum over time.
No it wont and no it isnt IMO.
BBC haven't released a trailer straight after tonight's episode and promotion in London for the aftermath just for above 7 million. This campaign is there to boost ratings reaching that 8 million mark. Next week must get great ratings otherwise the show will be back to square one again and the whole Trailer and Campaign over the weekend deemed pointless.
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Old 18-04-2014, 15:45
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People with inside knowledge will be betting on the SCD host; whoever is the favourite is the new host.
Winkleman is 3/1 on. Speaks volumes really. Unless the bookies are making her look a certainty so that punters lump on at ridiculous odds and get stung.
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Old 18-04-2014, 16:13
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BBC haven't released a trailer straight after tonight's episode and promotion in London for the aftermath just for above 7 million. This campaign is there to boost ratings reaching that 8 million mark. Next week must get great ratings otherwise the show will be back to square one again and the whole Trailer and Campaign over the weekend deemed pointless.
As I have said many times, I doubt the BBC would care if the consolidated rating adds another million. Then with iPlayer views, pushes the viewers over the 9 million mark (unofficially). EE viewers are younger than Corrie, for example, and more likely to catch up later via iPlayer. Overnights only tell half the story, so 7.5m whilst average wouldn't be bad if it had a long term boost.
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Old 18-04-2014, 16:36
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The iPlayer isn't new though - it's been around now for about 8 years and been commonly used for a good few years, certainly by younger viewers. The 2m viewers EE have lost in the last couple of years haven't gone to the iPlayer - they've just gone.
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Old 18-04-2014, 16:50
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As I have said many times, I doubt the BBC would care if the consolidated rating adds another million. Then with iPlayer views, pushes the viewers over the 9 million mark (unofficially). EE viewers are younger than Corrie, for example, and more likely to catch up later via iPlayer. Overnights only tell half the story, so 7.5m whilst average wouldn't be bad if it had a long term boost.
Corrie timeshifts more than Eastenders on catch up. Iplayer figures mean sod all the ones that matter are overnights and Officials. People who work for BBC are promoting tonight's episode on Twitter meaning they want lost viewers to tune back in on first showing nothing wrong with that, but if viewers don't come back tonight or next week it will fall on its backside.
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:01
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I fear we are all being too optimistic again. Not that EE is not good or deserving but with the weather improving etc etc just cant see any major boost.
I am trying to be optimistic. Those 7.5m predictions are absolute best-case scenario. The likelihood is we'll see EE at about 7.1-7.2 million or in line with previous Mondays. The BBC3 repeat may see a boost but the BBC1 showing probably won't.

As I have said many times, I doubt the BBC would care if the consolidated rating adds another million. Then with iPlayer views, pushes the viewers over the 9 million mark (unofficially). EE viewers are younger than Corrie, for example, and more likely to catch up later via iPlayer. Overnights only tell half the story, so 7.5m whilst average wouldn't be bad if it had a long term boost.
But that assumes that a lot of older viewers don't know how to or can't use ITV Player to catch up with Corrie, which probably isn't true. We don't know how many people are catching up via ITV Player on Corrie compared with EE on BBC iPlayer. Plus, young people do watch Corrie so they'll be using catch up services as well to catch up with Corrie. I suspect the catch up figures between EE and Corrie are closer than people expect.
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:04
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:15
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Has Corrie always been a great time shifter. I'm surprised that EastEnders' Iplayer figures (on digital/cable platforms) aren't better than ITV players'.

The time shift also includes the ITV2 repeats within a certain time frame?
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:22
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Regardless of the ratings (I know a strange thing to say on a ratings forum ) is anybody actually looking forward to watching EE tonight?
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:24
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TV ratings for everything but BGT will be down over the next coming days as its Easter Holiday week. As long as the % shares are good for EE this next week then its job done.

Timeshifts for these episodes themselves might paint a better picture in a few weeks just like the Christmas Day ratings did
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:25
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Regardless of the ratings (I know a strange thing to say on a ratings forum ) is anybody actually looking forward to watching EE tonight?
Yep, I am; next week even more so.
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:28
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Regardless of the ratings (I know a strange thing to say on a ratings forum ) is anybody actually looking forward to watching EE tonight?
Absolutely. But I think next week's going to be excellent

I wonder if Simon Ashdown's writing tonight's episode or any episode next week.
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:32
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I just did a scientific test on the idea of Nick Knowles presenting Strictly. My test subject was my 87 year old mum who used to watch Come Dancing when it was a new show and loves Strictly. She cannot talk much due to a stroke but when I explained who Nick Knowles was her face changed and she screamed - quite loudly - NO!

If that is any way representative then it would be a catastrophic ratings error by the beeb.

I think Nick's dullish personality is perfect for quiz shows where the contestants and the game play are key and do not want overwhelming by the host but in a show like Strictly his personality would need a major revamp for him to not come over as a pretty wooden replacement for Brucie.

So I tested the other options with her:

Claudia - a nod and a mmm (acceptable but unimaginative I think)

John Barrowman - a turned up nose (no thanks, too me me for the show)

Vernon Kay - a half smile (yes, I like him, could be OK)

Graham Norton - a big smile (yes, I think he has the right happy personality for this show)

As for me - pretty much any of the above better than Nick Knowles.
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:40
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I just did a scientific test on the idea of Nick Knowles presenting Strictly. My test subject was my 87 year old mum who used to watch Come Dancing when it was a new show and loves Strictly. She cannot talk much due to a stroke but when I explained who Nick Knowles was her face changed and she screamed - quite loudly - NO!

If that is any way representative then it would be a catastrophic ratings error by the beeb.

I think Nick's dullish personality is perfect for quiz shows where the contestants and the game play are key and do not want overwhelming by the host but in a show like Strictly his personality would need a major revamp for him to not come over as a pretty wooden replacement for Brucie.

So I tested the other options with her:

Claudia - a nod and a mmm (acceptable but unimaginative I think)

John Barrowman - a turned up nose (no thanks, too me me for the show)

Vernon Kay - a half smile (yes, I like him, could be OK)

Graham Norton - a big smile (yes, I think he has the right happy personality for this show)

As for me - pretty much any of the above better than Nick Knowles.
I think most would agree with her....
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:51
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Well I hope the Lucy Beale storyline works for Eastenders. It's about time something did.
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Old 18-04-2014, 17:54
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Hope the Great North Passion thing rates better than the crowd who turned up.

Emptied out rather quickly once it was clear it was religious

Continuation of: The Ratings Thread (Part 58)
That sounds very funny. Was anybody left by the end?
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Old 18-04-2014, 18:01
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Eastenders shares should increase the next few episodes theoretically. HOWEVER in reality, they wont increase. Ratings shares on Bank Holiday Mondays ALWAYS go down for soaps, look at every years soap ratings for Easter Mondays going back half a decade, the share always drops. This is because on Easter Monday, more people than normal watch television especially stuff like multichannel tv, which depresses the mainstream channels' shares. Then on tuesday aganist major champions league opposition, its share will go down week on week once again.
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Old 18-04-2014, 18:13
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I think most would agree with her....
I actually agree with her too. No Nick Knowles or Barrowman.
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Old 18-04-2014, 18:24
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Absolutely. But I think next week's going to be excellent

I wonder if Simon Ashdown's writing tonight's episode or any episode next week.
No. Simon Ashdown doesnt work at EastEnders anymore.
We have however got James Payne back for Two episodes.
James has Written Monday & Tuesdays episode. He know EastEnders very well and works wonders for The Beale family.
(His script has been praised highly by Adam Woodyatt who hardly ever talks about Enders) His last episode written was 2008.
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