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Old 20-04-2014, 22:32
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Maybe they need the money !!!
ITV have often shown trailers from other channels, from recent memory C5's Big Brother, C4's dramas and I think the Taste and they currently have a deal with Sky to advertise their programme and vice versa. Usually they just say coming soon rather than give specific time and dates and IiRC I don't think they can actually refuse to advertise other channels, there was some bother with BT and Sky that explains it better:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...65058239,d.ZWU

Anyway shows how desperate the BBC is to get people watching EastEnders again really.
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:32
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Any channel can buy an advert on another channel. It would be very strange for the BBC to do so though, especially when they can advertise on their own TV and radio stations for free.

This would require licence fee money to be used to pay a commercial broadcaster which wouldn't be very good, so I don't believe it is actually happening.
Finally we agree on something

EastEnders and Corrie for starters are rivals and BBC1 and ITV are the two biggest channels and most of the time they like to get one over on each other. I don't see them promotion EastEnders in the same way BBC1 won't run a Corrie one
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:35
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Any channel can buy an advert on another channel. It would be very strange for the BBC to do so though, especially when they can advertise on their own TV and radio stations for free.

This would require licence fee money to be used to pay a commercial broadcaster which wouldn't be very good, so I don't believe it is actually happening.
I hardly ever see any adverts on ITV thank goodness so I have definately not seen it and also find it a little hard to believe - so who exactly says that this is happening?
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:36
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ITV have often shown trailers from other channels, from recent memory C5's Big Brother, C4's dramas and I think the Taste and they currently have a deal with Sky to advertise their programme and vice versa. Usually they just say coming soon rather than give specific time and dates and IiRC I don't think they can actually refuse to advertise other channels, there was some bother with BT and Sky that explains it better:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...65058239,d.ZWU

Anyway shows how desperate the BBC is to get people watching EastEnders again really.
In 2012 the BBC took their finger off EastEnders and let it down.
They admitted that themselves and of course they want to show people that it's out of it's state and hopefully have people tuning in.
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:39
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I have no way of seeing that now with adverts

Perhaps they will say at 8:00pm tomorrow 'Off back down to Weatherfield at 8:30 on ITV but in the meantime take a trip down south to Walford on BBC1'
'And that is followed by Hell freezing over'.
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:45
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'And that is followed by Hell freezing over'.
I always knew Coronation Street was regarded as Hell but freezing over is a little too far
It's not winter anymore
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:50
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What are we thinking for The Tommy Cooper program tommorrow. I somehow feel like I dont want to watch it but also feel strangely compelled to do so. Should do well ratings wise though - cant see Jamaica Inn beating it.
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:50
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I always knew Coronation Street was regarded as Hell but freezing over is a little too far
It's not winter anymore
That's funny - a lot of viewers seem to see EastEnders in that way at the moment.
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:54
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That's funny - a lot of viewers seem to see EastEnders in that way at the moment.
Yeah I know....'A HellofALotBetter '
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:00
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What are we thinking for The Tommy Cooper program tommorrow. I somehow feel like I dont want to watch it but also feel strangely compelled to do so. Should do well ratings wise though - cant see Jamaica Inn beating it.
It's a non-crime drama, two hours long and is quite a controversial show which has received criticism from Cooper's daughter. It'll definitely rate below 5million viewers. Jamaica Inn will also not rate very well, this has been described as a "dark" and "depressing" drama by the critics. Neither shows are mainstream.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:02
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Could someone please tell me when the ratings for " For the love of Cars " will be published ?
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:11
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The Sun today says research shows viewers are already bored by EE's Who Killed Lucy storyline and are incredulous they will have to wait until February to find the answer. I wonder if this is going to backfire on the BBC in a big way ?
The Sun sounds rattled.

Do you buy it for Page 3?
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:13
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Ratings Thread Discussion Topics Past 72 Hours

EastEnders: 97%
SamuelW: 2.5%
Ratings: 0.5%
You forgot Britain's Got Golden Buzzers!
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:14
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What are we thinking for The Tommy Cooper program tommorrow. I somehow feel like I dont want to watch it but also feel strangely compelled to do so. Should do well ratings wise though - cant see Jamaica Inn beating it.
I don't think it will be over 6million, but around 5.5m, compared to 5m for Jamaica Inn. I hope to be surprised but I think there will be people who feel its too depressing to watch.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:21
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Not sure the Tommy Copper drama will get high ratings tomorrow as it is proving to be very controversial
The lead looks more like a young Bruce Forsyth. Not sure how big an audience it'll get, but I expect it'll be rather an old one. I'm 38 and I can't remember much about Cooper. He was long past his peak when I was in my pram.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:22
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I don't think it will be over 6million, but around 5.5m, compared to 5m for Jamaica Inn. I hope to be surprised but I think there will be people who feel its too depressing to watch.
I feel that it sounds like it is going to debunk the guy by concentrating on his faults - not at all an affectionate tribute to him which is what I thought it was going to be when it was announced.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:24
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These types of biopics usually do well, ITV have been heavily promoting it so I wouldn't be surprised if it does 5.5-6m.

I do wonder if ITV will consider doing a drama about Benny Hill if the Tommy Cooper drama does well or is his life not as compelling compared to the likes of Tommy Cooper, Frankie Howerd etc

I feel that it sounds like it is going to debunk the guy by concentrating on his faults - not at all an affectionate tribute to him which is what I thought it was going to be when it was announced.
To be fair, a lot of biopics do that but I think by not showing his faults such as his drinking and his affair, they'd have criticism for whitewashing him so its a no win situations.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:25
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You forgot Britain's Got Golden Buzzers!
Interestingly enough I forget to switch it on every week as well.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:26
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They could have used it on Friday 10:35 when Graham Norton isn't on.

Having said that, I'd like to put money on that they will repeat it in that slot over the Summer.
It's getting its repeat in the week of transmission, so they'll probably stick something else in Norton's slot.

So to speak.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:28
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... you're watching an old man lifting weights while Angela Rippon watches.
When you put it like that, it isn't going to work in any slot!
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:32
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It's getting its repeat in the week of transmission, so they'll probably stick something else in Norton's slot.

So to speak.
Are you one of Julian Clary's scriptwriters.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:36
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I feel that it sounds like it is going to debunk the guy by concentrating on his faults - not at all an affectionate tribute to him which is what I thought it was going to be when it was announced.
Its the highs and lows of his life. From the trailer there appears to be happy moments and sad.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:37
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It's probably a 9pm show, but that wouldn't be a problem for BGT. I have to admit to being subtly amused that we've all now come round to thinking that 8pm is a perfect entertainment slot. Rewind a year and I was debating lots of people who were telling me that actually 7pm was the perfect family slot and moving BGT there had nothing to do with trying to kill off a certain BBC One singing show. Oh no, sir. Of course, The Voice moved later to take advantage of the eyeballs at 8pm and we then suddenly learned the perfect slot was in fact 7.30. Now, our tune has changed once more!


Approx 8.00pm for Factor this autumn, then!
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:44
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Its the highs and lows of his life. From the trailer there appears to be happy moments and sad.
It wont rate well. When's the last time a biopic rated well [5m+] on itv?
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:47
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So 8m I would say is the ultimate target. Anything below would be very underwhelming, given that they're promoting it everywhere.
So with Coronation St usually 1m or so ahead on Monday nights, we'd be looking at well over 9m for our Monday night Weatherfield double bill?

Or are we both being ridiculous now?
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