It does sound weird but in a good way imo, it's something different and I think it could be really interesting if done well. I agree that scheduling it will be difficult, there's no obvious place for it and every available slot would have it facing Emmerdale or Corrie. Maybe twice weekly, after EastEnders on Monday/Friday or before on Tuesday/Thursday, Emmerdale would probably be easier competition.

Got Talent has the advantage of being a variety show. So in cases where it directly clashes with a local hit version of X Factor, The Voice or perhaps now Rising Star it might be hurt (as it would against any strong competition) but in general, the format endures better. The US is a good example of this at the moment and even in Holland, which is crammed with all manner of talent and reality shows, it is continuing to perform. Dancing With The Stars is generally fine as well unless pitched directly against The Voice (as in the US). Both Talent and Stars main issues aren't emerging formats but just their age. In general a broadcaster will take Talent plus one of The Voice/Idol/Rising Star.

There is little to suggest that The Voice has been doing any damage to Got Talent. Since it came onto the scene, Talent has had drops of 5%, 2% and ~6%. If anything, Talent gained from the (indirect) competition in previous years.

Also, we like to moan about the number of talent shows but it's not that uncommon for countries to be running 3 singing based talent shows plus Got Talent and DWTS.

And it is a general trend that those buying Rising Star were those that didn't buy The Voice (ABC, RTL, M6, ITV).


Got Talent is going into its ninth season in France so it hasn't done too badly. Although it is on the smaller M6 network (TF1 dominates massively in France).

Sunday between Countryfile and Antiques Roadshow?

They may have been well established dramas but they were both in terminal decline at the time they were moved to Tuesdays, Taggart especially was on its last legs (and had already been shown in Scotland). There is absolutely nothing stopping people from tuning into ITV on Tuesdays apart from ITV themselves. Viewers never remember what day anything is on. Put something decent on Tuesdays and ITV can turn it round within a month.


Of all the things you could criticise Samuel for (quote your sources, Samuel), not using the accepted abbreviation for Coronation Street seems pretty low on the list. You should hear my mum garbling the name of every programme on television. We clearly know what he is referring to, unlike comments regarding The Voice using that easy-to-understand and totally unconfusing abbreviation "TV".


The Egypt friendly wasn't before the 2010 World Cup, it was in March. The last home friendly before the 2010 World Cup was against Mexico on a Monday night in May. In addition, the idea of it being the final home friendly makes so little difference, as far as the viewers are concerned England have two more friendlies in the next week, whether they're at home or away is of no interest. The only difference it makes is when the away friendlies are in a different time zone and out of primetime (like before 2002 when they were in the morning and before 2010 when the last friendly was on a Sunday lunchtime) which is not the case here. Wednesday's friendly is in a better slot than last Friday's.


You don't need to subscribe to it, it's free to all Sky viewers. What might be an issue though is the fact that Sky viewers have so much choice it might not stand out. Clearly it's trying to aim for a Sky Atlantic-style audience but Sky viewers already have that.


Well, I don't know about the latter because they have the boost from Christmas which does for BBC1 more or less what BGT does for ITV. And they have every Tuesday as well given ITV totally pack up.


Well, that's the suggestion, but actually I don't think that is the case because that office set would have needed to be set up and there are also a number of new performances - Brotherhood of Man, Boney M, Showaddywaddy and Darts are all new (the latter has to be, as Den Hegarty was in the band when that record was a hit, but his replacement Kenny Andrews is in that performance). The 1977 Christmas show, as seen the previous Christmas on BBC4, also features only four new performances and, despite being filmed in the proper studio, doesn't have a studio audience. Looking at it from a modern perspective, we're used to the Christmas shows being glitzy but in the seventies they were often the least exciting shows of the year. 1979 and 1980 don't have a studio audience either.

It is a crap episode, though, Christmas 1978, probably the worst of the seventies. A second episode was indeed cancelled due to the strike, which would presumably have been a bit better.


The Goodies the lowest rated of the night, no wonder they don't repeat them more often. Amazingly I Love 1973 is now fourteen years old, the equivalent of watching then a documentary about the fifties made in the mid-eighties.


I would disagree with that a bit because in 2002 there was substantially less sport on primetime BBC1, you'd only get football there and stuff like rugby, athletics and swimming would never have been on primetime BBC1. Now we do get sport in primetime quite frequently, and more sports have become more mainstream, so I think you'll get mugh higher ratings.

It's a bit like the World Cup, in 1990 they didn't show all the matches live - there were some days when they only showed highlights - and the Beeb showed quite a lot of the primetime matches on the group stage on BBC2 as they decided the regular primetime programming was more important. Nowadays we get it all, and we get it all on BBC1 as well, because football can now justify more primetime slots. I think the same is also becoming true of other sporting events.


Perhaps I should let this thread know when I'm away for the weekend. Yes, Corrie and 'stEnders (if I'm allowed to call it that) have been on Saturdays before. In 2000, during Euro 2000, both the Beeb and ITV showed England vs Germany on Saturday night but the Beeb put 'stEnders on before it to make it a special night (which worked). The same year, as part of Corrie's fortieth anniversary celebrations, they had it on seven days a week, but the Saturday episode was on at the ridiculous time of 9.15 because they didn't want to move anything else, so everyone forgot about it.

And yes, my mum did forget Corrie was on tonight until I reminded her.

Well they are in better shape than they were in the noughties and they do try quite hard with drama and factual. However, rather like British Leyland in the seventies, the brand was that badly damaged, when they made something good like the Rover 200people would still think of the Austin Allegro. Indeed for all the 200 was a good car, after a few years of ownership, the cars would fry their head gaskets, meaning customers would walk away( sad as otherwise they were fine cars).
ITV has the same problem, they make some good programmes, but the brand is tarnished after some really dreadful Austin Allegro style shows and I think ultimately they could falter in years to come as, drama apart, they rely overly much on two soaps and Simon Cowell to make money and as these shows have little or no DVD or repeat potential, this could hurt them in the long run. While Auntie can flog x amount of Top Gear shows to Dave, who really would want to watch a re run of TXF?

Once Champions League commitments go in 2015 I can see ITV really giving Tuesdays a go. Used to be one of their biggest nights with things like Soldier Soldier and Peak Practice. They let it become their TV graveyard.


I still don't know what will happen with ITV 3 now we have ITV Encore. If it becomes like UK Gold that would be fine for me.


BBC1 usually use EastEnders at Christmas as a lead in. That failed last Christmas as it was in such a mess and the programmes that followed EastEnders like Still Open All Hours, Sherlock and Mrs Brown's Boys all got better overnights. EastEnders at Christmas on BBC1 does not get the boost Corrie does from an I'm A Celeb week.


The Christmas 78 TOTP hasn't got anything new apart free m the Edmonds links and Abba saying Merry Christmas to Noel from the Mike Yarwood set as they were guests on his show. Didn't feel like a vintage edition at the time but fun all the same. Also was the last TOTP that Edmonds hosted.


The Goodies were slightly down but repeats have rated well when they shoved on some late night repeats over Christmas on BBC2 a few years back. And The Return Of The Goodies got 3m in Christmas 2005 so an audience is there.

Probably worth mentioning that at this point BGT is averaging exactly the same share as last year. Suggests the drop in raw figures is down to external factors other than the show.

When itv sorely owned the Champions League rights(before sharing with Sky) they showed Corrie at 9.45pm on Wednesday.

Scheduling was awful at times in the past, is awful at times now and will be awful at times in the future. Though to be fair that counts for all channels - not just ITV.

Yeah I wondered if "Strictly Come Dancing" would get a ratings boost by going into Q1 on Sundays at 7pm followed by "Call The Midwife" at 9pm.

You would have to be a very brave controller/scheduler to move something that works to another slot. Which is also why ITV wont move or change the BGT schedule anytime soon.

The Sun is reporting that Good Morning Britain is to be axed after ratings dropped to 270,000 last week (it was half term).

‘Good Morning Britain’, the ITV breakfast show fronted by Susanna Reid and Ben Shephard, could be axed after just one month on air, according to reports.

The show replaced ‘Daybreak’, however despite bosses’ best efforts, ‘Good Morning Britain’ has failed to pull in viewers.

A source has now told The Sun that the show “cannot survive” with such low ratings.

“No-one is expecting to beat the BBC and no-one is expecting to get over a million viewers,” the source said. “But we do want it to get above 15 per cent — or it is toast.”

The source adds that bosses are planning to wait a little longer before axing the show.

“[ITV’s Director of Television] Peter Fincham has too much riding on this,” they said. “It will get at least six months. Then it could just go and be replaced by cartoons.”

Last Monday, ‘Good Morning Britain’ saw its lowest ever audience, with just 270,000 people tuning in while 1.17 million watched BBC Breakfast.

Susanna is reportedly being paid £400,000 per year at ITV and her presenting skills have been praised by her former BBC colleague Bill Turnbull.

Last month the presenter received an apology from Freddie Starr, who stormed out of an interview when she posed a question about the sex abuse allegations he has previously faced.

All charges against the comedian have been dropped however Freddie declined to discuss the matter with Susanna and left the interview.

With The Sun website being behind a paywall - this article is from this link http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?utm_hp_ref=uk

In other words another story that The Sun has made up.

Now what makes you say that could it be the part which states that they will replace it with cartoons ? This obviously ignores the franchise agreement regarding news between 6 and 9.25am which the source must surely know

Not always an accurate source of news, but I know the critics have absolutely roasted GMB and the ratings have been terrible. I really think now ITN should take over the show and make it into rolling news, weather and sport. It might not rate brilliantly, but it would be far cheaper than the endless revamps ITV have seen at breakfast in the last four years.
It does now seem outside of primetime ITV is struggling with even once copperbottomed hits like This Morning struggling to get a million.

The Sun are stirring it, pure and simple. Using the half term ratings to spin a story. GMB won't be axed in a month.

Who believes what they read in the Sun?

I agree with Cylon 6, I think it would be too humiliating for ITV to scrap GMB after a month. Interesting that The Sun, which is the most pro ITV of the tabloids( referring to ITV as being its readers channel of choice once), seems to be turning on them.

Countryfile: 5.54m (29.3%)
Antiques Roadshow: 5.03m (23.2%)
Quirke: 3.69m (17.5%)

Countryfile has confounded everyone and moved from being a lunchtime show for rural people into a hit that can get 7 million on a good night. Rather like Top Gear, the transformation has been unbelievable.

It`s already been a month hasn`t it? Details aside it`s obvious it`s doomed.

Reid must be a jonah now for ITV and I can`t imagine the Beeb wanting her back.


Not the same programme as the one that used to air Sunday mornings though is it? People watch CF now for the same reason they watch Death in Paradise - For the scenery.

All that investment means GMB won't be gone in a month. It will be around for a year at least, just like Daybreak was before a big revamp of the format.

Bit late here but BBC2 at least will be dominated 12-17 August by the European Athletics championships.

Ahh well they weren't going with actual ratings were they? they were going with this threads favourite ratings bit, Share.