The Ratings Thread (Part 59)

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yorkie100

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by guestofseth:
“Wasn't it just last Easter Monday that something "dark and depressing" did quite well on ITV? I don't really think we can pull the "woe is ITV" act. It's a drama that just didn't work ratings-wise despite the critical praise, they happen to all channels more than they should, sadly. (Also can we stop going on about dark like it's a bad thing because it really isn't, and I've already said how the word 'depressing' is overused when it comes to fiction.)

As for Jamaica Inn, it's not the usual flopzone on ITV tonight, they have the Chelsea match that should do decently so you won't be able to use that excuse if it holds up (just like you won't be saying "there was nothing else on" when Prey does well next week.) Which it won't sadly due to the sound issues, which apparently was a fault with the channel as the sound is much better on iplayer.”

This is not the first time this has happened either. I regularly have to mess with the sound on some of these big dramas. Whats wrong with them. I dont ever remember such a problem on any other channel. Is it an HD problem?

wizzywick

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Typical that ITV do something a bit more special for Easter Monday, BBC1 put out a drama that by the look of the trailer dark and depressing (and as Samuel says is niche) but again viewers will only watch dark and depressing if its BBC1. Such a shame about the Tommy Cooper drama, it deserved way more than that.

The drop off from Jamaica Inn might be big tomorrow, or will they stick with it since there nothing else to watch at 9pm?

Good figure for EE, although 1million up isn't as massive as it sounds when you think how much promotion has gone in.”

Or perhaps, viewers were more interested to watch a classic novel dramatisation than a long gone, largely irrelevant comedian? Jamaica Inn would have won whether it was BBC1 or ITV. It just has much broader appeal, and I said as much two weeks ago.

yorkie100

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Or perhaps, viewers were more interested to watch a classic novel dramatisation than a long gone, largely irrelevant comedian? Jamaica Inn would have won whether it was BBC1 or ITV. It just has much broader appeal, and I said as much two weeks ago.”

Did you have any sound problems?

aggs

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Yes have to say I am sceptical on that as well. I think its a combination of a lot of the audience not knowing him that much plus the older audience who would know him not wanting to see the warts and all and remember him as he appeared to them. Thats my theory anyway - still a very poor number which not many would have predicted.”

I really can't believe that people still sit down to watch the start of a programme at the time the programme starts. Even my mum gives an ITV programme a good half an hour head start to run the adverts on.

How long is the actually running time of a 2 hour programme - an hour and a half or even less?

cylon6

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I was really impressed by him in programmes in the 1990s. I was amazed he stayed with Shameless until the end, though. I kept looking at the cast list in Radio Times every year, expecting him to have left. ”

David Threlfall made a tidy sum from Shameless and became an executive producer. He wasn't giving up that payday.

kwynne42

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“I really think it being two hours put people off as that's a long time to invest in a drama.”

Didn't bother the viewers of Endeavour did it

H of De Vil

22-04-2014

I really hope now that EE is top soap, its finally the incentive for ITV to act and get rid of Blackburn.

yorkie100

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I really hope now that EE is top soap, its finally the incentive for ITV to act and get rid of Blackburn.”

EE is not top soap or even close. There is a question about why CS did not itself do better yesterday as it has been getting 8.5m on normal Mondays but it will still probably timeshift above EE so still not a crisis really.

cylon6

22-04-2014

Considering where EastEnders has been adding 1m isn't too bad. Lots of shows tend to add 1m for a promoted episode.

yorkie100

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by aggs:
“I really can't believe that people still sit down to watch the start of a programme at the time the programme starts. Even my mum gives an ITV programme a good half an hour head start to run the adverts on.

How long is the actually running time of a 2 hour programme - an hour and a half or even less?”

I generally record all dramas on ITV and avoid all the ads but yesterday sat down to watch Tommy Cooper and was bored after half an hour. Like you say dont understand people watching live especially the 2 hour shows so much wasted time.

wizzywick

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Did you have any sound problems?”

No. But I guess it might depend on how your picture was being delivered. I had my Freeviw HD+ box on. Were there sound problems through other outlays?

Kapellmeister

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“No. But I guess it might depend on how your picture was being delivered. I had my Freeviw HD+ box on. Were there sound problems through other outlays?”

Only to the extent where you couldn't understand 80% of the dialogue.

I suspect the ratings will fall through the floor for the second and third episodes.

cylon6

22-04-2014

Game Of Thrones just gets bigger and bigger for Sky Atlantic.

"@LiamHamiltonDCD: Cool 1m viewers for ep 3 of #GameOfThrones - most watched single tx so far (consolidated will be chunky!) & most watched multi-channel prog"

wizzywick

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by Kapellmeister:
“Only to the extent where you couldn't understand 80% of the dialogue.

I suspect the ratings will fall through the floor for the second and third episodes.”

I had no problems in the respect that you suggest. I heard everything clearly enough.

centauri72

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Game Of Thrones just gets bigger and bigger for Sky Atlantic.

"@LiamHamiltonDCD: Cool 1m viewers for ep 3 of #GameOfThrones - most watched single tx so far (consolidated will be chunky!) & most watched multi-channel prog"”

Yes indeed. it wasn't that long ago that some on this thread were saying that Sky Atlantic, and Game of Thrones, were mis-steps by Sky. Not for the first or last time, Sky turns out to be much smarter than its critics allow..

Dancc

22-04-2014

It's another Geordie Shore/MTV situation. Everything else in the tens of thousands probably.

cylon6

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by centauri72:
“Yes indeed. it wasn't that long ago that some on this thread were saying that Sky Atlantic, and Game of Thrones, were mis-steps by Sky. Not for the first or last time, Sky turns out to be much smarter than its critics allow..”

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It's another Geordie Shore/MTV situation. Everything else in the tens of thousands probably.”

Game Of Thrones is massive for Sky Atlantic but they need other big shows on the channel. Home-grown programming doesn't do as well on the channel or get close to GOT's ratings.

jake lyle

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by centauri72:
“Yes indeed. it wasn't that long ago that some on this thread were saying that Sky Atlantic, and Game of Thrones, were mis-steps by Sky. Not for the first or last time, Sky turns out to be much smarter than its critics allow..”

When??? Utter nonsense. Who has ever said GOT was a mis step by Sky?

It's rated well since day 1.

big dan

22-04-2014

Fantastic for Eastenders, about half a million more than I was expecting as it's best possible figure. Goes to show the audience is still there.
Corrie even saw an increase for it's second episode, I imagine due to casual soap viewers being drawn in by EE. All the soaps were good last night, i eally hope EE managed to at least remain in the higher 7's this week.

Fantastic for GoT too, it just keeps on delivering.

D.M.N.

22-04-2014

When was the last time EastEnders beat Corrie outside of Christmas or big clashes? (i.e. Wimbledon)

Hate how DS make it out to be a usual occurrence, when it clearly isn't.

Ice dragon1

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“When was the last time EastEnders beat Corrie outside of Christmas or big clashes? (i.e. Wimbledon)

Hate how DS make it out to be a usual occurrence, when it clearly isn't.”

I don't see that. If anything they seem to be making a big thing out if EE beating Corri because as you said it's not often you can say that about EE.

yorkie100

22-04-2014

Dont think anybody has had a go at GOT - but one decent hit and 10 episodes a year does not a channel make.

Dancc

22-04-2014

And so it begins. Did SamuelW write this piece?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27109260

yorkie100

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“And so it begins. Did SamuelW write this piece?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27109260”

Who on earth is interested in what Nic Owen says? Hardly a major BBC attack is it?

AnthonyC

22-04-2014

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“And so it begins. Did SamuelW write this piece?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27109260”

A very cannily timed article with one week to go....!

I have to agree with the observation though. Stars that have highly publicised switches with big money offers to other channels put me off. Whether the presenter likes it or not they will be tarnished with the brush of greed.

M&W, Forsyth, Lynam, Bleakly, Chiles, etc are all testaments to that.

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