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The Ratings Thread (Part 59)
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xeo
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Looks like ITV are going to have to find two new producers for their two soaps. Both appear to be doing there best at boring the viewer. Its only going to get worse if EE continues to remain strong, it could end up top soap within the next few weeks.

Seemeingy both Blackburn and Katie Oats think viewers will watch anything.”

I think it's unfair to blame Kate Oates. Most fans are enjoying Emmerdale right now last time I checked, I'm not sure why ratings are floundering.
cylon6
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by xeo:
“7.5m (37.4%) for EastEnders.

Shame it lost so much from Tuesday but the share is still fantastic.”

Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“Utterly dreadful for Emmerdale, both under 6m!

Makes EE 7.5m look great even with the big drop from Tuesday.”

Remember though that a 37% share on Tuesday gave EastEnders 8m. If the share stays at this level then ratings will be strong. That's why Coronation Street's ratings are good, 35-40% shares consistently.
SamuelW
25-04-2014
Masterchef is going good damage to EmFarm's ratings, denting its 8pm share by about 5%. BBC need to think about airing more MasterChef episodes throughout the year, another spin-off like MasterChef The Professionals moviong to BBC One would be a good idea. Extending the normal run of MasterChef by another 3 or so weeks would be a good move too.
Wryip
25-04-2014
Emmerdale's ratings must be a bit concerning for ITV, as unlike Corrie, it does have a few major storylines playing out at the moment. Charity, Declan and the baby. Donna's illness and Marlon getting used to April. Val coping with HIV. The question of Adam Barton's parentage. Belle being on trial.

Its certainly not for a lack of story ideas, but the new Barton's are largely unlikeable esp James who is highly unlikeable yet isn't a villain either. The Belle story has just been going round and round in circles for weeks. These have particularly been the main stories for the last couple of weeks and they are both tedious
Hit Em Up Style
25-04-2014
When will iplayer be added to the officials? have BARB set a date yet?
yorkie100
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Hope tonight doesn't let the week down. Friday's are notoriously low days for EastEnders. It would be great if they could have a full week of episodes going over 8 million in the officials. Last time that happened must have been 2010/2011. ”

Its not as long ago as you think. It did it a few times in January 2013 and March 2013 and was not far off doing it in January 2014 a few times either.
Philip Wilson
25-04-2014
Yes a little unfair on Kate Oates, I have enjoyed Emmerdale and their are plenty of storylines but for some reason the ratings just won't go up.

While the EastEnders share is great I'm a little disappointed it dropped almost 1m viewers since Tuesday, should be enough to beat Corrie tonight though and EE still up 1m week on week which is good.

Terrible night for ITV with 2.1m at 9pm, Parking Mad should have done better with such poor competition.
derek500
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“When will iplayer be added to the officials? have BARB set a date yet?”

They already are if watched through the TV. Must be getting more the norm now. We have four different versions of iPlayer on our TV: Sky, smart TV, blu-ray and Chromecast.
cylon6
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“First ED share is decent, second is appalling.”

Masterchef must be hurting Emmerdale at 8pm. The 8pm Emmerdale has had a share around 27% for the last few weeks opposite Masterchef.
jake lyle
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Masterchef is going good damage to EmFarm's ratings, denting its 8pm share by about 5%. BBC need to think about airing more MasterChef episodes throughout the year, another spin-off like MasterChef The Professionals moviong to BBC One would be a good idea. Extending the normal run of MasterChef by another 3 or so weeks would be a good move too.”

Surely there won't be any space with the 16 week run of 'Pound shop wars' that you've planned
derek500
25-04-2014
Wonder if Gogglebox has put a bit of Jamaica Inn on the showreel this week? Be fun to see their reactions to not hearing what's going on.
yorkie100
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Wonder if Gogglebox has put a bit of Jamaica Inn on the showreel this week? Be fun to see their reactions to not hearing what's going on.”

You would have thought Jamaica Inn and EE would be certainties.
yorkie100
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Masterchef must be hurting Emmerdale at 8pm. The 8pm Emmerdale has had a share around 27% for the last few weeks opposite Masterchef.”

It turns out that the 27-28% share for the 2nd ED goes back to at least February. Then it was worth 6.2-6.4m but now obviously much less.
Doctor Bench
25-04-2014
Here's how EastEnders rated yesterday in previous years, if anyone's interested:

2005: 9.66m (48.0%)
2006: 8.96m (43.1%)
2007: 7.20m (39.0%)
2008: 8.90m (44.0%)
2009: 7.99m (40.2%)
2010: 8.14m (40.0%)
2011: 7.32m (39.2%)
GoshBagosh
25-04-2014
Good rating for Posh Pawn. I'm loving it. Very entertaining
Ice dragon1
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by xeo:
“7.5m (37.4%) for EastEnders.

Shame it lost so much from Tuesday but the share is still fantastic.”

Shame it dropped but then again the share is great for it. Had it been Tus it would have been 8mil again. ED I have no idea what's going on there.
NeilVW
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Masterchef must be hurting Emmerdale at 8pm. The 8pm Emmerdale has had a share around 27% for the last few weeks opposite Masterchef.”

But the +1 at 9pm was only 167k, lower than I would have expected given the competition.
cylon6
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“It turns out that the 27-28% share for the 2nd ED goes back to at least February. Then it was worth 6.2-6.4m but now obviously much less.”

You're right. Emmerdale should really be over 30% for both Thursday outings.
cylon6
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by GoshBagosh:
“Good rating for Posh Pawn. I'm loving it. Very entertaining”

What did Posh Pawn get?
cylon6
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Shame it dropped but then again the share is great for it. Had it been Tus it would have been 8mil again. ED I have no idea what's going on there.”

I wish EastEnders was getting these shares back in the Autumn. It does show that people have been interested in the programme. Emmerdale is a strange one. Can't workout what is happening with on Thursday.
Servalan
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by Wryip:
“Emmerdale's ratings must be a bit concerning for ITV, as unlike Corrie, it does have a few major storylines playing out at the moment. Charity, Declan and the baby. Donna's illness and Marlon getting used to April. Val coping with HIV. The question of Adam Barton's parentage. Belle being on trial.

Its certainly not for a lack of story ideas, but the new Barton's are largely unlikeable esp James who is highly unlikeable yet isn't a villain either. The Belle story has just been going round and round in circles for weeks. These have particularly been the main stories for the last couple of weeks and they are both tedious”

ED's problem is that it can never compete with CS and EE for publicity, but it is capable of pulling in viewers with a big story. Big stories need to be well told, however ...

I can only claim to be a casual viewer but those ratings don't surprise me. Every time I've seen it, I've had a sense of stories being dragged out way beyond their natural life and characters floating around aimlessly. ITV has every reason to be concerned - but given that everything on-screen must have signed off by Jane Hudson, who oversees both CS and ED, that would rather indicate that she's either unable to influence what's getting on-screen or she's in denial about how weak it is. Put it against an apparently resurgent EE, and it looks even weaker.

Bearing in mind how strong it was only six months ago, this is not good ... emergency surgery required soon if it carries on like this - but by whom?
GoshBagosh
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“What did Posh Pawn get?”

On Channel 4, Posh Pawn continued with 1.5m (6.9%) at 8pm (230k/1.1%), followed by Kevin's Supersized Salvage with 1.3m (6.3%) at 9pm (281k/2.0%)


Channel 4: (inc+1)

Posh Pawn 1.73 Mill
Kevin's Supersized Salvage 1.58 Mill
sheepiefarm
25-04-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Masterchef must be hurting Emmerdale at 8pm. The 8pm Emmerdale has had a share around 27% for the last few weeks opposite Masterchef.”

The 8pm ep of ED has been struggling for a fair length of time now - even when it was up against Waterloo Road - I wouldn't say it's "just" down to going against Masterchef.
H of De Vil
25-04-2014
Personally I think ITV would be better hiring some of the soap fans on here who actually know their soap inside out and know which storylines would work and ones that wouldn't.

If EeastEnders beats Corrie tonight (which is very likely) and again next week, I can see that becoming a trend. Both Corrie and Emmerdale are rating poorly and should be doing better. If they were EE's rating wouldn't be looking so impressive.

Btw did BBC1 promote Parking Mad? Its only that ITV had no promotion for Wanted: A Family of My Own and got 2.3m for it. I imagine the viewers of Masterchef just had the control quantum locked on BBC1. When ITV has a weak programme (Ade at Sea) preceding a new programme, its seem less people are inclined to turn over and instead stay on BBC1.
Tassium
25-04-2014
If people are wondering why "share" for the soaps is high it's because the total numbers of people watching TV is quite low.

e.g.

7.5m viewers when total audience is 30m = 25% share
7.5m viewers when total audience is 15m = 50% share


The soaps tend to hang onto audiences better than TV as a whole does.
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