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Without wanting to 'get involved'... 3 million down year on year? What figures are you using to get to that conclusion?
Meh, best remember to unsubscribe again. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...oBSrwtsFRe52te |
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Who knows. EE hasn't been able to win back the casuals yet so what evidence is there that Corrie will? You cant dismiss them losing 3 million in 12 months. That's a lot of viewers and just because it is still ahead of EE doesn't mean its all rosey in the garden.
Things definitely aren't great for Corrie, I would actually like it to fall behind soon so ITV take action as a quality programme is more important to me. It's just you can't realistically say that being however many viewers behind a very weak Corrie is good. |
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Well its down almost 3 million on last years Good Friday episode involving Kirsty and Tyrone. I'm going off that.
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As of yet we have no evidence that casual viewers have lost interest in Corrie. If they pull out all of the stops like EastEnders have and the figures still don't budge then only then can we say that.
Things definitely aren't great for Corrie, I would actually like it to fall behind soon so ITV take action as a quality programme is more important to me. It's just you can't realistically say that being however many viewers behind a very weak Corrie is good. Viewers take a long time to drop off and they take even longer to come back. That's why ITV should take action now before Corrie ends up in the same boat EE is in. |
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People complain about the discussions about X Factor and The Voice dominating this thread and going round in circles but at least those used to only happen once a week around the weekend.
In sure we get the same posts about the soaps dominating this thread after every episode now, which basically means 5 days a week. EastEnders in crisis, Corrie in crisis, Emmerdale in crisis, EastEnders plots discussed in the finest of detail with them being described as the best ever, the same people making the same posts every 2 days. It's not that interesting. |
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EastEnders was still rating good all through 2011 and 2012 though despite being crap.
Viewers take a long time to drop off and they take even longer to come back. That's why ITV should take action now before Corrie ends up in the same boat EE is in.
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Anything is bound to be better than Daybreak. But it wont be enough to tempt loyal BBC Breakfast viewers over. I bet in 6months, the situation will be the same- BBC Breakfast winning the ratings by over 2 to 1. If youre a viewer of BBC Breakfast, give me some reasons why you'd suddenly stop watching it after several years and tune over to Itvs breakfast show? Theres no reason, viewers will stick with what they know best. Susanna Reid will make no difference, in fact BBC Breakfast got its best Monday rating of the year just after Susanna Reid was put on gardening leave!
History shows that when ITV stop competing in a slot or genre, the BBC often make cuts in the same area not long after as they can either declare a win, or get high ratings with minimal effort. |
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I Dont see the point in Comparing Easter year in year. Last Year we had snow and Easter was in March. This year its warmer and later.
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Last year Easter was three weeks earlier with awful weather with Corrie airing the conclusion of a long running storyline. Clutching at straws
springs to mind. Can't we just assess the soaps on their own merits rather than practically foaming at the mouth at the prospect of CS joining in The Official Soap Crisis. All seems a bit petty tbh. |
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I Dont see the point in Comparing Easter year in year. Last Year we had snow and Easter was in March. This year its warmer and later.
It's still topping the soap ratings despite general boredom/tedium with the show. EastEnders could well catch up or overtake as it's excellent at the moment with no signs of dying down. But everyone knows there's a gigantic storyline on Corrie about to explode next month with the affair reveal/murder. It's not like they've given up for the Summer either and Michelle Keegan will pull in 'casual young viewers'. I regard this period as a minor lull after the intense 'Cropper storyline' and boring-yet-necessary preparation for that massive fallout. We endured months of shit in 2009 when Kevin and Molly had the affair pre-tram crash reveal but the fallout was stunning. I think Corrie and EE will be as strong as each other this summer while Emmerdale will descend into something of a crisis worth talking about. Not that it'll stop the opportunistic Corrie bashing. So circular. Anyway - outta here - was auto subscribed again when I posted earlier and I've been enjoying not being a part of this dilapidated thread where all the best posters from the past are mostly gone or lurking. Happy Easter everyone. |
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Yes but for how long? EEs decline appears to have stopped and now its levelled out. Unless the same happens for Corrie will EE end up edging in front? last night shows how close they can be. If this story works for EE then I don't see how anything can be seen as a negative for the BBC.
Of course though Corrie benefits better from timeshifts but still a 3 million loss in a year is not something to be proud of. Even if it is still ahead of EE by a few thousand in overnights. That's alarming to be honest. I'm surprised ITV aren't asking questions about Blackburn yet. I am so angry at Blackburn and the Corrie team for letting this happen. If Corrie remains weak up until Xmas, ad given that it is usually their tentpole of the schedule on the Xmas day, then ITV are going to have an awful Xmas day rating for the soap. Its taking EE months to stop the decline, is this what Corrie now has to look forward to thanks to Blackburn. He should never be allowed near a soap, or any TV programme again. |
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Without wanting to 'get involved'... 3 million down year on year? What figures are you using to get to that conclusion?
Meh, best remember to unsubscribe again. Hence yesterdays Coro rating of 6.8m is about 3m down from the Good Friday episode of 2013. |
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It was a rather uninspiring couch though, and Ricky Gervais makes me want to eject my TV out of the window and I known a lot of others feel the same
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On Good Friday last year, Coro St. averaged 9.6million viewers: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...onclusion.html
Hence yesterdays Coro rating of 6.8m is about 3m down from the Good Friday episode of 2013. |
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You will probably be right, but it is better for TV for there to be two strong shows going head to head than ITV giving up and the BBC putting out a really bland show that gets high ratings by default.
History shows that when ITV stop competing in a slot or genre, the BBC often make cuts in the same area not long after as they can either declare a win, or get high ratings with minimal effort. Also, apart from a few people on DS and TVForum, viewers couldnt care less about the graphics, what angle the sofa is pointed or what the theme tune is like. All most people want is a solid service which gives the latest news, weather and regional news in good depth in a professional manner. It seems like Itv once again are putting too much emphasis on the presentation rather than content. No one will care about the 'fluidity' of the on screen graphics lol! |
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Someone said The Voice was a poor mans X Factor a few weeks back. May have been that, it's a double blow.
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History doesnt show us that. The weaker Itv are in a slot, the stronger the BBC will be and the more they will try. For example, Itv have given up on the Tuesday 9pm slot. The BBC hasnt given up on that slot as a result or gone lazy, on the contrary, this is the slot the BBC airs new original drama most year round. Good Morning Britain is destined to become a failure, this isnt the 1980s when viewers will switch channel from BBC1 to Itv quite easily due to the lack of channels available. Viewers will stick with what theyre happy with, which is BBC Breakfast. Unless Breakfast monumentally cocks up by introducing loads of z list showbiz pieces and competitions etc, it will keep its loyal viewers happy and they wont have any reason to tune over.
Also, apart from a few people on DS and TVForum, viewers couldnt care less about the graphics, what angle the sofa is pointed or what the theme tune is like. All most people want is a solid service which gives the latest news, weather and regional news in good depth in a professional manner. It seems like Itv once again are putting too much emphasis on the presentation rather than content. No one will care about the 'fluidity' of the on screen graphics lol! I rarely watch either but if I am home, I will watch Daybreak for the Newshour rather than BBC. The showbiz stuff, I'm not really bothered about. It's an alternative to hard news for 2 hours in the morning. There is an audience, albeit quite a small one at present, but there is an audience for Daybreak in it's present form. I think people do care about the graphics on television and the presentation. If you had a shockingly put together programme or one that just looked crap because they put no effort into it, people would complain or switch off. |
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I think people do care about the graphics on television and the presentation. If you had a shockingly put together programme or one that just looked crap because they put no effort into it, people would complain or switch off.
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Have I Got News For You tops Friday ratings for third week
Have I Got News For You topped Friday's (April 18) ratings for the third week running. The BBC One panel show, which was hosted by Jeremy Clarkson, was Friday's highest-rated show outside of soaps, attracting 4.46 million (20.6%) viewers at 9pm. BBC One's evening kicked off with 3.06 million (17.5%) for The One Show at 7pm, followed by 2.82 million (14.4%) for A Question of Sport at 7.30pm. An average of 3.8 million (17%) viewers tuned in to watch Masterchef at 8.30pm, while an Outnumbered repeat was seen by 2.89 million (13.9%) at 9.30pm. The evening ended with 2.74 million viewers (19.5%) for The Graham Norton Show at the slightly earlier time of 10.20pm. This week's guests included Ricky Gervais and Ronnie Corbett. Drama series Lewis was the highest-rated show outside of soaps on ITV, entertaining 2.81 million (13.3%) at 9pm. Elsewhere, Weekend Escapes with Warwick Davis was seen by 2.47 million (11.8%) at 8pm. BBC Two's highest-rated show of the evening was Mastermind with 2.23m (10.7%) at 8pm. It was followed by Gardeners' World with 1.97m (8.8%) immediately after. The evening continued with Natural World and The Trip to Italy, which attracted 1.68m (7.9%) and 1.02m (5.8%) viewers respectively. Over on Channel 4, Gogglebox entertained 2.54 million (12%) at 9pm, followed by 1.46m (9.5%) for Alan Carr: Chatty Man at 10pm. A slightly increased 950k (4.4%) watched Marvel's Agents of SHIELD at 8pm. The latest episode of Ice Road Truckers entertained 843k (3.9%) at 8pm on Channel 5, while NCIS: Death Wish was seen by 1.16 million (5.5%) immediately after. The evening continued with 622k (3.8%) for NCIS: Los Angeles and 325k (3.2%) for Britain's Crime Capitals. Russell Howard's Good News Extra was among the highest-rated multichannel shows, attracting 540k (2.9%) at 9.45pm. |
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History doesnt show us that. The weaker Itv are in a slot, the stronger the BBC will be and the more they will try. For example, Itv have given up on the Tuesday 9pm slot. The BBC hasnt given up on that slot as a result or gone lazy, on the contrary, this is the slot the BBC airs new original drama most year round. Good Morning Britain is destined to become a failure, this isnt the 1980s when viewers will switch channel from BBC1 to Itv quite easily due to the lack of channels available. Viewers will stick with what theyre happy with, which is BBC Breakfast. Unless Breakfast monumentally cocks up by introducing loads of z list showbiz pieces and competitions etc, it will keep its loyal viewers happy and they wont have any reason to tune over.
Also, apart from a few people on DS and TVForum, viewers couldnt care less about the graphics, what angle the sofa is pointed or what the theme tune is like. All most people want is a solid service which gives the latest news, weather and regional news in good depth in a professional manner. It seems like Itv once again are putting too much emphasis on the presentation rather than content. No one will care about the 'fluidity' of the on screen graphics lol! |
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As long as the graphics are decent, viewers wont really care or complain. I am happy to bet you £1000 that by December 2014 BBC Breakfast will still be beating Itv's breakfast show by over 2 to 1. Theres literally no chance of viewers switching over unless a massive scandal involving BBC Breakfast happens. Even during a recent BBC News strike when all the presenters were different and Breakfast coverage was scaled back, BBC Breakfast still won the ratings with ease. That is proof that even with a scaled back BBC News service and inferior presentation compared to normal, viewers are loyal to BBC One at that time and not willing to switch over to Itv or Sky.
I'm willing to bet £1000 that if ITV went for a hard news programme, some people would be saying that it's a Breakfast rip-off and they are just trying to copy their format. |
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ITV still haven't learned the lesson that if you get the format right viewers will follow.If you throw money at indifferent presenters from another channel (what on earth led ITV to think Chiles and Bleakley were popular ?) viewers will actively resent it and switch off/over. I fear ITV have made the same mistake again with Susanna Reid and co.Journalistically BBC Breakfast is a much better operation (although it does have some weak points like the business section which should really be called consumer news or simply dropped).In a year's time I'm sure the ratio will still be 3-1 in the BBC's favour.
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I cant believe Itv are making the same mistakes as 4 years ago. By poaching Susanna Reid, what theyve done is intensify the media expectation for Good Morning Britain. People will be willing for it to fail as no one likes it when a presenter moves to another channel for the money, it rarely ever works out. They shouldve just had a low key set of presenters, I know the others are fairly low key, but Reid's presence alone will make this a very difficult project to work as the media and some viewers [housewives jealous of Susanna Reid's good looks and money] will be against it right from the start. I dont know if BBC will be 3 to 1 in a years time [hopefully it is], but it will defo continue to be above 2 to 1. Did you know among viewers aged over 65, Breakfast beats Itv by about 6 to 1? Such is a the strength of Breakfast among the older audiences, it will be next to impossible for Itv's breakfast show to close the gap significantly. I doubt these viewers will be willing to tune into Itv's show to watch the celebrity gossip, all the competition segments etc. If you want to win the ratings, you've got to appeal to the older audience. BBC Breakfast does that aplenty, Itv's breakfast show repels these viewers as it is so fixated with appealing to 'stay-at-home mums'.
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But of course if it was the other way around, Susanna would suddenly be immensely popular all over the country and would be a fantastic hiring by the BBC
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Why The One Show was on on Good Friday in the first place is more the question, not why it wasn't on an hour.
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I Dont see the point in Comparing Easter year in year. Last Year we had snow and Easter was in March. This year its warmer and later.
Re: Good Morning Britain. As the EastEnders fans will tell you improvements on screen doesn't mean the ratings will reflect that. I just hope ITV learn from their mistakes with Daybreak and give Good Morning Britain time to establish itself rather than turning it back to GMTV at the first opportunity. |
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