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The Ratings Thread (Part 59)
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Chris1964
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“O'Grady would do better away from Pointless. He doesn't rule the 5pm slot anymore but could rule a new timeslot.



Daybreak was getting around 700k before Lorraine & Aled took over. And then they were getting that a few times before it was axed. Now GMB has 700k. It better rate higher as that would be a lot of money spent to replace Daybreak and then end up with the same ratings as Daybreak.”

Obviously this just the first week for GMB but that's a good point. Figures are pinballing around the same area as Daybreak. Id be surprised if anything inherent in GMB is innovative or special enough to make a significant upswing to those figures.
yorkie100
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“TV schedules seem to be a bit July/August-esque. Is there any reason for this?”

There does seem to be a lot of filler around at the moment plus most LE on ITV/BBC seems to be quite low as well (BGT excepted). But I would agree if this is what we are generally getting now I dont know how bad the schedules are going to be in Summer.

Having said that there is a lot of good drama atm with Vera/Crimson Field/Prey/Happy Valley/Fargo.

It does seem however that ITV particularly cant put a decent schedule together - its one hit surrounded by dross. Wed/Thur/Fri are pretty poor if your not interested in Masterchef or soaps.
hyperstarsponge
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“There does seem to be a lot of filler around at the moment plus most LE on ITV/BBC seems to be quite low as well (BGT excepted). But I would agree if this is what we are generally getting now I dont know how bad the schedules are going to be in Summer.

Having said that there is a lot of good drama atm with Vera/Crimson Field/Prey/Happy Valley/Fargo.

It does seem however that ITV particularly cant put a decent schedule together - its one hit surrounded by dross. Wed/Thur/Fri are pretty poor if your not interested in Masterchef or soaps.”

Wish people will check other channels apart from BBC1 and ITV, BBC4 was quite good at 21:00 last night
Neil_N
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“There does seem to be a lot of filler around at the moment plus most LE on ITV/BBC seems to be quite low as well (BGT excepted). But I would agree if this is what we are generally getting now I dont know how bad the schedules are going to be in Summer.

Having said that there is a lot of good drama atm with Vera/Crimson Field/Prey/Happy Valley/Fargo.

It does seem however that ITV particularly cant put a decent schedule together - its one hit surrounded by dross. Wed/Thur/Fri are pretty poor if your not interested in Masterchef or soaps.”

I think the channels should be blessing their lucky stars the World Cup is on. It's pretty depressing, and what doesn't help is it's the same things! I remember when Channel 4 used to have comedy on a Friday, yet it's that cheap crap Gogglebox (are people in this country morons?) and Alan Carr all the time! Soaps should be limited or scrapped, and the money to invest.

It's dull times.
yorkie100
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“I think the channels should be blessing their lucky stars the World Cup is on. It's pretty depressing, and what doesn't help is it's the same things! I remember when Channel 4 used to have comedy on a Friday, yet it's that cheap crap Gogglebox (are people in this country morons?) and Alan Carr all the time! Soaps should be limited or scrapped, and the money to invest.

It's dull times.”

Have to say that is my reaction to it as well but we cant all like the same things I suppose.
cylon6
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Wish people will check other channels apart from BBC1 and ITV, BBC4 was quite good at 21:00 last night ”

Enough watched BBC4 at 9pm last night to beat BBC2, Channel 4 and Channel 5. 1.2m is a hell of a figure!
Neil_N
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Have to say that is my reaction to it as well but we cant all like the same things I suppose.”

That's true, but hey if someone wants to watch others watching TV thats up to them. Give it time, Channel 4 will commission "The Bathroom" which will be watching someone take a dump.
yorkie100
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Wish people will check other channels apart from BBC1 and ITV, BBC4 was quite good at 21:00 last night ”

Well we are talkings ratings so we concentrate on the big channels. I watch a lot of BBC4 though and saw More4 (The Good Wife) and even Sky has Game of Thrones on atm.
Brekkie
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“TV schedules seem to be a bit July/August-esque. Is there any reason for this?”

The World Cup is only a few weeks away so we probably won't be seeing any more six parters starting, while ITV also have BGT week (a week the BBC usually rolls over for nowadays too) and other football games before that. It'll be about what they can squeeze in between now and then.
SamuelW
02-05-2014
Excellent once again for Parking Mad with its 4million. Havent watched it but the ratings have been consistent all series. Worth bringing it back for a longer second series next year. What with that, Pound Shop Wars, Animal Odd Couples, the Animal Odd Couples spin off and shows about benefits cheats, BBC One has a solid set of Thursday night factual shows set for next year [assuming they all return]. If they can squeeze some more episodes out of MasterChef as well as promoting MC Professionals to BBC1, then that's gonna help stabilise Thursdays even more.
SamuelW
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“The new afternoon line up is a bit of a car crash. to be frank

Here's ITV from 1pm - 6pm

Loose Women - 700k
News - 700k
Jo Frost - 600k
Dickinson - 700k
Ejector Seat - 1m
POG Show - 1.7m”

BBC bosses must be laughing their heads off and love it whenever Itv takes Tipping Point and The Chase off the schedules for long breaks every few months. With those two shows, Itv has a guaranteed 20%+ share between 4-6pm and ratings double of what the above has achieved. Yet for some bizarre reason, Itv keep taking them off every few months, and the replacement programs rate poorly and helps boost BBC1's daytime ratings. Also Loose Women is tanking right now, as is Jo Frost. Any fool can see that the POG Show would be better airing earlier in daytime with them keeping Tipping and The Chase at 4-6pm, in order to maximise ratings.
Jonwo
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Excellent once again for Parking Mad with its 4million. Havent watched it but the ratings have been consistent all series. Worth bringing it back for a longer second series next year. What with that, Pound Shop Wars, Animal Odd Couples, the Animal Odd Couples spin off and shows about benefits cheats, BBC One has a solid set of Thursday night factual shows set for next year [assuming they all return]. If they can squeeze some more episodes out of MasterChef as well as promoting MC Professionals to BBC1, then that's gonna help stabilise Thursdays even more.”

I doubt they'll promote Masterchef the Professionals and the show is in need of a new chef since Michel Roux Jr quit, plus it would be overkill in addition to more episodes since they've already have Celebrity Masterchef.
Bushmills
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Excellent once again for Parking Mad with its 4million. Havent watched it but the ratings have been consistent all series. Worth bringing it back for a longer second series next year. What with that, Pound Shop Wars, Animal Odd Couples, the Animal Odd Couples spin off and shows about benefits cheats, BBC One has a solid set of Thursday night factual shows set for next year [assuming they all return]. If they can squeeze some more episodes out of MasterChef as well as promoting MC Professionals to BBC1, then that's gonna help stabilise Thursdays even more.”

With Bake-Off moving from Two, the BBC Trust simply won't allow One to squeeze yet more episodes out of Masterchef.
SamuelW
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“With Bake-Off moving from Two, the BBC Trust simply won't allow One to squeeze yet more episodes out of Masterchef.”

Thats a shame. What about the Sport/Comic Relief spin-off of The Great British Bakeoff? Hopefully BBC One can get a 6 episode series out of that for next year.

With Great British Bake-Off, I would say BBC One should air a 13-episode run of it this Autumn on Sundays at 8pm. It will have a Strictly Come Dancing lead-in and will be a guaranteed 6m+ hit.

Then a 6-episode spin-off next year called The Great British Bake Off Does Comic Relief to air on Monday nights at 9pm in February/March against Broadchurch. Could dent Broadchurch's ratings quite a bit.
Steve Williams
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“As for ITV repeats BBC1 were repeating Mrs Brown's Boys on Saturday nights after it went out on Mondays.”

I knew someone was going to mention that the second I said it, but i'm saying this is a bit different because it wasn't at 9pm, it was later in the evening, and also I think you can get away with repeating a half hour comedy in a way you can't with an hour-long drama series. This is NOT me being a massive hypocrite, honest.

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Third highest ratings ever for BBC 4 according to Broadcast. But didn't the Bridge and The killing post overnights above a 1m

here is their top 10 overnights but I think there is stuff missing.”

I assume that chart only includes original British programmes rather than films and imports, although of course it's a very loose description of original as that This Is Your Life was from the sixties. It might be interesting to have a repeat run of archive This Is Your Lifes, actually, I remember BBC2 repeating some of the sixties episodes about twenty years ago.
NeilVW
02-05-2014
Pointless repeat ratings this week:

Mon - 3.53m (27.9%)
Tue - 3.07m (25.6%)
Wed - 3.24m (25.6%)
Thu - 3.60m (28% to nearest percentage point )

Sources: Bothers Bar (via this thread), ITV Media
NeilVW
02-05-2014
Perfection repeat ratings this week:

Mon - 0.80m (13.4%)
Tue - 0.80m (15.5%)
Wed - 0.80m (15.0%)
Thu - 0.9m (to nearest 0.1m )

Sources: Bothers Bar (via this thread), Bushmills
yorkie100
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Pointless ratings this week:

Mon - 3.53m (27.9%)
Tue - 3.07m (25.6%)
Wed - 3.24m (25.6%)
Thu - 3.60m (28% to nearest percentage point )

Sources: Bothers Bar (via this thread), ITV Media”

They are repeats as well I believe. Oops for Mr OGrady.
H of De Vil
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“There does seem to be a lot of filler around at the moment plus most LE on ITV/BBC seems to be quite low as well (BGT excepted). But I would agree if this is what we are generally getting now I dont know how bad the schedules are going to be in Summer.

Having said that there is a lot of good drama atm with Vera/Crimson Field/Prey/Happy Valley/Fargo.

It does seem however that ITV particularly cant put a decent schedule together - its one hit surrounded by dross. Wed/Thur/Fri are pretty poor if your not interested in Masterchef or soaps.”


This! It makes me so frustrated that they're so incompetent at putting a strong schedule together. They have plenty of programming.

The Americans should be moved to ITV3 if they get the next series. If Prey must be repeated then that should be on ITV3 as well. That is what the b*****y channel is for.

Let me entertain you is the cheapest of cheap in tat. YBF seems to do well enough on ITV2, so should be kept on there, or pushed back to earlier in the schedules (5.30pm) on Saturday.

If I were ITV I would get my hands on sme quality family movies to lead into BGT; i.e Mary Poppins, Monsters Inc, Toy Story etc. They would do around 3.5-4million in the pre BGT slot.
H of De Vil
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“They are repeats as well I believe. Oops for Mr OGrady.”

Repeats won't affect Pointless. They've made to many for the audience to remember every one.
D.M.N.
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Yet for some bizarre reason, Itv keep taking them off every few months”

It's called variety.
SamuelW
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“It's called variety.”

If you take shows off air, those shows should be ones which are underperforming. There are plenty of slots available for O'Grady and Ejector Seat to air without removing Tipping Point & The Chase from the schedules [2pm-4pm for example]. This strategy they have is very damaging to their ratings. When T.P and T.C return from their breaks, it will take them weeks to get to the levels they were rating at before going on their breaks.
Jonwo
02-05-2014
Game shows can get way with repeating as can shows like shows like Jeremy Kyle, I think they should do what they do in the US where they have a full week of new episodes then have one or two new episodes a week with repeats in the rest of the week,
Glenn A
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Excellent once again for Parking Mad with its 4million. Havent watched it but the ratings have been consistent all series. Worth bringing it back for a longer second series next year. What with that, Pound Shop Wars, Animal Odd Couples, the Animal Odd Couples spin off and shows about benefits cheats, BBC One has a solid set of Thursday night factual shows set for next year [assuming they all return]. If they can squeeze some more episodes out of MasterChef as well as promoting MC Professionals to BBC1, then that's gonna help stabilise Thursdays even more.”

Everyone hates car parking enforcement, so ratings for these shows are always good. Most people who have had a ticket issued unreasonably love to see people having a go at traffic wardens/ parking attendants.
( A little off topic, but should they come to Whitehaven, there are some car parks run by a contractor whose parking officers will issue a ticket if you are a minute late and I've seen them laugh as they issue the ticket).
SamuelW
02-05-2014
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“This! It makes me so frustrated that they're so incompetent at putting a strong schedule together. They have plenty of programming.

The Americans should be moved to ITV3 if they get the next series. If Prey must be repeated then that should be on ITV3 as well. That is what the b*****y channel is for.

Let me entertain you is the cheapest of cheap in tat. YBF seems to do well enough on ITV2, so should be kept on there, or pushed back to earlier in the schedules (5.30pm) on Saturday.

If I were ITV I would get my hands on sme quality family movies to lead into BGT; i.e Mary Poppins, Monsters Inc, Toy Story etc. They would do around 3.5-4million in the pre BGT slot.”

Itv are reducing their Saturday night budgets. Therefore it is not possible for them to air lots of big entertainment shows in addition to Got Talent to make a 'strong schedule'. The reason why they are airing repeats of Law and order Uk and Prey are that they are very cheap compared to even repeats of shows like Midsomer Murders or Lewis because they are airing in the same week as the original transmission so effectively get to air repeats for free in that same week based on the normal clauses these dramas have. Also it has been reported that Itv are paying 50% higher for the rights for the XFactor compared to the last deal, it is possible they are paying 50% higher for BGT too. Therefore, with BGT being so much more expensive these days compared to past years, they cant afford to shell out on other parts of the Saturday night schedule - notice how they only have one other original show around BGT these days where as in the past it used to be two. It is very unlikely they would be able to get their hands on family movies like those you mention because theyre expensive.
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