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Old 18-04-2014, 22:14
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now out of contract and can switch again. some posters will know i have struggled with a htc wildfire s and want ideas for a better replacement for similar money. i will go over what i think is esp bad about this phone...

touch screen is not accutate, often get wrong letters. doesnt work well with cold fingers, and using a pen doesnt work either. its so bad it usually wont swipe to take a call.

dont like android. i can any mac or pc from win3 on and can fly around those systems but android is just so limited, slow, toy like, with many features duplicated everywhere.

i used a mini ipad in shop recently and typed on that perfect on the first try, night + day compared to my htc.

battery life is shocking. with normal use it needs a full charge every day.

unstable, lots of crashes, many everyday on any website, any app. once it went totally wrong and lost everything overnight. i cant rely on it + still use my old push button sony for my main point of contact.
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Old 18-04-2014, 22:26
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i should add, its also very slow, and comes to a stop when online in anyway with a weak signal, be it wifi or 3g.

i complained bitterly re the hopeless touch screen but was told it was normal, it took me 5 goes at getting the word "was" correct.

its built in memory is too small. with just 20 mp3 tracks on it but with android on auto update it was constantly prompting low memory within the first year. i did evetything i could until there was no more options to clear up. after that i had to reset to factory to remove all the massive os updates + then disabled auto update to stop it happening again.

i can only afford about £15 a month.
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Old 18-04-2014, 22:32
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It wasnt a great phone to begin with it was a budget handset.
I know it might have put you off android but you really should try out a Motorola G in either 8gb or 16gb.Your only other option is a windows phone as iphones cant be had for £15 a month.
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Old 18-04-2014, 22:39
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Most of the problems you've described are down to the manufacturer and device and not Android itself.

That said if you don't like it your choices are basically Windows phone or nothing at all - as AxeVictim said there is basically no alternative at that price.
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Old 18-04-2014, 23:09
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Have a Moto G

Can't really tell the difference between my £100 phone and my family members Samsung Galaxy S4's which cost 4 times as much.
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Old 19-04-2014, 00:05
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you ay £15 per month so you mean in a contract? how many minutes, texts and data are you looking at?
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Old 19-04-2014, 08:36
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If you are thinking of a Samsung then the galaxy Siii mini or Galaxy ace ii are good bets. But I was wondering if the Siii was down to that price level yet?
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Old 19-04-2014, 09:10
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I got my son a S3 for £11.99 a month for Christmas. That was in a cpw flash sale though.

Moto G as has already been advised. Or the Nokia Lumia 625 is now available for about the same price. However this runs Windows Phone and if you think Android is limited and toy like then you ain't seen nothing yet.
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Old 19-04-2014, 09:49
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Best deal on cpw at the moment for the S3 seems to be 18 pounds a month. That gives you a decent 500 minutes and unlimited texts but the data allowance is a bit stingy at 500 meg a month.
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Old 19-04-2014, 11:58
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I would give the Moto G a go like others have said.

The problems you have been having are with the phone and not Android (mainly due to the price).

The Moto G has been compared to phones 4 times the price.

My wife has one and it's very snappy (she only got rid of her 2 year old Galaxy S2 and even that was not showing any of the problems your phone had).

It's either the Moto G or a low end Windows phone.
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Old 19-04-2014, 13:07
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I would give the Moto G a go like others have said.

The problems you have been having are with the phone and not Android (mainly due to the price).

The Moto G has been compared to phones 4 times the price.

My wife has one and it's very snappy (she only got rid of her 2 year old Galaxy S2 and even that was not showing any of the problems your phone had).

It's either the Moto G or a low end Windows phone.
The OPs phone is a piece of crap. Android ran very poorly on low end hardware in the past which is why it got a bad reputation with some people.
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Old 19-04-2014, 13:20
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Yet I seem to remember the HTC Wildfire getting quite good reviews back in the day. Granted the day was four or five years ago now perhaps a sign of how far weve come
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Old 19-04-2014, 19:46
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my one is not that old btw...

By far the worst piece of electronics I have ever bought. I don't want to be stuck with anything remotely as bad as that again - I cant go through it all again! Just too much hassle, there is no excuse why even entry level smart phones should be that bad imo.

Which is why I started this thread - I was thinking about getting a WIFI only Apple iPad Mini to replace it, and just use my old push button candy bar phone for contact. But I have since ruled it out as recent events have demonstrated that I need mobile internet, not limited to using it at home or a few free hot spots. I know theres 'pads with 3g and wifi, but even with the smallest they seem to big to carry about all the time. This brings me back to a smart phone, but I don't want to just swap one rubbish hardly useable phone for another one that is no better.
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Old 19-04-2014, 20:23
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How about a nice Huawei Ascend P6 for £11.99 a month on EE/Orange

See HotDeals website or app
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Old 19-04-2014, 20:32
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Moto G for an android is really the only option, or the Nokia 520 (3G) or 625 (4G) for a WP.
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Old 19-04-2014, 20:54
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my one is not that old btw...

By far the worst piece of electronics I have ever bought. I don't want to be stuck with anything remotely as bad as that again - I cant go through it all again! Just too much hassle, there is no excuse why even entry level smart phones should be that bad imo.

Which is why I started this thread - I was thinking about getting a WIFI only Apple iPad Mini to replace it, and just use my old push button candy bar phone for contact. But I have since ruled it out as recent events have demonstrated that I need mobile internet, not limited to using it at home or a few free hot spots. I know theres 'pads with 3g and wifi, but even with the smallest they seem to big to carry about all the time. This brings me back to a smart phone, but I don't want to just swap one rubbish hardly useable phone for another one that is no better.
Well take the advice here and you will be fine.
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Old 19-04-2014, 23:06
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OP should probably go into a retailer and try a new Android or the 520/625 Windows Phone.

The Nokia 520 or 625 are very nice phones to use.
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Old 19-04-2014, 23:47
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Another vote for the Moto G. It's my first smartphone, and I think it's brilliant.

I must admit I'm having a job getting used to Android - I have a book on it, which I'm working my way through. But each new facility I find makes me even more impressed.
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Old 20-04-2014, 13:03
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I also recommend the Moto G, it's an excellent phone and uses the latest Android OS. Get the 16gb version and you'll be set.
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Old 20-04-2014, 14:55
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Yeah the MotoG must be one of the best priced budget smartphones when you factor in how well it works. I got over 4 days battery out of mine recently, admittedly it wasn't used much during that time other than a few calls, some email checking and couple of other light use things.
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Old 20-04-2014, 21:03
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my phone drains in a day with it just switched on but not being used. and its always been that way.

another question, my htc really comes to a halt when it needs to switch from wifi to 3g or the other way. is this normal or just down to this phone?
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Old 20-04-2014, 21:43
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You appear to have a faulty phone. I have used a Wildfire S - and my wife still uses one. The only issues we have had that agree with yours are the memory limitations & the battery life, which are inherent in the outdated design. The issues with the screen accuracy, crashes, etc did not occur with either of our Wildfire S units.

You say yours is 'not that old', but even if you bought it recently, it is still an outdated design.

The Moto G, already mentioned, is a case in point as to the improvements made to more recent phones, battery life & memory management are much better., processor speeds are faster & the whole Android experience a lot 'slicker'.
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:40
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Instead of buying a new, budget handset, you're better off buying an older flagship. Even today, Galaxy S2s are reasonably rapid.

Furthermore, the Nexus 4 is a total bargain, especially now that its price has dropped further as a result of the release of the nexus 5
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Old 20-04-2014, 22:51
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Instead of buying a new, budget handset, you're better off buying an older flagship. Even today, Galaxy S2s are reasonably rapid.

Furthermore, the Nexus 4 is a total bargain, especially now that its price has dropped further as a result of the release of the nexus 5
A galaxy S2 is not in the same league as the modern batch of budget smartphones and is very dated. It will be totally smoked by any Nexus 4.

Moto G is a good choice.
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Old 20-04-2014, 23:04
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A galaxy S2 is not in the same league as the modern batch of budget smartphones and is very dated. It will be totally smoked by any Nexus 4.

Moto G is a good choice.
This is very much true. The galaxy s2 is now 3 years old, it won't be receiving any further updates as the product is end of life.

The OP you could do a lot worse and go with the consensus of a Moto G I have the handset and I regulaly get 2 days usage out of it. The handse will be supported for another year or so meaning you will be able to receive further android updates. For the price its the best phone on the market without question. Your experience of android will be changed as a result of using this handaet.
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