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Jamaica Inn - Over 700 complains over sound quality / mumbling
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27123439 Quote:
The number of viewer complaints over the audibility of BBC One drama Jamaica Inn has escalated, with the second episode seeing a decline in ratings. There has been threads and posts on sound quality in programmes on DS, be it mumbling, background music or the sound level between programmes and adverts etc.
A total of 252 people complained after the second episode on Tuesday, following the 546 who complained after Monday night's opening episode. Episode two drew an average audience of 4.5 million, down on the 6.1 million who tuned in for the first instalment. The three-part adaptation of Daphne du Maurier's novel concludes later. The BBC apologised on Tuesday, attributing problems viewers had understanding the dialogue to "issues with the sound levels". Some viewers said they had to use subtitles to understand the actors' apparent "mumbling", which one complainant said "was the worst [ever] heard in a TV drama". |
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Mumbling is my particular bete noir........especially as I've been told on here that it must be me going deaf.........roll eyes.
Nice to see that mumbling is becoming an issue for others as well I think the problem that it's a fashion amongst actors, like method acting, where they believe that mumbling makes the audience pay more attention to them to hear what they're saying...........they all seem to think they're Brando I'm afraid it doesn't work with me If they mumble I turn off............if they can't be bothered to enunciate then I can't be bothered to watch |
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Current thread been discussing this for two days now.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...952050&page=24 |
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Tbh I've never heard a complaint of actors not speaking properly that I've agreed with. I think lazy sound mixing is just not adequately compatible with a lot of people's more basic or older sound setups. Dialogue always seems to be the first victim in that battle.
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Mumbling is my particular bete noir........especially as I've been told on here that it must be me going deaf.........roll eyes.
Nice to see that mumbling is becoming an issue for others as well I think the problem that it's a fashion amongst actors, like method acting, where they believe that mumbling makes the audience pay more attention to them to hear what they're saying...........they all seem to think they're Brando I'm afraid it doesn't work with me If they mumble I turn off............if they can't be bothered to enunciate then I can't be bothered to watch I know where you're coming from mate. This mumbling malarkey has been around for too long now. Many an evening I would say to the wife "What did they say"? It's one of the reason's I end up on the DS forum. ![]()
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Tbh I've never heard a complaint of actors not speaking properly that I've agreed with. I think lazy sound mixing is just not adequately compatible with a lot of people's more basic or older sound setups. Dialogue always seems to be the first victim in that battle.
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The clip of the show they showed on the news was unhearable. I don't know if they exagerated it for the news but if that was the real clip then i'm not surpised there were compaints.
Did no one realise how bad this guy was? |
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Mumbling is my particular bete noir........especially as I've been told on here that it must be me going deaf.........roll eyes.
Nice to see that mumbling is becoming an issue for others as well I think the problem that it's a fashion amongst actors, like method acting, where they believe that mumbling makes the audience pay more attention to them to hear what they're saying...........they all seem to think they're Brando I'm afraid it doesn't work with me If they mumble I turn off............if they can't be bothered to enunciate then I can't be bothered to watch With you 100%. Shetland is another turn off and again from the BBC surprise surprise. I wonder what POV would have said had they been on at the moment ![]() Edit. I was surprised it was brought up on the BBC news tonight. Not a good ad for the mumbling actor
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Bad script,
Badly miscast Not even for the most part filmed in Cornwall Worst of all the sound. First time I have ever used subtitles for an English language programme. I was looking forward to this. I am going to see it through to the bitter end but it has been hugely disappointing. |
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They had over 1000 complaints tonight AFTER engineers fixed the sound problem with viewers moaning that they could now understand the dialogue but preferred it when they couldn't.
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Should this be a broadcasting thread?
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Hmmmph.
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I often have put the subtitles on for shows now because I can't hear what the characters are saying.
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This problem with poor sound levels has been an issue with BBC HD channels for years. It's down to Dolby Digital being used with no concession to the fact that a stereo mixdown of DD is virtually inaudible in comparison to non-DD audio.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27123439
There has been threads and posts on sound quality in programmes on DS, be it mumbling, background music or the sound level between programmes and adverts etc. Dont like it dont watch it. Suprised the BBC dont just delete the complaint emails and pretend they never got sent. |
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Maybe they did watch it and wanted to like it but were disappointed so decided to complain
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I haven't seen this programme. I did try to have a gander at the second episode just to find out what all the fuss was about. Tuned in at 9pm only to find the previous scheduled
programme still running. Scrolled through some other channels while waiting for it to start and hopped back a few times to check. At 9 03 they had an ad running for East Enders. Flipping heck. Why does the BBC do that instead of starting a programme on time? |
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I saw clips of this on HIGNFY last night. I didn't realize how bad it was!!
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I saw clips of this on HIGNFY last night. I didn't realize how bad it was!!
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Was really looking forward to this - love the book. HOwever, we gave up about 10 minutes in.
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Why doesnt the bbc just delete the email complaints and pretend they never got them.
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Why doesnt the bbc just delete the email complaints and pretend they never got them.
The BBC are supposed to respond to viewers' concerns and provide as high as possible technical standards on their material. Brushing their complaints under the carpet will get them nowhere except the front page of the Daily Mail. |
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Why do they feel the need to write a letter or complain by email?
Dont like it dont watch it. Suprised the BBC dont just delete the complaint emails and pretend they never got sent. |
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Just to offer a different view ... having finished the programme last night, I've said this in the programme thread:. Quote:
In terms of the artistic choice (for the speech of Sean Harris), the context for me was the speech of an entirely uneducated, emotionally illiterate bully, a man whose only esteem in life came from being seen to be strong. This is not a person who talks in soliloquies, he doesn’t speak in sentences. Unless he really wants to communicate – usually with a woman - his speech is grunted and semi Neanderthal. Part of his language is violence, physical or emotional.
On top of that, many people unconfident in communication mumble. He’s also Cornish, in the 19th century. As I’ve said, I respect the artistic choices and didn’t mind using captions as it seemed pretty appropriate (and I'm used to it from the Scandie drama). I do think we should be way past the RADA faux-middle class accent of the 70s and 80s. That really is cringing. |
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Whether its the sound mixing or the actors, isn't the director's job to make sure that the programme is of broadcast quality?
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