The fact that musically and lyrically it sounds like a school music project based on the theme 'make a song that sounds like Kaye Bush would record if she woke up and had lost all her talent'.

We all have different taste.
When I first heard it I thought it was like a student project writing a song for a CBBC fantasy program.
I still don't like it.

I don't mind if people don't like it. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and I respect that not everybody is going to like Children of the Universe. We won't all like the same thing. However, our own opinion doesn't really matter considering we can't vote for ourselves.

But if you still live in the mindset of "Europe hates us. We are going to come last. We will get nil points again. We should just pull out and stop wasting money" then you really need to re-think your opinion of the contest. Also the whole "nil points" is a tired excuse. It happened over 10 years ago, people need to get over it.

The years we did poorly in Eurovision - You can't say we didn't deserve it. 2009 we put the work in and came 5th. 2011 we put the work in again, but Blue let us down with their Jury performance, Europe supported us with the Televote. So far, we're looking very likely to place Top 10, possibly Top 5 if things keep going our way. With the amount of support Molly has got from Europe, some people even consider a UK win, but I'm not sure yet

Its not really a fact though is it? Its more opinionated.

No shit Sherlock, as is 99% of the discussion on here.

To be fair you did refer to it as fact in your post.

Then try not to refer to it as a fact.

Just out of interest, how is me saying 'it's a poor tune' any different to you saying 'Strange Alien is a good one'?

Because its an opinion, I just didn't state it as a fact in my post.

No I'm not letting you get away with that. Me saying that something is poor is exactly the same as you saying that something is good and you know it. It seems that you have no problem with people expressing their opinion (presented as fact or not) as long as it is the same as yours, hence you not jumping all over someone stating 'At last the UK has entered a good song', opinion presented as fact.

Not at all, I just don't like someone speaking as if its a fact on an opinion based forum, if you're going to criticise at least have a valid criticism rather than saying 'Derrr it's shit' 'because it just is' etc, say what exactly is your problem with the song is.

The song is well sung but comes off as immature, especially the choir and children of the world bit. Quite frankly it's a tad embarrassing but of a different caliber to stuff of yesteryear.


Who cares what you like? You're not the forum police so get over it. If he wants to come in here and call the song crap he has every right to do so. Some things don't need explaining.

Then its not a valid argument.

Who said he's looking for approval? Why does putting your opinion forth make it any more valid? Either way it's an opinion, nobody is coming on here talking "fact" that's impossible unless it IS fact. No song is factually shit or good I think most people know that.

You just can't seem to handle criticism of the song. FACT

Nobody? again, at least have valid criticism for a song like you've done in your post instead of the 'Derrrr its crap' without giving a reason as to why you think its crap.

i have to admit, having seen the performance on graham norton, i have to say i am coming round to the song. it sounds alot better live put it that way, which is good i suppose as thats the nature of the contest.

Love it! For the 1st time in many years I think we're actually in the running. Has to be top ten at least?

GOOD LUCK!

I'm sure it's been said before, but since the break-up of the Soviet Union, the chances of winning have dramatically decreased. We started of by having a block vote system mainly due to technology not at the time being able to deal with realtime voting. This led to quite often a politically bias vote from some countries.

While this still happens, the introduction of public voting has TO AN EXTENT reduced that. However, the increase in the number of countries and regional tastes makes the likelihood of a win small, not zero, but small. The Scandinavian countries have similar tastes as do the Latin countries Spain, Italy etc. and of course the former Eastern Block. It's a bit like us having a England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland entry. It wouldn't mean we'd win but it would increase our chances.

I would also say that although we're not hated in Europe, we are just seen as on the periphery.

The other interesting fact is the number of countries now singing in English in order to maximize votes outside their heartlands.

It's a decent enough song, but concentrate on a good chart song and if it happens to do well in EV then so much the better.

Heard it a few times and still can't remember the tune!. Worst euro song ever IMO. Why can't we get a current chart star to perform. Someone write a great catchy song. Never like any of our entries. All the other countries seem to put on a better performance and have a really catchy song

Who in the current chart do you suggest? They'd face the same problem as X-Factor/Voice winners; e.g. the audience who watch Eurovision are not generally the same demographic as those who buy singles.

After you pestered me to do so, I explained why in post #26.

I think "worst Eurovision song ever" is a bit of an exaggeration. If you prefer Scooch, Josh Dubovie or Jemini to Molly's song then fair play, but I'd consider Children of the Universe to be a huge step up for us. Why do we need a current chart star? I think people need to realise most countries aren't sending their best singers, and if they are, they aren't guaranteed a win. Look at Patricia Kaas - Huge European star and only managed to come 8th. Most countries are sending nobodies, or runners up from The Voice/X-Factor of their respective countries. You can't really pull the 'better performance' card out yet when we haven't even had a first rehearsal yet, and by the look at the ones who have - they haven't been mindblowing.

Why do people have to write Molly off before she even begins?

That surprises me. The tune was stuck in my head after the first listen. It's our best song in a decade. Molly also sings the song really well live, it's better live than the studio version.

Thanks BBC for the first time in years we are back in the mix and we deserve to be on the correct side of the scoreboard.

She apparently did BRILLIANTLY in her 1st Rehersal today and got a massive cheer in the press room after and she is 3rd in the bookies faves!

Hate to say I told you so, but I told you it is a shit song.