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Old 25-04-2014, 16:37
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So apparently Mariah is getting ready to drop her album out of the blue like Beyonce. However, surely the whole point of doing this is that people won't be expecting it.

Now everyone is expecting Mariah's new music as this has spread pretty quick all over the internet...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...onc-style.html

http://www.popjustice.com/thenews/ma...-album/126567/

http://uk.eonline.com/news/535622/ma...s&dlvrit=48939

Having said this, I'm looking forward to new Mariah music, #Beautiful was one of the best singles of last year imo. Kinda hoping there'll be more of this and less of Triumphant.
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Old 25-04-2014, 16:46
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Oh, I thought you meant go out with a black rapper.
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Old 25-04-2014, 16:52
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Oh, I thought you meant go out with a black rapper.
Nah that would belong in the showbiz thread probably
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Old 25-04-2014, 16:52
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So apparently Mariah is getting ready to drop her album out of the blue like Beyonce. However, surely the whole point of doing this is that people won't be expecting it.
I think the point of it is to be a digital exclusive on iTunes prior to having a physical release. It's not to drop a surprise album because the physical release date has been known for quite some time (May 5th in the UK).

She's just keeping the info about the album under wraps until the iTunes exclusive is released, then people will know what to expect when the physical drops too.
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Old 25-04-2014, 17:57
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what drop a mediocre album and proclaim herself ''queen'' . But no seriously smart move like Bey Cary has had diminishing returns and has the fanbase and anticipation there to soak up immediate sails that will inevitably tail off but will give her hopefully a career overhaul sans Bey.
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Old 25-04-2014, 18:26
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I'm a huge Mariah fan, Beautiful was a great duet. But the other singles the art of letting go, Triumphant, eternal (be mine) and Almost Home are all only ok. I don't think I've too high hopes for this album. But I hope I'm proved wrong
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Old 26-04-2014, 00:58
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She's such a copycat. When has she ever done anything original?
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Old 26-04-2014, 03:29
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She's such a copycat. When has she ever done anything original?
You've got to be kidding?

Mariah pretty much moulded modern day R&B music as we know it and was the first major artist to have crossover hits which fused Hip Hop, R&B and Pop genres. Without Mariah's pioneering music style Beyonce and co wouldn't be making the kind of music they do.

Also not to mention that pretty much every singer imitates Mariah's vocal stylings nowadays, even if they don't know it. Runs, Trills and Mellisma are all trademark Mariah vocal styles that are heard in just about every song in popular music since the 90s.

Even if you are not a fan, there is no way on earth that you can deny that Mariah Carey is a true original and trend setter, not follower.




On the matter of the exclusive digital release, I would be concerned as Mariah's physical album sales always eclipse her digital ones. I think an exclusive digital release over maybe a weekend would be cool to help build momentum, but a physical version would have to come out a couple of days later. Her fan base appreciate physical releases, I can vouch for that.
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Old 26-04-2014, 08:11
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it's not much of a surprise really
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Old 26-04-2014, 13:40
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She's such a copycat. When has she ever done anything original?
What a ridiculous question. All of todays big female popstars name her as a massive influence.

The whole "doing a Beyonce" thing is ridiculous...she's given the fans this pre-release notification so they know it's coming - so it's a totally different strategy from Beyonce.

This isn't about the surprise like Beyonce's album was, this is about preventing any information from leaking (like the original artwork and The Art Of Letting Go title did last year). Hence the "all at once" digital release so we get the artwork, title, tracklist and music at the same time. (That's why there will be a digital release before a physical release - as the info would leak as soon as the physical production starts.)

It's not about doing what Beyonce did, it's about using elements of the Beyonce's approach to do what she wants to do.
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Old 26-04-2014, 16:49
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You've got to be kidding?

Mariah pretty much moulded modern day R&B music as we know it and was the first major artist to have crossover hits which fused Hip Hop, R&B and Pop genres. Without Mariah's pioneering music style Beyonce and co wouldn't be making the kind of music they do.

Also not to mention that pretty much every singer imitates Mariah's vocal stylings nowadays, even if they don't know it. Runs, Trills and Mellisma are all trademark Mariah vocal styles that are heard in just about every song in popular music since the 90s.

Even if you are not a fan, there is no way on earth that you can deny that Mariah Carey is a true original and trend setter, not follower.




On the matter of the exclusive digital release, I would be concerned as Mariah's physical album sales always eclipse her digital ones. I think an exclusive digital release over maybe a weekend would be cool to help build momentum, but a physical version would have to come out a couple of days later. Her fan base appreciate physical releases, I can vouch for that.
Is this a serious post or a parody as it's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
Mariah Carey is as generic as they come. She jumped on whatever bandwagon going, wailed and screeched her way through some of the blandest songs known to mankind and somehow managed to become inexplicably popular.
All she ever did far R&B was water it down into bland, pop r&b lite which bore no relation to actual rhythm and blues music. Maybe, without her, artists like Beyonce would be making real r&b or soul music rather than corporate watered down pop pap for the masses.

As for the BIB - Yes, most people can deny that is it's laughably inaccurate.
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Old 26-04-2014, 20:45
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Is this a serious post or a parody as it's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
Mariah Carey is as generic as they come. She jumped on whatever bandwagon going, wailed and screeched her way through some of the blandest songs known to mankind and somehow managed to become inexplicably popular.
All she ever did far R&B was water it down into bland, pop r&b lite which bore no relation to actual rhythm and blues music. Maybe, without her, artists like Beyonce would be making real r&b or soul music rather than corporate watered down pop pap for the masses.

As for the BIB - Yes, most people can deny that is it's laughably inaccurate.
Well, she's made a lot of money wailing and screeching, and inspired everyone from Rihanna to Beyonce to Annie Lenox. You obviously don't like Mariah, but to deny her achievements is absolutely absurd. How many artists successfully manage a successful career that spans two decades? 99% of them burn out before they get close to one.

And that bandwagon comment is incorrect and very hypocritical. If Mariah has jumped on a bandwagon, so has Beyonce. In fact, Run the World was a fairly laughable attempt to jump on a bandwagon.
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Old 26-04-2014, 21:03
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Is this a serious post or a parody as it's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
Mariah Carey is as generic as they come. She jumped on whatever bandwagon going, wailed and screeched her way through some of the blandest songs known to mankind and somehow managed to become inexplicably popular.
All she ever did far R&B was water it down into bland, pop r&b lite which bore no relation to actual rhythm and blues music. Maybe, without her, artists like Beyonce would be making real r&b or soul music rather than corporate watered down pop pap for the masses.

As for the BIB - Yes, most people can deny that is it's laughably inaccurate.
she didn't do that. she just sings on the songs that other people write and produce for her. just like beyonce. whether they have a hit or not is based on the work of others. both are good looking females that can sing and that's about it. they've both made a shitload of money so could go away and make a decent record for critical acclaim instead of trying to have another bunch of hit singles as they can choose who they want to work with, but i don't think either of them has any interest in that
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Old 26-04-2014, 21:13
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Well, she's made a lot of money wailing and screeching, and inspired everyone from Rihanna to Beyonce to Annie Lenox. You obviously don't like Mariah, but to deny her achievements is absolutely absurd. How many artists successfully manage a successful career that spans two decades? 99% of them burn out before they get close to one.

And that bandwagon comment is incorrect and very hypocritical. If Mariah has jumped on a bandwagon, so has Beyonce. In fact, Run the World was a fairly laughable attempt to jump on a bandwagon.
Where have I said Beyonce is any different to Mariah? Both purveyors of safe, tame, vanilla watered down pop pap and to call either R&B shows no understanding of what the genre actually is.

Yes, she may have sold a shedload of records but so have Westlife and they're as generic as it gets. All her success shows is that safe sells and to credit her with reinventing genres or being an innovator is a joke imo.

Tbh, 95% of her career has passed me by as my music of choice is soul, real r&b and soulful dance and her music wouldn't be played in the places I frequent
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Old 26-04-2014, 21:25
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I've not cared for Mariah since the late 1990s when she first went all RnB.

I also hope every artist isn't going to "do a Beyonce" in regard to just dropping an album on us because while it was novel and exciting when Beyonce did it, it's already old hat now and they'll just look like desperate copycats. Beyonce's album was also very good, which helped keep the buzz going. When was the last time Mariah released an album anyone was excited about?
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Old 26-04-2014, 21:32
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Where have I said Beyonce is any different to Mariah? Both purveyors of safe, tame, vanilla watered down pop pap and to call either R&B shows no understanding of what the genre actually is.

Yes, she may have sold a shedload of records but so have Westlife and they're as generic as it gets. All her success shows is that safe sells and to credit her with reinventing genres or being an innovator is a joke imo.

Tbh, 95% of her career has passed me by as my music of choice is soul, real r&b and soulful dance and her music wouldn't be played in the places I frequent
Did I even mention the word R&B in my post...? Like it or not, she's achieved a lot. Whether that's playing it safe or not, it's still a heck of a lot more impressive than most other watered down pop stars out there. And FYI, I appreciate Mariah as a singer...not an artist. Her current work shows that if you strip away her voice, the content leaves much to be desired. Mariah is influential to the music industry because of her voice, not her songwriting. Furthermore, I find your attitude very elitist. You speak of R&B/Soul in such person terms, the fact that you find Mariah's attempts at the genre passable therefore means it's not authentic. Get over yourself.
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Old 26-04-2014, 21:35
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If Mariah sells more albums than Beyonce and this way of releasing an album becomes the norm, you can bet your bottom dollar in 20 years time her fans will be saying Mariah changed the industry and was the first to do it this way.
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Old 26-04-2014, 21:39
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Imagine if your expectations of a pop star were so low that you stanned for Beyoncé?
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Old 26-04-2014, 22:34
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I prefer Mariah to Beyonce. But there's no way Mariah will eclipse the "BEYONCE" album with her new digital release! Mariah would be considered a has been to many teenagers now who would be the main purchasers of digital downloads. If it is a good album I still don't think she'll pull an "Emancipation" style comeback. A lot of people despise her and she is a bit of a parody of her former self at times. Though I would love her to release a great album with quality hit singles again
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Old 26-04-2014, 22:46
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LOL, people always have to make that comment that she's wahling or screaming. Would love to see those who dish shade do those amazing vocals! Can't wait for the new album!
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Old 26-04-2014, 23:31
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she didn't do that. she just sings on the songs that other people write and produce for her. just like beyonce. whether they have a hit or not is based on the work of others. both are good looking females that can sing and that's about it. they've both made a shitload of money so could go away and make a decent record for critical acclaim instead of trying to have another bunch of hit singles as they can choose who they want to work with, but i don't think either of them has any interest in that
You should do your research. People can dislike and deride Mariah but what most don't know is she has written the majority of her own work. Her second album lyrically all her as were all her albums up until the early noughties.

I said this on another thread what sets her apart is she is so hands on but never gets the credit for it. People she her like whitney an Celine pretty voice nice face does little work.
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Old 26-04-2014, 23:50
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Well, she's made a lot of money wailing and screeching, and inspired everyone from Rihanna to Beyonce to Annie Lenox. You obviously don't like Mariah, but to deny her achievements is absolutely absurd. How many artists successfully manage a successful career that spans two decades? 99% of them burn out before they get close to one.

And that bandwagon comment is incorrect and very hypocritical. If Mariah has jumped on a bandwagon, so has Beyonce. In fact, Run the World was a fairly laughable attempt to jump on a bandwagon.
What bandwagon was that then? And what relevance does any of that have to the previous poster's point?

Imagine if your expectations of a pop star were so low that you stanned for Beyoncé?
You're the only one that's fixated on her in this thread.
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Old 27-04-2014, 01:50
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So Mariah's going to claim she wrote something when she actually hasn't.
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Old 27-04-2014, 07:57
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So Mariah's going to claim she wrote something when she actually hasn't.
She does write her own songs apart from the odd cover. Don't hate the talent.
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Old 27-04-2014, 08:29
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She does write her own songs apart from the odd cover. Don't hate the talent.
Think they were being sarcastic in the fact that its beyonce that does that and the two have been compared throughout the thread
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