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Old 07-05-2014, 21:35
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How Rita Ora got so successful is something that I'm constantly scratching my head over. Bar a couple of songs like RIP and Radioactive, I find her music unlistenable rubbish. But I feel that way about many popular artists, like Will I Am, Avicii, and countless others who are treated like music royalty.

Maybe I'm just too old to appreciate most chart stuff now?
If the age on your profile is true then i'm 14 years older than you and I still like plenty of chart stuff. Musical tastes aren't age-dependent IMO. They tend to ebb and flow as time goes by. If you're someone who only really restricts yourself to one or two genres then I do think you'll not really "get" other artists or genres of music you don't follow.

I do think it's a bit disingenuous for people to be "scratching their heads" about why Rita Ora is successful though. It's quite obvious - she's released music that people like and people have bought. There are people outside DS forums who buy music as well
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Old 08-05-2014, 22:48
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If the age on your profile is true then i'm 14 years older than you and I still like plenty of chart stuff. Musical tastes aren't age-dependent IMO. They tend to ebb and flow as time goes by. If you're someone who only really restricts yourself to one or two genres then I do think you'll not really "get" other artists or genres of music you don't follow.

I do think it's a bit disingenuous for people to be "scratching their heads" about why Rita Ora is successful though. It's quite obvious - she's released music that people like and people have bought. There are people outside DS forums who buy music as well
I don't snub chart music and I'd hate anyone to think I'm a music snob, but I do find more and more of it goes over my head and I struggle to understand the popularity of many currently fashionable artists. When I was younger I would listen to any old rubbish, so that's why I brought age into the conversation.

As far as your second paragraph goes, that's just a difference of opinion. Considering there are quite a few posts about how people don't "get" Rita Ora I'm not alone. Digital Spy may reflect only a minority of people, but those people are real and shouldn't have their opinions written off.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:39
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I don't snub chart music and I'd hate anyone to think I'm a music snob, but I do find more and more of it goes over my head and I struggle to understand the popularity of many currently fashionable artists. When I was younger I would listen to any old rubbish, so that's why I brought age into the conversation.

As far as your second paragraph goes, that's just a difference of opinion. Considering there are quite a few posts about how people don't "get" Rita Ora I'm not alone. Digital Spy may reflect only a minority of people, but those people are real and shouldn't have their opinions written off.
I agree with you there. On both points, but especially the first.
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Old 09-05-2014, 14:37
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I don't snub chart music and I'd hate anyone to think I'm a music snob, but I do find more and more of it goes over my head and I struggle to understand the popularity of many currently fashionable artists. When I was younger I would listen to any old rubbish, so that's why I brought age into the conversation.

As far as your second paragraph goes, that's just a difference of opinion. Considering there are quite a few posts about how people don't "get" Rita Ora I'm not alone. Digital Spy may reflect only a minority of people, but those people are real and shouldn't have their opinions written off.
I'm certainly not saying you're snubbing chart music, merely offering my feelings on how I feel people's tastes in music evolve and change over time.

I'm certainly not "writing off people's feelings" either. I'm just countering this rather silly train of thought where people claim to be "mystified" by Ora's success. I get that she, for whatever reason, irritates the majority on DS but why not just call a spade and spade and say "I don't like her or her music" rather than this passive aggressive nonsense that it's "mystifying" why she's successful.
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Old 09-05-2014, 14:56
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I don't know why she annoys me as much as she does? I just find her so average. She's no sound of her own as none of her songs sound the same and all sound like b-sides for other people.

Also the constant (Beyonce) namedropping (Jay-Z) is super (Calvin Harris) annyoing
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Old 09-05-2014, 17:43
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Also the constant (Beyonce) namedropping (Jay-Z) is super (Calvin Harris) annyoing
That's a very valid point. I read an interview with her yesterday to see if it might endear her to me, and I now know plenty about the aforementioned three but still very little about Rita.
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Old 09-05-2014, 20:16
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this passive aggressive nonsense that it's "mystifying" why she's successful.
Who is being passive aggressive or nonsense? Why is it invalid to you for people to be questioning her success?

The only person who has an attitude of any sort in this thread, that I have noticed, is you. Sorry, but I find your posts here really off-putting.
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Old 09-05-2014, 21:36
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Who is being passive aggressive or nonsense? Why is it invalid to you for people to be questioning her success?

The only person who has an attitude of any sort in this thread, that I have noticed, is you. Sorry, but I find your posts here really off-putting.
You're getting the wrong impression from what i've been posting. As I tried to explain, I have no problem with people saying they dislike her or her music - musical tastes are as subjective as many other things.

What i find disingenuous is the notion that her success is "mystifying". it's implying that your taste in music is so special, you can't possibly fathom why an artist such as rita ora could be successful.

(And I mean a general "your", not you specifically GL)

As I said, it's patently obvious why she's successful but we have to have this ridiculously theatrical "but I just don't get it" notion. I'd apply exactly the same argument to a group like One Direction. Personally I can't stand them, but I certainly wouldn't claim i'm "mystified" by their success because I can see exactly why they've been successful.
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Old 09-05-2014, 21:48
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I think you'll find that she keeps appearing in the newspapers for exactly the same reason that certain singers constantly have new threads posted about them on here: a very active PR team which is paid to keep her constantly in the limelight.
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Old 09-05-2014, 22:33
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I think you'll find that she keeps appearing in the newspapers for exactly the same reason that certain singers constantly have new threads posted about them on here: a very active PR team which is paid to keep her constantly in the limelight.
Why can people not comprehend this?
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Old 10-05-2014, 00:40
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You're getting the wrong impression from what i've been posting. As I tried to explain, I have no problem with people saying they dislike her or her music - musical tastes are as subjective as many other things.

What i find disingenuous is the notion that her success is "mystifying". it's implying that your taste in music is so special, you can't possibly fathom why an artist such as rita ora could be successful.
I'm sorry, but there's just something about your posts in this thread that make me feel like I'm being "told off".

Also, we're not being disingenous when it comes to our confusion about Rita Ora's success. You just think we are because you don't agree with us. I'm getting tired of you insisting my feelings aren't genuine or something.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:52
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I'm sorry, but there's just something about your posts in this thread that make me feel like I'm being "told off".

Also, we're not being disingenous when it comes to our confusion about Rita Ora's success. You just think we are because you don't agree with us. I'm getting tired of you insisting my feelings aren't genuine or something.
Ok, if we're going to go there i'll take my leave. Well done
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Old 10-05-2014, 13:12
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Ok, if we're going to go there i'll take my leave. Well done
I'm being very sincere when I say I don't understand your attitude - especially in your latest reply (if your "well done" comment is some sort of suggestion I've unfairly shut you down, I would never do that to another FM) - but if you don't want to continue talking to me fair enough. I don't think we're going to get anywhere anyway and I'm fine with agreeing to disagree.
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Old 10-05-2014, 14:55
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I'm being very sincere when I say I don't understand your attitude - especially in your latest reply (if your "well done" comment is some sort of suggestion I've unfairly shut you down, I would never do that to another FM) - but if you don't want to continue talking to me fair enough. I don't think we're going to get anywhere anyway and I'm fine with agreeing to disagree.
Ok, i'm firstly going to apologise for being snarky earlier on. That certainly wasn't the intent so i'm certainly sorry for that.

Any "attitude" you have perceived from my posts is merely an annoyance at the continued ignoring of the obvious.

Part of the dictionary definition of "disingenuous" is "typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does." which, obviously IMO, clearly applies here.

If you have even a passing interest in popular music of any description, you'll be aware that most artists have "teams". The artist in question will be signed to a management agency and they will be assigned the aforementioned team to handle every aspect of their career from getting them invites to celebrity parties to managing their twitter feed to calling them a cab when they're out on the town. It really could be anything.

Rita Ora likely has such a "team". They'll be responsible for maintaining her public profile in whatever way that entails. That's one aspect of why she's famous.

The second aspect is the music she releases. I won't attempt to pigeonhole it into any specific genres because I don't really do genres myself, but it's clearly aimed at a certain demographic who have responded favourably to that - hence her number one album and number one single.

The fact that her music doesn't resonate with you isn't "mystifying". It's simply down to different tastes in music. It's down to you most likely being outside her target demographic.

I could use Westlife as a good example. One of the few groups I genuinely can't stand. They make bland, inspid power ballads and if I ever hear any of their music on the radio, I'll change the channel. They have, consequently, sold millions of records and have made an exorbitant amount of money through sold out live tours as well.

But i'm not about to sit here and say "Why do people treat Westlife like superstars?" or that i'm "mystified" by their success because it's perfectly obvious. Their music and overall image is targeted at a specific demographic and age group and i'm simply not in that. Their music does not resonate with me in any way.

Now if i continued to protest that I was "mystified" by Westlife's success, I'd fully expect someone to call me disingenuous because i'd be deliberately ignoring the obvious reasons behind their success when I knew full well what they are.

This is the reasoning behind my irritation over the attitude towards Rita Ora. As I have previously said, I have no issue whatsoever if people said they didn't like her or didn't like her music - I accept that unreservedly - but to continue to claim to be "mystified" is, IMHO, no more than having a dig for the sake of having a dig.

I hope that explains my side of things a bit better anyway.
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Old 10-05-2014, 18:05
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I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to music but I agree with the majority here. I'm not a huge fan of Rita Ora at all. I think she is lacking identity and you can also hear that in the music she brings out. If I heard Rita's music on the radio I wouldn't be able to tell it was her and I don't think that is a good thing when being an artist. I also find Jessie J annoying, however she has an identity and even though she can be over the top (Jessie) she still comes across as she works hard at her craft. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying Rita Ora hasn't worked hard to get were she is but it sure doesn't come across like she has. Rita comes off as unlikeable, cocky and not humble at all. I don't mean to be negative about her but she's an artist and when getting people to buy into your music/image, you have to be somewhat likeable? and I find she isn't.
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Old 10-05-2014, 18:13
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I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to music but I agree with the majority here. I'm not a huge fan of Rita Ora at all. I think she is lacking identity and you can also hear that in the music she brings out. If I heard Rita's music on the radio I wouldn't be able to tell it was her and I don't think that is a good thing when being an artist.
This. It happens with every song. I had no idea it was her singing I Will Never Let You Down.
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Old 14-05-2014, 16:46
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I think you'll find that she keeps appearing in the newspapers for exactly the same reason that certain singers constantly have new threads posted about them on here: a very active PR team which is paid to keep her constantly in the limelight.
Absolutely nailed it - I started a thread on DS called "What is the point of Rita Ora" and made exactly the same point.
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Old 14-05-2014, 19:32
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I am suffering her on The One Show at the moment, she was born in Pristina formally in Yugoslavia. Moved to the UK when she was one. Not that interested in her facts, but it adds to my disliking her,empty headed lack of knowledge.
Stephen Mangan was talking about a acting job in Estonia many years ago. She had never heard of Estonia. It can't be that far away.
Considering she has gone back to her birth place recently as well. She comes across as tarty, clingy, pig ignorant loud and rough.
Which she is confirming to me on this program.
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Old 14-05-2014, 21:27
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She seems very...dumb. And I don't mean that in a nasty way either, it's just how it is. I saw her on The One Show too and was unimpressed but clearly she has some appeal because of the career she now has.

It just baffles me but whose to say she really rises and has hit after hit, OR in 5 years time she's disappeared. You can never tell
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Old 14-05-2014, 21:32
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She's absolutely horrendous and trashy, I had to put up with her on Sweat The Small Stuff the other day and she made it unwatchable. I hate her music, her voice and basically everything about her. She's even going to ruin the new Fifty Shades of Grey film.

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Old 15-05-2014, 01:46
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Agree with the people who say she's got no musical identity/image, she's just so *bland*.

If she hadn't slept her way to the top she would have vanished ages ago.
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Old 15-05-2014, 11:26
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Lol, what an embarrassment this thread is.


Did I really read something like, she is Kosovo-Albanian, so she is trash?

Jezzuuss! You would think she nailed Jesus to the cross.


For all who are interested in music,

here is a new song, Get A Little Closer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U36UKjbDjWQ


PS
By the way, she just will get her fourth number one hit this week, a achievement that just only reached by this ex-Spice Girl.

But hey, according to some of you, I bet she was eating a lot of dicks to get that many sales.
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Old 15-05-2014, 12:12
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Lol, what an embarrassment this thread is.


Did I really read something like, she is Kosovo-Albanian, so she is trash?

Jezzuuss! You would think she nailed Jesus to the cross.



For all who are interested in music,

here is a new song, Get A Little Closer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U36UKjbDjWQ


PS
By the way, she just will get her fourth number one hit this week, a achievement that just only reached by this ex-Spice Girl.

But hey, according to some of you, I bet she was eating a lot of dicks to get that many sales.
PPS
I shouldn't wonder if I see her in the near future, punching and kicking like a hoodrat, in a lift
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Old 15-05-2014, 13:12
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Hope she doesn't get to No 1, the song is complete rubbish!

Calvin move on!
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Old 15-05-2014, 13:17
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Hope she doesn't get to No 1, the song is complete rubbish!

Calvin move on!
You will be disapointed and I like it.

http://kworb.net/popuk/
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