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EE: Why is Cora so poor?
She's an elderly woman who no doubt gets her pension and help with rent if she needs it from the government. Also wouldn't she have saved money up over the years? It always confuses me when in real life, and in soaps where you see elderly people who seem to have no money at all, especially with pension and savings over the years etc;
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Cora most likely wasted all her savings on booze and ciggies, I bet she regrets it now! I bet she thinks, Oh f*ck!
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She's always in the pub and buying bottles of spirits. She might not have any savings and a pension doesn't go far. As I've said previously in another thread I'd like to see Cora come into some money on the lottery or scratch card, not necessarily millions like Janine but enough to make her more secure for some time and for a flat. She could flat share with Stan and Aunt Babe and get some rent money from them.
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Cora is 67- hardly old age today.
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Cora is 67- hardly old age today.
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She's an elderly woman who no doubt gets her pension and help with rent if she needs it from the government. Also wouldn't she have saved money up over the years? It always confuses me when in real life, and in soaps where you see elderly people who seem to have no money at all, especially with pension and savings over the years etc;
![]() and this is soapland after all - Sinead in Hollyoaks turned to prostitution instead of asking for/getting financial help or asking her family when she needed money for Katie - it makes for a more dramatic SL ![]()
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She's an elderly woman who no doubt gets her pension and help with rent if she needs it from the government. Also wouldn't she have saved money up over the years? It always confuses me when in real life, and in soaps where you see elderly people who seem to have no money at all, especially with pension and savings over the years etc;
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I very much doubt she is on any more than the minimum state pension - she won't have worked enough to build up NI stamps for the top one. It's only about 70 quid a week which really doesn't go very far - especially for a chain smoker who likes to drink as much as Cora does. She probably managed to cope when she was living rent free and having all her bills (electricity, food, water etc) at Max's but now she is out 'on her own' it'll be much harder. Even if she wasn't 'wasting' her money on booze and fags, it is realistic she'd be struggling.
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I think she would have a lot more than £70 quid a week to live on! If she only qualifies for a basic pension, then her pension would be topped up with Pension Credit to £148 a week, that is the minimum amount the government says a single pensioner needs to live on. So she's not bad off! If she is still working at launderette, then it doesn't make sense, as she would lose the extra money. I always felt it unrealistic that Cora would even want a job, as she's a lazy old sod.
![]() Her earnings at the Launderette would be taken into account - except she's bound not to be declaring them. |
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My mother only gets 78 quid a week and she has full NI stamps due to having worked until she was 58 and retirement age was still 60 back then. Granted my father is still alive but it seems really unfair that there is such a big difference between the single and married allowance. The only other thing she gets is the winter fuel allowance.
Her earnings at the Launderette would be taken into account - except she's bound not to be declaring them.
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She smokes and drinks. A pack of cigarettes is almost £7, one pack a day adds up to £49 a week. Then another £30 or so a week on booze and that's £80 down the drain.
Now there's nothing wrong with today's pensions but if you throw half of it away every week, then you're going to struggle. As for savings, some silly people don't bother, and that doesn't just apply to the elderly. |
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Because she drinks like a fish and smokes like a chimney. It all adds up on a daily basis.
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I would have thought her wages would have to go through the books, unless Mr Popadopolous? would be paying her cash in her hand, not many employers would do that . I agree about what you're saying about a married woman's pension, however possibly you're father get's a full pension , and both are added together. Suppose we'd better not start a debate about pensions on here!
![]() Yes, her wages should go through the books and I agree most employers won't do otherwise but I wouldn't put it past Cora to have persuaded him to go cash in hand or even using false documents for either benefits or her payroll. It depends how big Mr opydopylous's bisness is whether he'd spot a false, NI number (she could easily know Rainie's for example) orhas to inspect close Inland Revenue inspections after quarterly submissions. He could have her down as a sub contractor assuming she does her own tax - there are quite a few loopholes that can be 'illegally' exploited. I've done Payroll including schedule DS for freelancers in my varied working life. |
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She smokes and drinks. A pack of cigarettes is almost £7, one pack a day adds up to £49 a week. Then another £30 or so a week on booze and that's £80 down the drain.
Now there's nothing wrong with today's pensions but if you throw half of it away every week, then you're going to struggle. As for savings, some silly people don't bother, and that doesn't just apply to the elderly. |
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I'm not sure i'd say there is nothing wrong with the amount of the state pension but it certainly isn'y enough to be squandering half (of not more) on booze and fags. Hard to give up when you are addicted to them as Cora def is to fags and possibly to alcohol as well (in a rather different way to Phil) but they are considered luxury items and thus not included in the calculations for what is a reasonable amount for a person to live on eaxh week.
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I get a state pension and I certainly don't think it's bad compared to the benefits that younger people have to live on. I have a private pension as well and made the effort to save throughout my life, so I don't rely on it completely, but plenty of my friends do, and if I had to as well I certainly wouldn't struggle.
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That's good to hear. I do agree with you about it compared to some of the other benefits for younger people. It probably depends on a lot of factors - whether you do have any other income, what bills you're still having to pay out for (not everyone has finished their mortgage at that age) or still have children or grandchildren relying on them for help (increasingly the case). If solely for food, heating etc it probably is enough to survive but i'd hardly call it generous.
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She's skint because she's a thoughtless, wasteful , foolish old witch .
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She's skint because she's a thoughtless, wasteful , foolish old witch .
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She spent it all on Silvikrin and Bacardi. Of course a fe¢kless old soak like her won't have saved anything, but why now, why now is she all of a sudden so poor she needs to steal? Have I missed a change of circumstance?
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She's skint because she's a thoughtless, wasteful , foolish old witch .
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Fags, booze, hair spray and her primarni valour tracksuit ain't cheap ya know!
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She's skint because she's a thoughtless, wasteful , foolish old witch .
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Cora's so poor she uses her cigarette lighter as a heater!
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and this is soapland after all - Sinead in Hollyoaks turned to prostitution instead of asking for/getting financial help or asking her family when she needed money for Katie - it makes for a more dramatic SL 
