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Old 08-05-2014, 20:54
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I agree would not be surprised if Phil Wye removes that Tweet.
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Old 08-05-2014, 21:08
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I don't think anyone likes Alan, he's one of my fave commentators and 606 is a much poorer show without him but from everything I've read over the years, he's got very few friends in the industry.

Him & Mike Ingham clearly get on (there's no way they couldn't given all the games they've done, it wouldn't work) & he seems to go well with Lawro & Jimmy Armfield, Waddle & Savage but that's about it. They may not like him either of course.

On Mike Ingham, he's the best radio commentator of my generation (I'm too young to remember Jones & Butler properly) although John Murray might over take him. He's very much the 'Martin Tyler of radio' except the last few years haven't been quite as good as his peak but none the less, he will be missed. He comes across as a really good bloke, I hope 5Live do some tribute for him at some point
I think Stan Collymore gets/got on with Alan Green, I remember Shrewn saying on a previous thread that they worked closely together when Stan was at Radio 5 Live, hence why he was so upset by the insulting comments Green routinely made on-air about talkSPORT during the last World Cup. To Alan's credit, he made a point of apologising to Stan and his talkSPORT colleagues - in writing to Stan as well as personally I believe - after that tournament and has seemed to have stayed well clear of sort of thing during the four years since then. Of course that plus his fallings out with Mark Saggers and Jonathan Pearce have been well-publicised, but it is only fair to say that since South Africa he has largely kept him head down and steered clear of unnecessary controversies - and I say that as someone who is far from a fan of his highly opinionated style of commentary.

As for the best radio commentator of this generation, surely Jim Proudfoot has to be in the conversation at the very least? For me, he's the best radio commentator around and one of the outstanding football commentators on either medium. Mike Ingham is a fine commentator and John Murray will be a worthy successor to him, but JP is very much up there and has deservingly been the preeminent commentator on commercial radio over the past decade. It's a real feather in the cap for TFM up on Teesside that they helped bring both Proudfoot and Murray through at the same time about 20 years ago now. And I'm certain that BBC Radio 5 Live will devote at least an hour of 5 Live Sport to do a full tribute to Ingham's career at some point during the World Cup, as well they should.
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Old 08-05-2014, 22:47
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I'm no Proudfoot fan in all honesty but I don't think he's bad, he's a good lead commentator for TS, just not in my list of favourites

I think 5Live's line up is pretty good, I'll be interested to see the pairings. ITV's line up currently stinks in my opinion so on their games, I'll probably have 5Live on with the TV sound on mute.
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Old 08-05-2014, 23:05
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He's going to the World Cup with ITV as their secondary lead commentator behind Clive Tyldesley.

Initially this looked like a major blow to talkSPORT given how Sam has been their lead commentator for the past four seasons, but I feel things have actually worked out rather well for them - they've been able to attract Jim Proudfoot, their main football commentator for many years during the 2000s, back from Absolute Radio with the prospect of him leading their commentary team at the World Cup (basically his old job), without having to worry about splitting games between him and Sam. In my opinion, JP is a much better commentator than SM on either medium and I can't wait to hear him back on talkSPORT. JP's back with them full-time as well, not just for the World Cup but into the 2014/15 season and beyond, which can only be good news for the station.

It'll be interesting to see what talkSPORT's full commentary line-up is. Proudfoot and Andrew McKenna - who really impressed as a rugby union commentator on their British & Irish Lions coverage last year and has done a good job whenever I've heard him commentating on football this season - has been confirmed and I think Nigel Adderley, very much their number two behind Matterface on club football over the past two seasons, is highly likely to join them in Brazil. After appearing on their FA Cup coverage earlier in the year, Gary Taphouse was touted as being part of their team in Brazil, but he only commentated on a couple of games for them and hasn't been heard on the station since March, so I wouldn't take it as a given that he'll be going. Given his darts and speedway commitments, I doubt Nigel Pearson will travel but he'll probably work on any off-tube element of their coverage during the group stage, while Ian Danter - although primarily their reporter in the England camp and a back-up presenter - may get the chance to commentate on a few games, similar to Ian Dennis on Radio 5 Live who has had this kind of role at previous tournaments.

Co-commentary wise, Stan Collymore and Stuart Pearce have been confirmed as their main men. Sparing a surprise big name signing, I'd imagine they'll take two or three of Alvin Martin, Ray Parlour, Michael Gray and Matt Holland out to Brazil to be involved in their third and fourth choice pairings.
Interesting. Thanks for the comprehensive reply.

I do like Talksport, but it will rank as my fourth choice behind the two TV stations and 5Live for actual match coverage.
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Old 09-05-2014, 00:27
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Innocent comment by a fan about Alan Green, met with derisory comment by his Colleague Darren Fletcher, never knew they didn't get on. Anyone shed some light on this, or am I reading to much into it?

https://twitter.com/FootyPhilWye/sta...99019351142400
Possibly something to do with 606?
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Old 09-05-2014, 00:32
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I think 5Live's line up is pretty good, I'll be interested to see the pairings. ITV's line up currently stinks in my opinion so on their games, I'll probably have 5Live on with the TV sound on mute.
I'll be doing the opposite of you - I've no real qualms about ITV's line-up, but I find quite a few members of BBC TV's commentary team very off-putting. I'll be muting any BBC TV matches I watch that have Steve Wilson, Mark Lawrenson or Robbie Savage commentating on them and syncing up talkSPORT instead.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:33
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talkSPORT will have SIX commentators doing the games out in Brazil.

Nothing been made official yet, but expect to be done soon with a surprise name in there!!
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:16
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I think Stan Collymore gets/got on with Alan Green, I remember Shrewn saying on a previous thread that they worked closely together when Stan was at Radio 5 Live, hence why he was so upset by the insulting comments Green routinely made on-air about talkSPORT during the last World Cup. To Alan's credit, he made a point of apologising to Stan and his talkSPORT colleagues - in writing to Stan as well as personally I believe - after that tournament and has seemed to have stayed well clear of sort of thing during the four years since then. Of course that plus his fallings out with Mark Saggers and Jonathan Pearce have been well-publicised, but it is only fair to say that since South Africa he has largely kept him head down and steered clear of unnecessary controversies - and I say that as someone who is far from a fan of his highly opinionated style of commentary.

As for the best radio commentator of this generation, surely Jim Proudfoot has to be in the conversation at the very least? For me, he's the best radio commentator around and one of the outstanding football commentators on either medium. Mike Ingham is a fine commentator and John Murray will be a worthy successor to him, but JP is very much up there and has deservingly been the preeminent commentator on commercial radio over the past decade. It's a real feather in the cap for TFM up on Teesside that they helped bring both Proudfoot and Murray through at the same time about 20 years ago now. And I'm certain that BBC Radio 5 Live will devote at least an hour of 5 Live Sport to do a full tribute to Ingham's career at some point during the World Cup, as well they should.
Yes, Stan said Alan was like a mentor to him when he started, and, as regards to phone ins, Alan told Stan to expect people trying to make cheap jibes about his personal life, and not to rise to the bait

I agree whole heartedly about Jim Proudfoot, I remember first hearing him on BRMB / Xtra-am, what must have been pushing 20 years ago now and he was outstanding.

I'll be mixing and matching with my listening, and as i'm knocking on now I like to be in bed by 11, i'll probably rely a bit on the radio as i doze off, but i think Tony Pullis is a great signing

I assumed Alan Green would step down after this World Cup, I guess he and Mike could join the general Saturday rota, Alan seems to have got himself a gig on Final Score, and i think writes for the Belfast Telegraph.
Maybe Mike, free from the contractual restrictions, brought about by being correspondent may go into print journalism as his predecessor Bryon Butler did. Its worth noting that both Mike and BB will have both been "BBC Football Correspondent" for exactly 23 years.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:08
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Yes, Stan said Alan was like a mentor to him when he started, and, as regards to phone ins, Alan told Stan to expect people trying to make cheap jibes about his personal life, and not to rise to the bait

I agree whole heartedly about Jim Proudfoot, I remember first hearing him on BRMB / Xtra-am, what must have been pushing 20 years ago now and he was outstanding.

I'll be mixing and matching with my listening, and as i'm knocking on now I like to be in bed by 11, i'll probably rely a bit on the radio as i doze off, but i think Tony Pullis is a great signing

I assumed Alan Green would step down after this World Cup, I guess he and Mike could join the general Saturday rota, Alan seems to have got himself a gig on Final Score, and i think writes for the Belfast Telegraph.
Maybe Mike, free from the contractual restrictions, brought about by being correspondent may go into print journalism as his predecessor Bryon Butler did. Its worth noting that both Mike and BB will have both been "BBC Football Correspondent" for exactly 23 years.
For m, Ingham just shades it in termsof the very best radio commentators. It really is close though and certainly Jim Proudfoot is right up there amongst my favourites. Mixing and matching for me as well I think this world cup.
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Old 09-05-2014, 15:49
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Fletcher is being unprofessional, just because 1 person wants Alan Green to do 606 during the world cup, doesn't mean he should throw his toys out the pram.
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Old 09-05-2014, 20:16
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Charles Sale wrote a few weeks ago that Green was set for a new 2 year deal. I doubt 5Live would want to lose both at the same time as it's a big loss
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Old 09-05-2014, 22:03
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Maybe Mike, free from the contractual restrictions, brought about by being correspondent may go into print journalism as his predecessor Bryon Butler did. Its worth noting that both Mike and BB will have both been "BBC Football Correspondent" for exactly 23 years.
I could certainly see that happening, I can imagine a few of the broadsheet newspapers being very keen to make Mike Ingham a part of their team (perhaps not as a match reporter as I think Bryon Butler was, but maybe as a weekly columnist). I think he'd be a particularly good fit for either The Times or The Daily Telegraph given their history of using veteran BBC sports commentators and experts, with the late Christopher Martin-Jenkins having been the cricket correspondent at both of those papers. And it was worth noting that point about both Ingham and Butler being BBC Football Correspondent for exactly 23 years, a rather fitting coincidence.
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Old 10-05-2014, 00:26
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Andrew McKenna must be doing some on Talk sport as he left his Sunday evening rugby show to prepare for it.

Might have to start talking in a more positive light about the game then!
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Old 10-05-2014, 07:35
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Andrew McKenna must be doing some on Talk sport as he left his Sunday evening rugby show to prepare for it.

Might have to start talking in a more positive light about the game then!
He's already said he's doing some games.
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Old 13-05-2014, 10:30
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The talkSPORT commentators for the World Cup are:

Alan Parry, Jim Proudfoot, Gary Taphouse, John Anderson, Nigel Pearson and Andrew McKenna.
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Old 13-05-2014, 10:52
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very interesting re talksport. are they the commentators going out to Brazil or does that include those commentators who'll be doing off tube commentaries from London? if so, I'd expect John Anderson to be back in the UK. Great to see Alan Parry back in the talksport line-up, I presume he'll be second choice behind Jim Proudfoot?
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Old 13-05-2014, 11:15
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When was Parry's first WC? 1974?

Someone mentioned Ian Payne - i notice he is working for ITN, so maybe he'll be covering the W/C for them
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Old 13-05-2014, 11:59
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When was Parry's first WC? 1974?
Worked for ITV first in 1990.
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Old 13-05-2014, 12:53
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Worked for ITV first in 1990.
I think that was his first for ITV, but he was a Match of The Day regular in the early 80s, before that BBC Radio
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Old 13-05-2014, 12:57
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I think that was his first for ITV, but he was a Match of The Day regular in the early 80s, before that BBC Radio
You did ask about the World Cup. His first MOTD outing was September 1980.
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Old 13-05-2014, 13:40
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You did ask about the World Cup. His first MOTD outing was September 1980.
I did, and thank you
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Old 13-05-2014, 14:06
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Parry's first World Cup was indeed 1974, though, and because Maurice Edelston was at Wimbledon, he commentated on the final for BBC Radio, just two years after his first appearance on national radio...
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1521

He went to 1974 and 1978 with BBC Radio and 1982 with BBC TV, didn't go in 1986 (he was only doing athletics for ITV at the time) and then to 1990 and 1994 with ITV. He first went for Talk Radio, as was, in 1998.
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Old 13-05-2014, 14:12
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Worked for ITV first in 1990.
There I was on a travel agents' trip to Barbados in the summer of 1974 and the local radio had BBC Radio 2 coverage of the World Cup Final and Alan Parry was doing the commentary, over crackly reception, with Peter Jones!

Forty years ago. I can't believe it!
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Old 13-05-2014, 19:46
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The talkSPORT commentators for the World Cup are:

Alan Parry, Jim Proudfoot, Gary Taphouse, John Anderson, Nigel Pearson and Andrew McKenna.
Thanks for confirming talkSPORT's commentary line-up at the World Cup. A bit of a surprise to see Alan Parry back in their line-up, some ten years after his last appearance on the station (he was a commentator for them at France 98 and Euro 2000 before presenting Sunday afternoon phone-ins during the 2002 World Cup and Euro 2004). I wonder if he'll be working on-site for them.

Jim Proudfoot has just made his return to the talkSPORT airwaves after nearly four years away from the station, with him reporting on Leyton Orient v Peterborough United in the League One Play-Offs this evening. It was mentioned that he'll be doing 16 commentaries during the World Cup including Brazil v Croatia in the opening game and England v Italy with Mark Saggers and Stan Collymore. Saggers also said that Jim "along with Andrew McKenna" will be talkSPORT's "lead commentators" and that Stan Collymore, Stuart Pearce and Ray Parlour will be "heading our summarising team" in Brazil.
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Old 13-05-2014, 19:48
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Hmm, Parry & Proudfoot are great but TS IMO don't have the commentary depth 5Live do

EDIT: Nigel Adderly has Tweeted he'll be in Brazil, I wouldn't be surprised if Parry was an off tube commentator
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