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So has Lady Gaga's G.U.Y. actually been released as a single yet and flopped or what? |
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So has Lady Gaga's G.U.Y. actually been released as a single yet and flopped or what?
Wikipedia has this to say "It was commercially unsuccessful, debuting on the record charts of a few countries, but failing to approach the top-ten in most of them. In her native United States, "G.U.Y." has become Gaga's lowest peaking single on the Billboard Hot 100, a peak of number 76."
- but I'm not sure if that's just because it hasnt been 'actually released as a single yet'? Is she promoting it? Is the music vid getting TV airplay/requests? is that even a thing anymore? I'm quite confused about the whole thing. Not sure if she's actually released it in the UK or not, anyway. She wouldve done well to release it when the video came out IMHO. Anyone know any more? And before anybody jumps in that there was already a thread for this; I couldnt find one, so apologies right out there. |
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Only from what I've read just on Wiki, it hasn't been given an official standalone sales release. It was released to Italian radio on March 28th, US radio on April 8th and UK radio on April 21st but doesn't list digital or physical releases for sale. I would assume the US #76 position was from streaming and radio play, and the UK #115 position from people downloading it from the album on digital sites.
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I'm surprised Capital FM didn't playlist this. As far as I know it's the only Gaga single they've ignored.
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I just think there is no interest for it and she has done little herself to change that opinion. I think it's safe to say the song is a non starter.
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I assume that there hadn't been a full physical and digital release due to the poor reception it received when released on radio airplay. It hasn't really been a very popular era the huge hype for over a year and when Artpop arrived and Applause lead single it was overshadowed by Katy Perry. The album did not deliver on sales or getting the media attention. Somewhere I also remember about this whole interactive promotion being built up about it not only being a music album but app and complete media experience but the problem was the overhype, casual buyer who make the majority of the sales purchases longevity wise just appear to have lost interest. Fans tend to always buy in the first week and even that was pretty poor.
The debacle over the next single release and lack of video along with getting fans to choose the next release but then not going with the popular choice. Third single too much focus on the video which is just nothing artistic or new. You have to wander that her ego has overtaken any creativity or connection with the public. The Music industry at the moment appears pretty unforgiving to female artists and it's not just LG that's had a bumpy ride in the past few years the difficulty is she neither has the longevity or huge back catalogue to be able to sustain a career so really needs to get back at the top of her game and win people round. Whilst overall media coverage is still majority positive at the end of the day they don't create the interest or sales if public demand isn't there. I could see her doing well with her Jazz album and reigniting both her public image and career but she really needs to take ownership of her mistakes and stop blaming everyone else as the victim card has been completely used up in her case. |
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Wikipedia has this to say "It was commercially unsuccessful, debuting on the record charts of a few countries, but failing to approach the top-ten in most of them. In her native United States, "G.U.Y." has become Gaga's lowest peaking single on the Billboard Hot 100, a peak of number 76."
- but I'm not sure if that's just because it hasnt been 'actually released as a single yet'? Is she promoting it? Is the music vid getting TV airplay/requests? is that even a thing anymore? I'm quite confused about the whole thing. Not sure if she's actually released it in the UK or not, anyway. She wouldve done well to release it when the video came out IMHO. Anyone know any more? And before anybody jumps in that there was already a thread for this; I couldnt find one, so apologies right out there. |
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I assume that there hadn't been a full physical and digital release due to the poor reception it received when released on radio airplay. It hasn't really been a very popular era the huge hype for over a year and when Artpop arrived and Applause lead single it was overshadowed by Katy Perry. The album did not deliver on sales or getting the media attention. Somewhere I also remember about this whole interactive promotion being built up about it not only being a music album but app and complete media experience but the problem was the overhype, casual buyer who make the majority of the sales purchases longevity wise just appear to have lost interest. Fans tend to always buy in the first week and even that was pretty poor.
The debacle over the next single release and lack of video along with getting fans to choose the next release but then not going with the popular choice. Third single too much focus on the video which is just nothing artistic or new. You have to wander that her ego has overtaken any creativity or connection with the public. The Music industry at the moment appears pretty unforgiving to female artists and it's not just LG that's had a bumpy ride in the past few years the difficulty is she neither has the longevity or huge back catalogue to be able to sustain a career so really needs to get back at the top of her game and win people round. Whilst overall media coverage is still majority positive at the end of the day they don't create the interest or sales if public demand isn't there. I could see her doing well with her Jazz album and reigniting both her public image and career but she really needs to take ownership of her mistakes and stop blaming everyone else as the victim card has been completely used up in her case. |
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It;s been released to radio, she revealed a single cover, released a video and a remix EP was released. So it has been released and flopped.
EDIT: The Remix EP will be out in the UK the 8th of may |
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The song is available the moment the album is released unless there is album only option next to it. So when a single is released it can be immediately bought for the most part. So as for no release it has been available 7 months.
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Just checked UK single release dates and it's official single release is:
12th MAY Afrojack- 10 Feet Tall Jake Bugg- Messed Up Kids EP Kylie Minogue- I Was Gonna Cancel Lady Gaga- G.U.Y Lorde- Tennis Court Paloma Faith- Only Love Can Hurt Like This Pharrell Williams- Marilyn Monroe Rita Ora- I Will Never Let You Down Sheryl Crow- Callin' Me When I'm Lonely Taio Cruz- Don't You Dare |
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Yes the same applies for 99% of albums now released digitally. That wasn't what either the poster was meaning or myself. When an album is released it's not counted as 12 singles or whatever the number of tracks they are counted as album tracks. They then decide what they want to release as singles usually compromising of video, physical releases i.e vinyl, cd and other promotional formats as well as either remixes, radio edits etc. a few weeks prior to release date it's sent out to radio stations to build up AirPlay and interest then there is what is classed as an official single release date. Radio stations don't get an album then just randomly play whatever twelve tracks they want for the next six months. There has always been single release dates and as far as I know the music industry still works the same way.
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Yes but many nowadays don't bother with that they may give a Digital bundle or simply leave it as the album track buy option. so whether any other formats are released as soon as the single is announced it is released and available.
Although I don't even know why I got myself into this question as don't particularly like her lol. My last post on this topic. |
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Just checked UK single release dates and it's official single release is:
12th MAY Afrojack- 10 Feet Tall Jake Bugg- Messed Up Kids EP Kylie Minogue- I Was Gonna Cancel Lady Gaga- G.U.Y Lorde- Tennis Court Paloma Faith- Only Love Can Hurt Like This Pharrell Williams- Marilyn Monroe Rita Ora- I Will Never Let You Down Sheryl Crow- Callin' Me When I'm Lonely Taio Cruz- Don't You Dare |
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The song is available the moment the album is released unless there is album only option next to it. So when a single is released it can be immediately bought for the most part. So as for no release it has been available 7 months.
Unless it's hugely hyped, I think gone are the days where an album will spawn many hit singles. Taking Gaga as an example - "Gypsy" could've been a huge hit but because it was chart eligible way back in November when Artpop released - the chances of it hitting the higher ends of the charts as a latter standalone single are slim, and like GUY - it'd likely sink without a trace. What's the point in a song being chart eligible straight away?! Most general fans who bought the album, have little incentive to buy a track again when it becomes an actual "Single" - it's kind of mucking up long lasting music. If the release of GUY brought a bside - I'd download that alone, not the actual single that I already had 7 months ago! What's the point? ![]() Take Madonna, Gaga, Kylie - all latest albums viewed as "Flops". Music and it's image is suffering and something needs to be done. There's no incentive now for fans to collect a song - it's just an invisible MP3! Back in the day (there, I said it) I'd buy cd1 AND cd2 - maybe only gaining a b-side on 1 and a remix on the other - but still, i BOUGHT them, I listened in to the charts to see if it bumped my favourite artist up the Top40... It's all so boring now! Bah, rant over! |
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For me, that is the biggest downfall of this new (is it "new" anymore!?) chart rules.
Unless it's hugely hyped, I think gone are the days where an album will spawn many hit singles. Taking Gaga as an example - "Gypsy" could've been a huge hit but because it was chart eligible way back in November when Artpop released - the chances of it hitting the higher ends of the charts as a latter standalone single are slim, and like GUY - it'd likely sink without a trace. What's the point in a song being chart eligible straight away?! Most general fans who bought the album, have little incentive to buy a track again when it becomes an actual "Single" - it's kind of mucking up long lasting music. If the release of GUY brought a bside - I'd download that alone, not the actual single that I already had 7 months ago! What's the point? ![]() Take Madonna, Gaga, Kylie - all latest albums viewed as "Flops". Music and it's image is suffering and something needs to be done. There's no incentive now for fans to collect a song - it's just an invisible MP3! Back in the day (there, I said it) I'd buy cd1 AND cd2 - maybe only gaining a b-side on 1 and a remix on the other - but still, i BOUGHT them, I listened in to the charts to see if it bumped my favourite artist up the Top40... It's all so boring now! Bah, rant over! ![]() I also used to buy all the CD formats I miss those days!
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I agree to an extent and think all album track should be album only until released as a single. But that said it isn't impossible for a song to chart highly after. Take Katy Perry's latest single available since October and has now starting scaling ITunes since the release of the single so radio play etc etc. The only difference is where as a song would chart highly immediately these days if a song is a hit after an album it will peak and have sustained longevity accumulating bigger sales. As opposed to having top heavy sales peaking and dropping,
The fact is if these were days of old Gaga still would not be likely to have a hit with G.U.Y as there is very little interest. No radio play, no video play, and no column inches or performances to push it. The song is available the song has been announced and if it were going to do anything it would have had done by now. |
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Yes, the difference now is the market has more influence on dictating the singles. Fans of the artist buy the album; and then as one or two tracks stand out and get bought; they name those tracks 'singles' and start major promo, TV performances, music videos etc for them and they get exposed to a wider audience. You can expose one song as a sounbite way easier than a whole album.
The single becomes catchy and stuck in people's heads, gets radio airplay, a larger audience buys it, and some of that periphery/casual music fan audience will then be inspired by the single to buy the album. It really is quite similar to the old system. The only thing about Madonna, Kylie and Gaga that this shows is that they're relying on fanbase only and not picking up enough casual music fan/periphery audience to make a splash; and a lot of that is down to bad publicity and/or no promo. |
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It flopped. Like, colossally.
Her single choices during The Fame/ Monster era were fantastic. (Apart from not releasing "Monster" after Alejandro but I can let that go...) Ever since then though they've been terrible. The corny, try-hard, pandering mess that was Born This Way was a very bad decision in the long run. TEOG would've been a better lead single. Plus releasing Hair over Marry The Night would've done better business chart wise. And releasing a song called "Judas" on Easter weekend was just pathetic too, more desperate than controversial to be honest. As for Artpop, well it's just a shit album in general really. No surprise GUY flopped. |
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It flopped. Like, colossally.
Her single choices during The Fame/ Monster era were fantastic. (Apart from not releasing "Monster" after Alejandro but I can let that go...) Ever since then though they've been terrible. The corny, try-hard, pandering mess that was Born This Way was a very bad decision in the long run. TEOG would've been a better lead single. Plus releasing Hair over Marry The Night would've done better business chart wise. And releasing a song called "Judas" on Easter weekend was just pathetic too, more desperate than controversial to be honest. As for Artpop, well it's just a shit album in general really. No surprise GUY flopped. |
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I was a massive Gaga fan when she first released Fame as most songs I instantly liked and then I still liked most of the songs added for Fame Monster but then found Born This Way took a few listens before I became a fan of most songs however I have found during this era I have really gone off her and not even bothered with the album and the only song I love is Do what you want...I really think she just needs to create more pop friendly songs as her attitude now is just making her appear too big for her boots
On the whole the album is rubbish though. |
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For me, that is the biggest downfall of this new (is it "new" anymore!?) chart rules.
Unless it's hugely hyped, I think gone are the days where an album will spawn many hit singles. Taking Gaga as an example - "Gypsy" could've been a huge hit but because it was chart eligible way back in November when Artpop released - the chances of it hitting the higher ends of the charts as a latter standalone single are slim, and like GUY - it'd likely sink without a trace. What's the point in a song being chart eligible straight away?! Most general fans who bought the album, have little incentive to buy a track again when it becomes an actual "Single" - it's kind of mucking up long lasting music. If the release of GUY brought a bside - I'd download that alone, not the actual single that I already had 7 months ago! What's the point? ![]() Take Madonna, Gaga, Kylie - all latest albums viewed as "Flops". Music and it's image is suffering and something needs to be done. There's no incentive now for fans to collect a song - it's just an invisible MP3! Back in the day (there, I said it) I'd buy cd1 AND cd2 - maybe only gaining a b-side on 1 and a remix on the other - but still, i BOUGHT them, I listened in to the charts to see if it bumped my favourite artist up the Top40... It's all so boring now! Bah, rant over! |
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There is no real joy in clicking and downloading no matter how much you love music. I REALLY miss not being able check out all the new cd singles in record shops.
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Has Gaga had a recent dig at Katy Perry for copying her hair colour? lol my Twitter feed has gone wild but I can't find what its all about.
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She wrote 'seems mechanical horses and green wigs are a thing now'
Dunno whether she was criticising Katy, or merely pointing out other ways in which the media try and make a thing against them. If she is going for Katy for copying then I think she should look in the mirror before doing so. There are definitely similarities between their aesthetics, Katy def started 'crazying' it up after Gaga came on the scene, but having been on the receiving end of copying allegations herself, you'd think Gaga would refrain. Even though there'd been press articles about how similar the Prismatic tour is to stuff Gaga's done, and all that kerfuffle with single/album/tour dates being very close together - I don't think she should have tweeted that. I'm not impressed at all tbh - so much for online kindness and not pitting females against each other. I can only hope there's been a misunderstanding. This won't end well for Gaga, and if Katy remained silent that would be the best outcome. I'm still going to artRave in October, and whilst I think Gaga is more talented performance-wise than most of her contemporaries, her behaviour and attitude in recent times is really putting me off. I'm disappointed by her and am finding it increasingly hard to defend somebody who seems so lacking in self-awareness. By bringing up Katy in a comparing manner, it shows her ego really is bruised by the state of her own career. She should focus on her own tour and making her next album more of a success. I don't think Katy is as innocent and all sweetness as she likes to appear, and as I said before, I feel she does perhaps watch too closely what Gaga's doing and done before, BUT having set herself up as the 'Goddess of Love' or whatever, Gaga is further accelerating her own decline. I can only hope for her sake its a misunderstanding, because if not, I don't see this ending well for her. |
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Has Gaga had a recent dig at Katy Perry for copying her hair colour? lol my Twitter feed has gone wild but I can't find what its all about.
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It looks like green hair and mechanical horses are the thing now 👀 |
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