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Big Brother Canada 2 - Side Show and Finale - 1.30am - 9 May 2014 |
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Does anybody have a link to the finale episode? The site I usually use has only put up the finale side show for some reason. Thanks in advance.
I won't check here because I don't want to spoil it so if anyone has a link could you please PM me? Thanks if so.
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Keeping Adel wouldn't have mattered. Jon still wins final 4 veto and final HOH.
Adel is someone who Jon would have sided with over Neda, the result would have probably ended the exact same just swap round Adel and Sabrina. |
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They feared Adel would have the votes so Jon might have evicted Adel over Neda.
In the end it didn't matter because Jon won veto anyway, the game was pretty much his after that. |
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Agree. Jon was funny on the show and by the end the majority of the viewers turned their hate on Sabrina to Neda so I think Jon winning is a good stalemate between casual viewers and fans of the show.
Neda did not do ALL of Jon's game. She certainly helped him but he did get to the final on his own. IMO anyway. Being carried is someone like Sabrina. Jon competed hard and got to the final. Plus evicting Neda was the best move of the season IMO cause she was such a strong player. I don't think Neda did all of Jon's game, I think he played her game right until final 3... Well, the best person came 3rd. She joins the Janelle club. |
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Nooooooo, totally gutted for poor Neda. She's been such a great player and to see her being so agonisingly close to the win, yet to still leave with nothing is a real heartbreaker! I really really feel bad for her because I don't think she really did anything wrong, other than not win one of the last few competitions to get rid of Jon.
![]() As sad as I am for Neda, I don't really feel any resentment towards Jon. I'm gutted that he voted her out, but he made 100% the correct move, and Neda would have done the same thing to him had she won that HoH. When all is said and done, I'm not particularly unhappy with Jon as the overall winner, I'm just very disappointed that it was him and not Neda. As winners go, I don't think Jon is particularly a bad one and at the very least he is likeable unlike the last few BBUS winners. Sabrina getting to the end.. Well, I guess credit to her for hanging on in there so long! I didn't watch much feeds so I never really saw any of the stuff that made her so hated, so I actually confess I didn't really mind her that much. She was annoying, but at the very least she was entertaining! Overall I enjoyed this series! I just wish I'd actually watched more regularly early on, because after the first few episodes I fell behind and never really caught up until near the end. I did the exact same last year with BB Canada so next year I'll just have to drill myself into it! |
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#106 |
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Just watched it.
Really good finale. Great move by Jon at the end, it won him the game and I never would have guessed he'd have done that. So hats off to him, a deserving winner. |
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Still really upset at the result... I'm more upset at this result than I was when Heather left. Rubbish end to a great series.
I don't care about Jon winning or Sabrina claiming second place - it's irrelevant to how I feel. I just feel as though this was Neda's series. Yes, I wanted Heather to win over Neda, but that's because I was invested emotionally into Heather. Once Heather had gone, stepping away and looking at it from a game point of view only, Neda played the best game of ANYONE by far. Even at the start - she was very observant and knew to hold back. During Ika's and Rachelle's HoH's, she was the only one to speak any sense, but didn't push it because she knew she'd land herself into trouble. Her entire game was flawless. The only time I hated her game was the "Heather was my target but I don't want it to seem that way" edit at final five. It was nonsense, but I blame the producers - clearly scripted. Neda is/was so far in front of Jon and Sabrina in terms of game play that I find this result hard to take. I know that the best players don't always come out on top, but it doesn't mean accepting it gets any easier. Neda's definitely one of the best players I've ever seen on the show. Hope she returns some day... |
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I think Neda's ultimate flaw in her game was not having the balls to vote out Jon, or at least put herself in the position to vote out Jon. She did all the groundwork (getting Jon to eliminate his own allies) but never seemed keen on actually doing the final deed. Which some credit has to go to Jon I guess because he played up the bitter jury vote if she was the one to vote him out. But now look what happened, she ended up having to vote for him as the winner after he got rid of her. Typical that she overplayed at other parts of the game but wasn't forthright enough in getting out Jon.
In the end the winner basically was determined by winning competitions. Either Jon had to win his way to the end to win or Neda had to win either final 4 veto or final HOH to vote Jon out and claim victory. Whether she tried hard enough to win I don't know. She seemed to adopt the whole 'Can't someone else do it?' when it came to voting Jon out and she payed the price. I think the thing that most annoys me is the comments from 'fans'. Big mistake looking on facebook, I'll never make that mistake again. The general attitude seemed to be:- Neda planning to vote out Jon = "OMG what a b*tch, how dare she!!! Stupid move." ![]() Jon voting out Neda - "OMG yes!!! Genius move, show that b*tch Neda." I can handle Jon's win because I think their alliance got them both to the end and was ultimately a 50/50 thing and Jon won when he needed to. But the gender thing never sits right with me. It still sucks that a woman can't even beat a man in the final 2 in this format without someone screwing up their jury vote. |
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Neda was by far and away my favourite of this series, probably my favourite HM since I started watching the American version - which isn't much I suppose I've only watched BB US 14/15 and the two CAN's. So I understand the dissapointment.
Looking back on the series, though, I don't think there was ever an opportunity for Neda to get out Jon when it made sense for her game to cut him. |
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The main problem for Neda was that Jon only really became a realistic target for her around the same time he started his competition streak. She'd have been stupid to cut him before the rival alliance had been sufficiently destroyed, but then once it was just N/J/H/A and Sabrina, Jon won a competition in every "round" and that was that.
I guess ultimately it was a flaw to stick with someone who had clear challenge beast potential, but looking at how the game had gone by the time the jury had started, I just can't think of any scenario where she could have cut Jon before final five without completely ruining her own position. |
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Neda got the edit like she was going to be the winner with all the DR talks she got, so it was funny in a way that she was the one who got cut at the end and not Jon. I guess it surprised the producers as he was pretty thick most of the time it seemed.
The real loser was Heather who won nothing I think. She hitched herself to Jon and Neda but Sabrina played the game harder perhaps because she had to. It was pretty easy for the others, Neda got complacent I suppose. She wasn't on the block until the very end so she never had to scramble like others. The potential for drama was pretty much killed when Adel survived rather pointlessly for a bit longer. |
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To add insult to injury it sounds like if Jon had taken Neda to the end then she'd have got the votes from Arlie, Allison, Rachelle and Adel. Heather was 50/50.
It's nice to see Neda get some appreciation but she looked a bit gutted. Arlie and Adel had the plan that if Jon took Neda to the end then they'd vote Neda to win, but if Neda took Jon then they'd vote Jon. Obviously they were looking for one of them to pull off the bold move and vote out the other or for one of them to win final HOH and not have the balls to get rid of the other. Sabrina doesn't really come into it. Rachelle has even said that if it was Sabrina vs Neda then she'd have voted Neda. So if Jon had taken Neda the votes would probably have been: Arlie - Neda Allison - Neda Rachelle - Neda Adel - Neda Heather - 50/50 but since she was unsure she'd have probably voted Jon for winning final HOH Sabrina - didn't really get asked but I get the feeling she'd respect Jon winning his way to the end. Canada - Jon Neda wins 4-3 If Neda had taken Jon: Arlie - Jon Allison - not sure, she liked Jon better but knew Neda pulled the strings. I think she'd follow her heart and vote Jon. Rachelle - Neda Adel - Jon Heather - Neda probably Sabrina - Neda for winning final HOH Canada - Jon Jon wins 4-3 If it was Neda vs Sabrina, Neda would have won 7-0, unless Canada pulled a Topaz. |
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I've tried for two days to watch the whole of the damn finale but lost it just before voting started and have now given up trying to catch up. I saw Neda's eviction and obviously Jon won but what was the final vote? 5-2?
Gutted my girls were out 4th and 3rd. Enjoyable season on the whole but don't really care about the outcome either way.
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I've tried for two days to watch the whole of the damn finale but lost it just before voting started and have now given up trying to catch up. I saw Neda's eviction and obviously Jon won but what was the final vote? 5-2?
Gutted my girls were out 4th and 3rd. Enjoyable season on the whole but don't really care about the outcome either way. ![]() Arlie - Jon Allison - Jon Rachelle - Sabrina Adel - Jon Heather - Jon Neda - Jon Canada - Jon |
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Many thanks!
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If Neda had taken Jon:
Arlie - Jon Allison - not sure, she liked Jon better but knew Neda pulled the strings. I think she'd follow her heart and vote Jon. Rachelle - Neda Adel - Jon Heather - Neda probably Sabrina - Neda for winning final HOH Canada - Jon Jon wins 4-3 |
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Apparently Jon has dumped his gf and is now dating Neda. They've announced it on ET Canada ... I honestly didn't see that coming.
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Apparently Jon has dumped his gf and is now dating Neda. They've announced it on ET Canada ... I honestly didn't see that coming.
I didn't think much of Jon anyway, but just lost a lot of respect for Neda. |
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Apparently Jon has dumped his gf and is now dating Neda. They've announced it on ET Canada ... I honestly didn't see that coming.
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