The DS Eurovision General Discussion Thread (Part 57)

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sheepiefarm

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by Damien.:
“Also worth nothing that Austria won after performing 11th. Good to shake up things and get another winner from the first half for future statistics. Actually 3 of the Top 5 were in the first half. ”

Maybe not surprising when you consider that was where most of the favourites were.

alwaysanigel247

11-05-2014

Basically going to be one of these locations! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...nas_in_Austria

Unless the Austrians decide to hold it in some airplane hanger!

QuartzMan

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by BigBmad:
“Nice to see even in those eastern countries they loved conchita”

Hmm, the televote figures are quite telling. It seems the casual viewer, the average Ukrainian, Russian etc. are a lot more liberal and accepting that one is made to think...

Mrs Checks

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“I don't buy the -

1 - lack of big 5 getting a performance before the final - Germany's recent win kills that idea
2 - political or block voting - this year's result kills that (Russia's jury vote for the UK was one of our better ones)
3 - it should be televoting only - this years result show that we did just as poorly (if not worse) with the televotes than we did with the juries.

The song wasn't popular - the iTunes data shows the popularity of the winning songs
The performance wasn't great
The staging - camera angles weren't great

Also (imo) this year was one of the strongest years in terms of competition (sadly)”

I don't think people want the juries reviewed due to the UK doing badly (well, at least I don't). It's more due to Azerbaijan and their suspect results.

da33431

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by QuartzMan:
“Netherlands at number 9 whaaat?”

Even the Brits prefer another country's song to its own. Pretty speechless right now.

cc264

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“United Kingdom Corrected Televote Placings
Albania: - (100% jury)
Armenia: 18th
Austria: 22nd
Azerbaijan: 14th
Belarus: 18th
Belgium: 17th
Denmark: 5th
Estonia: 15th
FYR Macedonia: 15th
Finland: 22nd
France: 17th
Georgia: 8th
Germany: 19th
Greece: 13th
Hungary: 21st
Iceland: 14th
Ireland: 4th
Israel: 13th
Italy: 16th
Latvia: 18th
Lithuania: 16th
Malta: 4th
Moldova: 13th
Montenegro: 14th
Norway: 10th
Poland: 21st
Portugal: 11th
Romania: 14th
Russia: 19th
San Marino: - (100% jury)
Slovenia: 21st
Spain: 12th
Sweden: 17th
Switzerland: 19th
The Netherlands: 19th
Ukraine: 17th”

I guess Europe didn't like our song very much

(or perhaps begin 26th was the reason!)

alwaysanigel247

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“United Kingdom Corrected Televote Placings
Albania: - (100% jury)
Armenia: 18th
Austria: 22nd
Azerbaijan: 14th
Belarus: 18th
Belgium: 17th
Denmark: 5th
Estonia: 15th
FYR Macedonia: 15th
Finland: 22nd
France: 17th
Georgia: 8th
Germany: 19th
Greece: 13th
Hungary: 21st
Iceland: 14th
Ireland: 4th
Israel: 13th
Italy: 16th
Latvia: 18th
Lithuania: 16th
Malta: 4th
Moldova: 13th
Montenegro: 14th
Norway: 10th
Poland: 21st
Portugal: 11th
Romania: 14th
Russia: 19th
San Marino: - (100% jury)
Slovenia: 21st
Spain: 12th
Sweden: 17th
Switzerland: 19th
The Netherlands: 19th
Ukraine: 17th”

hmmm sooo many...

Mikay

11-05-2014

After the severe ballad drought we had (wasn't it like the first 20 entries chosen there wasn't a ballad amongst them?), I'm surprised one went on to win!

dbj2

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by cc264:
“Armenia Azerbaijan Belarus ”

At least people voted in the televote for Austria.

brb

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by alwaysanigel247:
“Basically going to be one of these locations! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...nas_in_Austria

Unless the Austrians decide to hold it in some airplane hanger!”

Wiener Stadthalle (Vienna) and Olympiahalle (Innsbruck) are the only 2 large enough, I think out of those.

DamienS

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by QuartzMan:
“Hmm, the televote figures are quite telling. It seems the casual viewer, the average Ukrainian, Russian etc. are a lot more liberal and accepting that one is made to think...”

Exactly!

The juries are more political most definitely!

Mrs Checks

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by da33431:
“Even the Brits prefer another country's song to its own. Pretty speechless right now. ”

Why?

It's a great song! Doesn't mean Molly's song isn't.

hilduffluva

11-05-2014

ooo PLEASE be the Wiener Stadthalle

Mrs Checks

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by hilduffluva:
“ooo PLEASE be the Wiener Stadthalle ”

#WooforWiener2015

brb

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by da33431:
“Even the Brits prefer another country's song to its own. Pretty speechless right now. ”

I certainly prefer other songs over CotU. Of course, I'd have loved Molly to win, but as I've said before, not sure I understand the point of pretending that our song was the best? Also when Europe clearly didn't agree.

CotU is a great song btw* not saying it isn't

spindiddly

11-05-2014

WOW at Finland's results, a clean sweep for Conchita! she topped every jury members' ranking and the televote!

mattlamb

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by DamienS:
“Exactly!

The juries are more political most definitely!”

No, they're not.

For example, entirely predictable we got a good placing from the televote in Ireland and Malta

QuartzMan

11-05-2014

I went to Austria last summer and it really is an incredibly beautiful country. The people who will be travelling there next May will be extremely lucky!

DamienS

11-05-2014

I think the Danes probably thought they were doing us a favour in 26th. It's the only country, other than Ireland, where we did well in televotes and juries

dbj2

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by brb:
“Wiener Stadthalle (Vienna) and Olympiahalle (Innsbruck) are the only 2 large enough, I think out of those.”

I hope it's Innsbruck, it would be nice to be away from primate, coastal or industrial cities, it should have enough hotels at least.

EuanDesu

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by Damien.:
“A lot of you have a real sense of entitlement.

Spare a thought for the likes of Israel, a favourite with the bookies, get drawn in slot 2 and don't even qualify.

The Danes probably thought they were doing you a favour performing 26th and if Molly had performed well, it would have been. This argument is a little petty.”

Excuse me?

First of all, Mei was awful live. It came 13th, wayyyy behind the 10th song Slovenia. Says it all.

Secondly, surely the Danes knew that 26th is kiss of death with the televote?

phill363

11-05-2014

Whats the reaction been from Austria and the Netherlands

da33431

11-05-2014

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Austria's Final breakdown (jury/televote)
Albania: 6th - 100% jury (swore I saw a televote result on there earlier)
Armenia: 24th/2nd
Azerbaijan: 24th/3rd
Belarus: 23rd/4th
Belgium: 3rd/3rd
Denmark: 2nd/3rd
Estonia: 8th/8th
FYR Macedonia: 14th/5th
Finland: 1st/1st
France: 4th/2nd
Georgia: /2nd - 100% televote
Germany: 11th/1st
Greece: 1st/2nd
Hungary: 8th/2nd
Iceland: 2nd/3rd
Ireland: 1st/3rd
Israel: 1st/2nd
Italy: 3rd/2nd
Latvia: 10th/5th
Lithuania: 1st/5th
Malta: 9th/1st
Moldova: 4th/4th
Montenegro: 17th/5th
Norway: 4th/2nd
Poland: 19th/4th
Portugal: 6th/1st
Romania: 7th/2nd
Russia: 11th/3rd
San Marino: 14th - another case where I think the public vote has disappeared; 100% jury only
Slovenia: 1st/1st
Spain: 2nd/2nd
Sweden: 1st/1st
Switzerland: 1st/1st
The Netherlands: 1st/1st
Ukraine: 3rd/5th
United Kingdom: 3rd/3rd

Molly may have struggled tonight but it was certainly the case of Power to the People!”

Eastern Europe televoters have just cheered me up no end. Great stuff

QuartzMan

11-05-2014

I just can't get over an Austrian and Dutch top 2, if you had told me in 2010 I would never have believed it!

brb

11-05-2014

https://www.facebook.com/pages/NEIN-...23559711002948

The anti-Conchita fanpage that started the petitions in Eastern Europe. I cannot wait to see their first post since Conchita's win.

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