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The Palaeontology thread
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Keyser_Soze1
23-07-2015
Originally Posted by bozzimacoo:
“Can you explain lost under water cities circa 8 to 12,000 years old?

http://www.rabbithole2.com/presentat...ties_found.htm”

They can't explain anything on this planet before "the entrance of the night preceding the 23rd day of October... the year before Christ 4004"

Oh dear.
Keyser_Soze1
26-07-2015
Jurassic shag.

Two rex are going at it (rather roughly).

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e5MmgCbLos...s%2BWitton.jpg

The article where the image came from - the excellent Mark Witton - there are no bloody naked, scaly dinosaurs or pterosaurs on his website.

http://markwitton-com.blogspot.co.uk...-artworks.html

The early evolution of sabreteeth was for fighting not biting.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....ng-not-biting/
WhatJoeThinks
26-07-2015
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“The early evolution of sabreteeth was for fighting not biting.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....ng-not-biting/”

I would have thought that was obvious. Like tusks, they extend too far from the mouth to be useful for eating, and they can't generate an opposing force/open their mouth wide enough to bite with them.
Keyser_Soze1
26-07-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“I would have thought that was obvious. Like tusks, they extend too far from the mouth to be useful for eating, and they can't generate an opposing force/open their mouth wide enough to bite with them. ”

I early herbivores yes.

But gorgonopsids, and the sabre toothed cats (to name just a few groups) did a pretty good job afterwards in using them for predation.
WhatJoeThinks
26-07-2015
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“I early herbivores yes.

But gorgonopsids, and the sabre toothed cats (to name just a few groups) did a pretty good job afterwards in using them for predation. ”

Of course, if you can open your mouth wide enough big pointy teeth are quite a boon.
Keyser_Soze1
26-07-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Of course, if you can open your mouth wide enough big pointy teeth are quite a boon.”

Indeed, for example Janet Street Porter is one of the most formidable predators the world has ever seen.
Keyser_Soze1
28-07-2015
A nice BBC article on the long reign of the Terror birds (Phorusrhacids) - carrying on the role of the dinosaurian apex predator until a only couple of million years ago.

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150...e-terror-birds
Keyser_Soze1
28-07-2015
The superb National Geographic documentary on a simulated Tyrannosaurus rex necropsy (not had time to watch it yet but the reviews were excellent).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeNxTUkjQnU

Why some people (and bloody Hollywood) only like scaly, naked and non-feathered dinosaurs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33678744

This article explains why they are exactly 100% wrong.

http://www.australiangeographic.com....jurassic-world

The discovery that proves Ankylosaurs had very strong and powerful tongues - one for the ladies on here!

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....erful-tongues/
Monkey Tennis
28-07-2015
Again, nothing personally to add alas, but this thread and indeed the updates are as usual, still excellent.

Please keep up the good work re the updates and bumps because I (and I am sure I'm not alone) have this and the other ones bookmarked and genuinely enjoy seeing the new stuff that gets added here. I've always been fascinated by this subject, and it's appreciated..

No need for a reply KS, but a fine fine thread.
Keyser_Soze1
29-07-2015
Originally Posted by Monkey Tennis:
“Again, nothing personally to add alas, but this thread and indeed the updates are as usual, still excellent.

Please keep up the good work re the updates and bumps because I (and I am sure I'm not alone) have this and the other ones bookmarked and genuinely enjoy seeing the new stuff that gets added here. I've always been fascinated by this subject, and it's appreciated..

No need for a reply KS, but a fine fine thread.”

Thank you MT - your post is much appreciated!

It is nice to think that people enjoy reading through it.
planets
29-07-2015
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Thank you MT - your post is much appreciated!

It is nice to think that people enjoy reading through it. ”

you've made just over 900 posts and yet had over 48,000 views

i'm guessing people are enjoying it
TelevisionUser
29-07-2015
...and now for more things...

Spoiler
...Dinosaurian :

Natural Histories - Dinosaurs
Our collective imaginations go wild at the thought of lumbering, ferocious beasts that were so powerful they once ruled the earth. T Rex scares us witless and diplodocus was an astonishing creature of breath taking proportions. It is no wonder then that dinosaur books, especially for children, appeared in the early nineteenth century and are still flying of the shelves today.
swingaleg
29-07-2015
I heard the Radio 4 show a couple of days ago about Dinosaurs in Cultural History

It was only mildly entertaining and didn't really include anything I didn't already know

Perhaps most interesting was the brief section on how the word 'dinosaur' came to be used in politics and more generally to mean old-fashioned, out of date etc

The US President Harry S Truman called the Republicans 'dinosaurs' because they belonged to a time before the New Deal
Keyser_Soze1
29-07-2015
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“I heard the Radio 4 show a couple of days ago about Dinosaurs in Cultural History

It was only mildly entertaining and didn't really include anything I didn't already know

Perhaps most interesting was the brief section on how the word 'dinosaur' came to be used in politics and more generally to mean old-fashioned, out of date etc

The US President Harry S Truman called the Republicans 'dinosaurs' because they belonged to a time before the New Deal”

The term itself is now outdated as an insult since dinosaurs were/are superior in almost every respect to us poor mammals.

Why theropod teeth were so very strong (and notice the Gorgosaurus covered in feathers).

http://www.livescience.com/51672-the...ted-teeth.html

http://phys.org/news/2015-07-unique-...ficiently.html

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science...nimals-072815/

Some beautifully preserved Caribbean lizards trapped for eternity in amber.

http://smithsonianscience.si.edu/201...d-communities/
Keyser_Soze1
29-07-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“you've made just over 900 posts and yet had over 48,000 views

i'm guessing people are enjoying it ”

Thanks planets.
Keyser_Soze1
01-08-2015
Iggy the Iguanodon (complete with the song written in it's honour all those years ago).

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/featu...-the-iguanodon

http://www.culture24.org.uk/science-...iggy-iguanodon

An article on the those mega-pterosaurs the azhdarchids.

With a bit of imagination (sadly lacking in the film) Jurassic World could have had these beasts prowling around like giant vampire bats and swallowing tourists like so many oysters.

http://gimpasaura.blogspot.co.uk/201...d-friends.html
TelevisionUser
02-08-2015
New!

Utah’s ‘Grand Staircase’ Leads Back in Time to Dinosaur Shangri-La
There are a number of well-preserved Late Cretaceous sites in the western United States, including New Mexico’s San Juan Basin; the Judith River, the Two Medicine region and the Hell Creek formation in Montana; and Dinosaur Provincial Park in Alberta, Canada. But the Kaiparowits stands out for the sheer number of well-preserved, unique fossils. Finds from this ancient ecosystem are challenging long-held assumptions about dinosaur physiology, evolution and environment.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/sc...user+view&_r=0
Regis Magnae
02-08-2015
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“New!

Utah’s ‘Grand Staircase’ Leads Back in Time to Dinosaur Shangri-La
There are a number of well-preserved Late Cretaceous sites in the western United States, including New Mexico’s San Juan Basin; the Judith River, the Two Medicine region and the Hell Creek formation in Montana; and Dinosaur Provincial Park in Alberta, Canada. But the Kaiparowits stands out for the sheer number of well-preserved, unique fossils. Finds from this ancient ecosystem are challenging long-held assumptions about dinosaur physiology, evolution and environment.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/21/sc...user+view&_r=0”


Quote:
“Today the Kaiparowits is a craggy expanse of shrub-covered rock and sheer cliffs with little moisture; plants hungrily shoot their roots 30 feet down to suck calcium phosphate from still-buried fossils, sometimes destroying them in the process.

“We’re in a constant battle with the roots,” Dr. Titus said. “They find the bones hundreds of years before we do.””

That's a problem I've not heard about before.
Keyser_Soze1
03-08-2015
Originally Posted by Regis Magnae:
“That's a problem I've not heard about before.”

God uses the roots to destroy the evil fossils that Satan has placed within the rocks to fool Mankind!

A new species of Dromaeosaur ('raptor') with a superb sense of smell.

http://www.livescience.com/51710-new...rful-nose.html
TelevisionUser
03-08-2015
Originally Posted by Regis Magnae:
“That's a problem I've not heard about before.”

I'm surprised this phenomenon isn't more common with dinosaur fossils. In the "badlands" areas of the north and west USA where there's low rainfall, nutrient poor soils and more extreme temperatures, the plants have to adopt assorted survival strategies to retain and get access to moisture and nutriment and very deep (and damaging in this case) roots is one of those survival strategies.
Monkey Tennis
03-08-2015
Finally got round to watching that T - Rex dissection over the weekend and as long as you can forgive the artistic license they understandably use, it was pretty interesting.

I would have preferred it it they'd done it with the team from Inside Natures Giants but you can't have everything!
Keyser_Soze1
03-08-2015
Originally Posted by Monkey Tennis:
“Finally got round to watching that T - Rex dissection over the weekend and as long as you can forgive the artistic license they understandably use, it was pretty interesting.

I would have preferred it it they'd done it with the team from Inside Natures Giants but you can't have everything!”

I have not seen it myself yet!

But will be viewing the programme shortly.

But I am glad that you enjoyed it.
Keyser_Soze1
04-08-2015
A short guide to Ichthyosaurs.

http://www.palaeontologyonline.com/a...-ichthyosaurs/
Monkey Tennis
05-08-2015
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“I have not seen it myself yet!

But will be viewing the programme shortly.

But I am glad that you enjoyed it. ”

I certainly did enjoy it and hadn't been able to find it since it was first mentioned on here so the link was much appreciated.

For anyone interested in anatomy and dinosaurs, what's not to like!
Keyser_Soze1
06-08-2015
Originally Posted by Monkey Tennis:
“I certainly did enjoy it and hadn't been able to find it since it was first mentioned on here so the link was much appreciated.

For anyone interested in anatomy and dinosaurs, what's not to like! ”

Exactly.

Fractofusus was a hot sex machine.

http://www.livescience.com/51725-ear...roduction.html

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/thi...go-23513923511

http://news.discovery.com/animals/ol...ves-150803.htm

Mark Witton's suggestions for the future of the Jurassic Park franchise.

http://markwitton-com.blogspot.co.uk...rk-movies.html
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