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The Palaeontology thread
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TelevisionUser
28-11-2015
Originally Posted by Frankie_Little:
“Thanks for keeping this thread going, Keyser will be happy. I love reading it.”

Thanks. I particularly liked the dino egg nest article because it answered a previously undetermined question.

PS I used to once work in a museum where there were loads of skellingtons (and still are!).
Frankie_Little
28-11-2015
Wow, you lucky thing. I went to the Oxford University Museum of Natural History and absolutely loved it, I could have spent all day there. Fascinating.
TelevisionUser
05-12-2015
Below we've got some interesting dino news from the UK itself:

Hundreds of giant dinosaur footprints found in Scottish lagoon. Nessie may be a mythical creature, but Scotland was once home to enormous dinosaurs that waded in shallow waters.

And now for something that's decidedly controversial in nature:

Most of Earth’s mass extinctions caused by… mineral deficiencies. Could a lack of essential trace elements in the world’s oceans be the cause of most of Earth’s mass extinctions?

I remain to be convinced by that article and I'd like to see further research on that particular subject. I can't see it being a primary cause of mass extinctions but as an ancillary factor, possibly. For example, mineral deficiencies might hinder species recover after an extinction event.
TelevisionUser
19-12-2015
We have two completely separate items today.

The first is a new dinosaur find in Spain and it's a type that's entirely new to science:

A distinctive new dinosaur with a “sail” on its back has just been unearthed in Spain. The new plant-eating dino, named Morelladon beltrani, adds to a growing number of medium to large-bodied dinosaurs of a similar kind that have all been found in the region that now comprises parts of Spain and Portugal.

Secondly, we have the solution to the mystery of how the huge marine reptiles, the plesiosaurs, moved along in the water:

200-year-old fossil mystery resolved. Scientists have reconstructed how an ancient reptile swam in the oceans at the time of the dinosaurs.
CLL Dodge
22-12-2015
Nicolas Cage to return a Mongolian Tyrannosaurus skull now known to have been stolen:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35159082
TelevisionUser
22-12-2015
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Nicolas Cage to return a Mongolian Tyrannosaurus skull now known to have been stolen:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35159082”

He's done the right thing and what I would like to see is anyone in the supply chain, including that Beverly Hills gallery, prosecuted for their involvement in the trade of stolen fossils which is a problem in some areas of the world. That means that stolen fossils aren't available to museums and scientist to examine and so important discoveries can be missed. It's a highly unethical and irresponsible thing to do.
Keyser_Soze1
05-01-2016
More links to follow later.

*Edit - Bloody links did not work.

Bah! Humbug!
Keyser_Soze1
06-01-2016
An fascinating article that some of you may enjoy.

I do not necessarily agree that the other giant theropods have had such a bad rap - remember Horner's T.rex 'scavenger' cobblers forever (and wrongly) reported in the media for decades?

Also the endless hype over the last twenty years of every new theropod approaching rexy in size - all were initially described as larger including Spinosaurus (JPIII tosh), Giganotosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus, Mapusaurus etc.

But in the end every species was found to be lighter and less powerful than the Tyrant King (although some were slightly longer).

But as always this blogger has an interesting perspective on non-avian dinosaurian behaviour.

http://antediluviansalad.blogspot.fr...ia-taking.html
Shrike
06-01-2016
Keyser, you're back!

I was worried you'd gone extinct!
njp
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“Keyser, you're back!

I was worried you'd gone extinct!”

Luckily, they were able to recover some of his DNA from a piece of amber and recreate him.
Keyser_Soze1
07-01-2016
Reports of my extinction have been greatly exaggerated.

Several stories that may be of interest to some.

http://www.natureworldnews.com/artic...eries-2015.htm

http://news.discovery.com/animals/di...zed-151210.htm

http://news.discovery.com/animals/di...015-151223.htm

http://www.livescience.com/53240-fut...-research.html

https://anatomistsguide.wordpress.co...aw-mechanisms/

http://www.livescience.com/53268-jur...ed-bodies.html

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...05-glzvrl.html

http://westerndigs.org/top-5-fossil-...-west-in-2015/
WhatJoeThinks
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by njp:
“Luckily, they were able to recover some of his DNA from a piece of amber and recreate him.”

Life, uh, finds a way.
Shrike
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by njp:
“Luckily, they were able to recover some of his DNA from a piece of amber and recreate him.”

Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Life, uh, finds a way.”

But they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should!

Now Keyser Soze prowls DS again!
Keyser_Soze1
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“But they were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should!

Now Keyser Soze prowls DS again!”

Keyser_Soze1
08-01-2016
The Spinosaurus saga rumbles on, the Palaeontology year of 2015 in review (with predictions for 2016) and theropod lek (mating display) behaviour in the brutal sauropod killer Acrocanthosaurus.

https://qilong.wordpress.com/2016/01...t-spinosaurus/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0tqDtk_gZM

http://www.livescience.com/53294-din...-evidence.html

http://news.discovery.com/animals/di...als-160107.htm

http://news.sciencemag.org/plants-an...irds-woo-mates
CLL Dodge
08-01-2016
Great news, Keyser's back. We didn't do a great job of keeping this thread on the front page where it belongs.
Kapellmeister
08-01-2016
Originally Posted by njp:
“Luckily, they were able to recover some of his DNA from a piece of amber and recreate him.”

TelevisionUser
08-01-2016
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Great news, Keyser's back. We didn't do a great job of keeping this thread on the front page where it belongs.”

However, some of us did try to the keep the threads going by the posting of new and relevant items.

Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“The Spinosaurus saga rumbles on, the Palaeontology year of 2015 in review (with predictions for 2016) and theropod lek (mating display) behaviour in the brutal sauropod killer Acrocanthosaurus.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/di...als-160107.htm

http://news.sciencemag.org/plants-an...irds-woo-mates”

Those reports are quite interesting because they show that the mating ritual behaviour was ingrained and had been developing and going on for millions of years.

That very display behaviour can, of course, be seen in the descendents of the dinosaurs, the birds, as we can see right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcCP4_R8QBw
Keyser_Soze1
08-01-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“However, some of us did try to the keep the threads going by the posting of new and relevant items.


Those reports are quite interesting because they show that the mating ritual behaviour was ingrained and had been developing and going on for millions of years.

That very display behaviour can, of course, be seen in the descendents of the dinosaurs, the birds, as we can see right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcCP4_R8QBw”

Yes, and it was much appreciated - I expected the thread to disappear.

What I want in 2016 is the discovery of some superbly preserved fossils that finally prove that all dinosaurs (not just the theropods) had feathers or proto-feathers - even the mighty sauropods.
ThatGuy11200
10-01-2016
There have been some interesting developments in the world of palaeoanthropology. Possible evidence of archaic hominids surviving until the last 11,000 years, in China. That evidence includes a possible hybrid of modern and archaic humans. (These are basically the same article, but they have different pictures.)

https://www.newscientist.com/article...aves-and-beds/

https://www.newscientist.com/article...aves-and-beds/

I hope they manage to get some good DNA samples from these. The discovery of the Denisovans from DNA evidence a few years ago was very exciting.
Keyser_Soze1
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by ThatGuy11200:
“There have been some interesting developments in the world of palaeoanthropology. Possible evidence of archaic hominids surviving until the last 11,000 years, in China. That evidence includes a possible hybrid of modern and archaic humans. (These are basically the same article, but they have different pictures.)

https://www.newscientist.com/article...aves-and-beds/

https://www.newscientist.com/article...aves-and-beds/

I hope they manage to get some good DNA samples from these. The discovery of the Denisovans from DNA evidence a few years ago was very exciting.”

Very good stuff.

Loads of bits and bobs (most from late last year).

http://markwitton-com.blogspot.co.uk...us-part-1.html

http://markwitton-com.blogspot.co.uk...us-part-2.html

http://markwitton-com.blogspot.co.uk...ughts-for.html

http://siberiantimes.com/science/cas...siberian-cold/

http://www.eartharchives.org/article...e-for-a-mouth/

http://www.statepress.com/article/20...lica-sound-art

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/25/as...saurs-special/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/wild_thin...o_erectus.html

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....tyrannosaurus/
Keyser_Soze1
10-01-2016
More stories from late last year.

http://antediluviansalad.blogspot.co...including.html

http://www.theguardian.com/science/b...P=share_btn_tw

http://phys.org/news/2015-12-austral...-revealed.html

https://mostlymammoths.wordpress.com...roject-part-1/

https://mostlymammoths.wordpress.com...search-part-2/

http://www.livescience.com/53085-pat...lesiosaur.html

http://www.livescience.com/53122-sai...iscovered.html

http://www.livescience.com/53110-tin...mily-tree.html

http://antediluviansalad.blogspot.co...cavenator.html

http://phys.org/news/2015-12-burgess...te-oldest.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...dinosaurs.html

One for the Creationists.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...still-monkeys/

Even more articles.

http://www.livescience.com/53150-swi...esiosaurs.html

http://kcur.org/post/meet-dakotarapt...ether#stream/0

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....striped-coats/

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the...overed-in-2015

http://www.slate.com/blogs/wild_thin...d_awesome.html

That's your lot for now!
CLL Dodge
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by ThatGuy11200:
“There have been some interesting developments in the world of palaeoanthropology. Possible evidence of archaic hominids surviving until the last 11,000 years, in China. That evidence includes a possible hybrid of modern and archaic humans. (These are basically the same article, but they have different pictures.)

https://www.newscientist.com/article...aves-and-beds/

https://www.newscientist.com/article...aves-and-beds/

I hope they manage to get some good DNA samples from these. The discovery of the Denisovans from DNA evidence a few years ago was very exciting.”

Would be great if recent (even living) non-Sapiens hominins were discovered but without that DNA it's going to be difficult to distinguish between variation within a single species (i.e. ours) and variation between two different species.
Keyser_Soze1
10-01-2016
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“Would be great if recent (even living) non-Sapiens hominins were discovered but without that DNA it's going to be difficult to distinguish between variation within a single species (i.e. ours) and variation between two different species.”

It is interesting to speculate if any of our relatives/direct ancestors survived long enough to become distant legends in folk memory.

For example Trolls = Neanderthals?

Another legendary animal the Unicorn may well have had it's origins in the very last surviving Elasmotherium.

Who knows?

Just something to think about.
Keyser_Soze1
11-01-2016
Glyplodont shell discovered in Argentina, Cretaceous mantids in Amber, Machimosaurus rex and the extinction of history's largest primate - Gigantopithecus.

http://www.natureworldnews.com/artic...-argentina.htm

http://www.livescience.com/53311-cre...tis-amber.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...-paleontology/

http://www.livescience.com/53313-big...t-dweller.html
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