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The Palaeontology thread
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Keyser_Soze1
13-01-2016
I personally think that the evidence that the 'gigapod' Amphicoelias existed is very strong indeed - and several sets of vast footprints around the world certainly show that sauropods could reach this size (or even larger),

It's just a question of time before we find the fossilised skeletal remains to prove it.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...-have-existed/

What is it that makes us human?

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160...something-else
Keyser_Soze1
13-01-2016
David Attenborough's new documentary about the vast (as yet unnamed) 37 metre long Titanosaur discovered in 2014.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...giant-dinosaur

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...ggest-dinosaur

http://svpow.com/2016/01/12/no-david...-of-its-femur/

Tristan the T. rex research.

http://www.naturkundemuseum.berlin/e...search-tristan

New mass estimates for the prehistoric Giraffe relative Sivatherium giganteum, more on Machimosaurus rex and how the remarkably preserved animals and plants of Lujiatun may have met their demise.

http://www.livescience.com/53348-gir...-ruminant.html

http://www.natureworldnews.com/artic...-bus-video.htm

https://theconversation.com/dinosaur...-torrent-40402
Shrike
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“It is interesting to speculate if any of our relatives/direct ancestors survived long enough to become distant legends in folk memory.

For example Trolls = Neanderthals?

Another legendary animal the Unicorn may well have had it's origins in the very last surviving Elasmotherium.

Who knows?

Just something to think about. ”

Its been suggested the Chinese style dragon is based on fossil serpentine sea reptiles that would've occasionally been exposed relatively whole in the desert.
Also the Greek legend of the Cyclops was from people finding mammoth skulls - mistaking the central hole where the trunk emerged for a single eye socket.
Keyser_Soze1
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“Its been suggested the Chinese style dragon is based on fossil serpentine sea reptiles that would've occasionally been exposed relatively whole in the desert.
Also the Greek legend of the Cyclops was from people finding mammoth skulls - mistaking the central hole where the trunk emerged for a single eye socket.”

Yes the mammoth skulls being mistaken for the remains of Cyclops is particularly understandable.

Head crest sexual display in Protoceratops and the story behind the illustration (most notably the reason for the lack of filaments or bristles).

http://www.theguardian.com/science/l...lays-new-study

https://archosaurmusings.wordpress.c...oceratops-art/

Charting the growth of Chasmosaurus.

https://uofa.ualberta.ca/science/sci...y/babydinosaur

Finally, life and rocks may have co-evolved together.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...rth-180957807/
Keyser_Soze1
16-01-2016
The 37 metre long reconstruction of the (as yet unnamed) Titanosaur makes it's debut at the American Museum of Natural History (AMNH).

I still think that the estimated mass of this gigantic animal (70 tons or so) is rather low but then again (as detailed before on here) sauropods had a variety of weight saving adaptations to ensure that they weighed as little as was biomechanically possible.

http://www.livescience.com/53383-tit...saur-amnh.html

http://www.livescience.com/53382-tit...um-photos.html

The brutal battles of the Nimravids.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...les-180957841/
Keyser_Soze1
16-01-2016
A brilliant National Geographic feature article on the evolution of the eye.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...n-of-eyes-text

How ironic that the utterly lethal Box jellyfish have (remarkably) evolved to stage three vision - talk about the eyes of a cold blooded killer!
Keyser_Soze1
18-01-2016
Various stories.

The most interesting of which is the new paper on the Titanosaur Notocolossus gonzalezparejasi and the evolution of the sauropod hind foot - they had to carry a tremendous amount of weight after all.

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep19165

http://blog.everythingdinosaur.co.uk...on-a-diet.html

http://blog.everythingdinosaur.co.uk...-dinosaur.html

http://gimpasaura.blogspot.ca/2016/0...-dinosaur.html

http://blogs.plos.org/paleocomm/2016...-russian-seas/
jesaya
18-01-2016
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“A brilliant National Geographic feature article on the evolution of the eye.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...n-of-eyes-text

How ironic that the utterly lethal Box jellyfish have (remarkably) evolved to stage three vision - talk about the eyes of a cold blooded killer! ”

I have always found it odd that anti-evolutionists choose the eye as an example for their challenges to evolution when I have always thought it one of the greatest examples of why evolution makes such perfect sense.

Anyway, if we are picking favourites, the bay scallop is mine... that critter will be watching you wherever you are.
Keyser_Soze1
19-01-2016
Originally Posted by jesaya:
“I have always found it odd that anti-evolutionists choose the eye as an example for their challenges to evolution when I have always thought it one of the greatest examples of why evolution makes such perfect sense.

Anyway, if we are picking favourites, the bay scallop is mine... that critter will be watching you wherever you are.”

Creationists really shot themselves in the foot when using the eye as an argument against evolution.
Keyser_Soze1
20-01-2016
Stories to give that incredibly dumb Creationist redneck Palin nightmares.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/ex...yes-160120.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNVqekz_SCk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03fsy6x

http://www.earthtouchnews.com/discov...rs-of-all-time

http://phys.org/news/2016-01-fossil-...ries-huge.html

http://www.hakaimagazine.com/article...our-first-fish

https://anatomistsguide.wordpress.co...ian-dinosaurs/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/scie...-unveiled.html
Keyser_Soze1
22-01-2016
David's new documentary is on Sunday on BBC1 - it should be very interesting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35362731

More on Notocolossus - yet another massive Titanosaur.

http://svpow.com/2016/01/20/notocolossus-is-a-beast/

India's 'Dinosaur Princess' and the possible role of sleep in our rise to dominance over the planet.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel...957798/?no-ist

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160...need-so-little
Keyser_Soze1
22-01-2016
An excellent article by Mark Witton on one of the the prehistoric 'supercrocs' - the monstrous Deinosuchus.

http://markwitton-com.blogspot.co.uk...igatoroid.html

The very sad (and incredibly recent) tale of the poor extinct Moas.

https://twilightbeasts.wordpress.com...e-moa-is-lost/
Ber
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Creationists really shot themselves in the foot when using the eye as an argument against evolution. ”

Doesn't the eye actually see things upside down, and the brain have to turn it right way up again? Plus the massive blind spot here the opticnerve hits the retina.

If someone actually designed that then they would need their heads examining
Keyser_Soze1
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by Ber:
“Doesn't the eye actually see things upside down, and the brain have to turn it right way up again? Plus the massive blind spot here the opticnerve hits the retina.

If someone actually designed that then they would need their heads examining ”

Yes indeed.

https://thehumanevolutionblog.files....eevolution.gif

Cephalopods (for example) have no blind spot - remind me when Paul the 'Oracle' Octopus is coming back as the Messiah again?
TelevisionUser
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“It is interesting to speculate if any of our relatives/direct ancestors survived long enough to become distant legends in folk memory.

For example Trolls = Neanderthals?

Another legendary animal the Unicorn may well have had it's origins in the very last surviving Elasmotherium.

Who knows?

Just something to think about. ”


My own view there is that the real origin of trolls is ardent and uncritical Tory supporters in the Digital Spy politics forum.


But I digress so back on topic:

Grisly find suggests humans inhabited Arctic 45,000 years ago (that is about 30,000+ years earlier than previously thought)

Immunity from interbreeding (more light has been shed on the consequences of different types of human mating crosses)
Keyser_Soze1
24-01-2016
For anyone interested just a quick reminder that 'Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur' is on BBC1 at 18.30 tonight.

It looks like an excellent programme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03dwy5z
TelevisionUser
24-01-2016
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“For anyone interested just a quick reminder that 'Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur' is on BBC1 at 18.30 tonight.

It looks like an excellent programme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03dwy5z”

^^^ Dromedary Bump One*

Here is the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvVIdeG29Wc

Go on, you know you really want to watch it - BBC One, 6.30pm, this evening.

*
Spoiler

Know your camels 101:

DrOmedary camel = One hump

BacTrian camel = Two humps

So now you know.
swingaleg
24-01-2016
I'm going to watch the Attenborough programme at 6.30............should be good

Bit strange timing though........I'd have thought it was a natural for the BBC4 or BBC2 9pm slot which is where nearly all the decent documentaries get shown
zackai48
24-01-2016
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Stories to give that incredibly dumb Creationist redneck Palin nightmares.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/ex...yes-160120.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNVqekz_SCk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03fsy6x

http://www.earthtouchnews.com/discov...rs-of-all-time

http://phys.org/news/2016-01-fossil-...ries-huge.html

http://www.hakaimagazine.com/article...our-first-fish

https://anatomistsguide.wordpress.co...ian-dinosaurs/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/scie...-unveiled.html”

I doubt many creationists would doubt that dinosaurs used to walk the earth, but would just dispute when this happened.
Keyser_Soze1
24-01-2016
Originally Posted by zackai48:
“I doubt many creationists would doubt that dinosaurs used to walk the earth, but would just dispute when this happened.”

After nightfall at 6 PM on Saturday, October 22, 4004 BC?
TelevisionUser
24-01-2016
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“I'm going to watch the Attenborough programme at 6.30............should be good

Bit strange timing though........I'd have thought it was a natural for the BBC4 or BBC2 9pm slot which is where nearly all the decent documentaries get shown”

It turned out to be an excellent documentary and anyone who missed it can see it on BBC iPlayer here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...giant-dinosaur
Keyser_Soze1
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“It turned out to be an excellent documentary and anyone who missed it can see it on BBC iPlayer here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...giant-dinosaur”

I agree.

Last night's documentary was as good as a dinosaur programme aimed at a general audience could ever be - and David's sheer boyish enthusiasm (at the age of almost ninety) was a delight.

The BBC at it's very best. :thumbsup:

A couple more links.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zcnycwx

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zyrx34j
Keyser_Soze1
28-01-2016
Can't bloody sleep.

Kulindadromeus and 'dino-fuzz'.

https://qilong.wordpress.com/2016/01...nt-in-kulinda/

More on the adorable (and beautifully preserved) Chasmosaurus baby.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....dinosaur-baby/
Keyser_Soze1
28-01-2016
The Carcharodon v Carcharocles dispute rumbles on.

Let's just call it Megalodon.

A very nice illustration of the evolution of the massive Megatooth sharks.

http://orig04.deviantart.net/0932/f/...ca-d9fte5i.jpg

Yes indeed folks - Dinosaurs, Birds and Crocodilians could/can take a piss!

http://svpow.com/2016/01/28/yes-folk...-pee/#comments

Yet another article on the gigantic unnamed Titanosaur.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...957955/?no-ist
Keyser_Soze1
29-01-2016
Ray Troll and his fascination with the incredible 'buzz-toothed' super shark Helicoprion.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...oll-180957923/

More evidence that humans contributed to the extinction of Australia's wonderful recent Megafauna.

http://phys.org/news/2016-01-ancient...lian-bird.html

http://www.livescience.com/53528-hum...xtinction.html

An analysis of theropod speed.

http://phys.org/news/2016-01-paleont...h-ability.html

http://news.discovery.com/animals/di...urs-160127.htm

Another of Brian's Palaeo profiles.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....ys-dawn-beast/
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