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The Palaeontology thread
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Bex_123
09-06-2014
Originally Posted by Janey Joyce:
“Russell is extremely sexy and hot. Women are drawn to bad boys.”

Convincing!
Keyser_Soze1
09-06-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Killer Whales have to be up there for most fascinating animal for me. I've seen this and the way they have learned to induce tonic immobility, in the shark having by butting it, at speed stunning it and then flipping it is upside down is amazing.

It's also amazing how different pods have their own unique language and hunting techniques/ specialist prey, so not all killer whales would be able to do it (or rather have been taught how to do it). Each pod specialises in different things of course which is astonishing.

The other reason I suspected it would't be an orca is that the modus operandi just didn't seem to add up here.

How can people not love killer whales? Awesome animals. ”

Despite all the coverage on the internet it has only happened once in all recorded interactions between Orcas and White sharks and the shark was a juvenile.

As far as I am aware no fully mature White shark has ever been targeted by anything other than another White shark.

But many other shark species have been recorded as prey for Orcas.

Odontocetes are inferior to a similar sized shark (Dolphins are frequently the prey of large species of sharks - forget about Flipper and the tabloid hype).

I agree about how awesome Orcas are. What fascinates me most is their intellect - perhaps the most powerful of any animal on the planet.

What is really frightening to think about is that they would have been just another a prey species for Megalodon if the super-shark was around now.

After all even Livyatan melvillei (the prehistoric killer Sperm Whale) could not compete with the most powerful predator ever to exist on the planet.
Keyser_Soze1
09-06-2014
Originally Posted by Bex_123:
“Convincing! ”

Keyser_Soze1
10-06-2014
A further example of what a larger White shark is capable of doing to a smaller one, or to any other poor sod who pisses it off for that matter.

This event happened off Australia in 2009.

A 3 metre shark was badly injured and sending out distress signals (after getting tangled up in netting) when this happened to it.

The attacker was more than six metres long and approaching three tons judging from the huge bite radius.

* Do not click if easily upset.

http://www.sea-way.org/blog/CannibalShark1.JPG
BeethovensPiano
10-06-2014
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“A further example of what a larger White shark is capable of doing to a smaller one, or to any other poor sod who pisses it off for that matter.

This event happened off Australia in 2009.

A 3 metre shark was badly injured and sending out distress signals (after getting tangled up in netting) when this happened to it.

The attacker was more than six metres long and approaching three tons judging from the huge bite radius.

* Do not click if easily upset.

http://www.sea-way.org/blog/CannibalShark1.JPG”

oh..judging the expression on it's face it seems to be in pain.
BeethovensPiano
10-06-2014
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Megalodon - the super shark - at a maximum length of around 20 metres and a weight of over 100 tons the largest and most powerful predator ever to live on the planet.

Plenty more to come on this monster but for now a couple of nice reconstructions.

The first preying on a prehistoric elephant (Platybelodon) the second on a bull sperm whale and then a size comparison with Tyrannosaurus rex (which actually should really have feathers).

http://i.imgur.com/d1pdCxQ.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PvJpkZhMnn...reserved)..jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8650/...972738224t.jpg”

MEGALODON !!!!

Oh, did you see that BBC program "Sea Monsters" with Nigel Marven? The Megaladon episode was great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV6epfjS5HI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzYM_-1J85Y
Keyser_Soze1
10-06-2014
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“MEGALADON !!!!

Oh, did you see that BBC program "Sea Monsters" with Nigel Marven? The Megaladon episode was great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV6epfjS5HI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzYM_-1J85Y”

Yes it was a superb episode and if anything the Meg was smaller than real life, since the programme was made new estimates of a fully mature female Megalodon range from 18-20 metres and up to 100 tons - rather than the 16-metre long, 50-ton behemoth shown on the show!
Keyser_Soze1
11-06-2014
For all the ladies, one of the world's oldest todgers.

http://io9.com/the-first-genital-in-...-pa-1588659685
Keyser_Soze1
11-06-2014
COCKS! KNOCKERS! FANNIES!


That should get everyone's attention.
Keyser_Soze1
12-06-2014
I cannot sleep so here are a few nice images of Shastasaurus sikanniensis .

At around 21 metres in length it was the largest Ichthyosaur (and marine reptile) so far discovered. There were several species but sikanniensis was the most massive by far - and it is very unusual in that it may have been a suction feeder (it was toothless) creating a vacuum to devour the unfortunate cephalopods that it fed upon.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...ca-d77dm5s.jpg

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...va-d5ws0tp.jpg

http://masahatto2.p2.bindsite.jp/_sr...s_20140215.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...or-d7brt8s.png

Also below there are some interesting articles on the great beast.

http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/...stasaurus.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shastasaurus

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/no.../#.U5kVZfldXuI
jzee
12-06-2014
That was pretty big Keyser, how big is a blue whale?
Keyser_Soze1
12-06-2014
Originally Posted by jzee:
“That was pretty big Keyser, how big is a blue whale?”

The largest ever recorded was 33 metres long - Southern Blue whales are larger than those in the Northern Hemisphere where they reach a maximum of about 27 metres.

It is important to remember that with many prehistoric animals we only have one specimen, so that we have no idea of the size ranges for most species.

Many dinosaur skeletons are of sub-adults for example.

So this ichthyosaur could have grown much larger than we currently know.
marc_p88
12-06-2014
Does anyone remember this story about a year ago. It's truly awesome and right on our doorstep! I don't know why, but i would have loved to have been present during that time period, just to witness magnificent creatures like this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...d-12-tons.html
Keyser_Soze1
12-06-2014
Originally Posted by marc_p88:
“Does anyone remember this story about a year ago. It's truly awesome and right on our doorstep! I don't know why, but i would have loved to have been present during that time period, just to witness magnificent creatures like this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...d-12-tons.html”

It's now called Pliosaurus kevani.

The various species of Pliosaurus, P. funkei ('Predator X'), P. macromeras and 'The Monster of Aremberri' were the largest species of Pliosaur - and some of the most formidable predators that ever lived on this planet.

That weight estimate is far too low in my opinion, Kronosaurus queenlandicus weighed about 11 tons at 10 metres long, so a 13 metre pliosaur would weigh more than 20 tons.

And an 18 metre specimen (macromeras and others could possibly have reached this) would weigh more than 50.

There is loads on the web about these monsters.

Here is P. macromeras to give you an idea of it's vast size.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...ca-d78b6c9.jpg
AOTB
12-06-2014
I always used to love the human size vs dinosaur size pictures as a kid.

Nothing's changed. That Kevin chaps a brute! (yeah yeah I know it's Kevan, but Kevin the dino sounds better).

The 'Archbishop' still wins best name for a dinosaur competition though.
Keyser_Soze1
12-06-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“I always used to love the human size vs dinosaur size pictures as a kid.

Nothing's changed. That Kevin chaps a brute! (yeah yeah I know it's Kevan, but Kevin the dino sounds better).

The 'Archbishop' still wins best name for a dinosaur competition though. ”

I am still the same, I just love my scale charts.

And the 'Archbishop' is a fantastic nickname!
archiver
12-06-2014
The first 1:30 of this trailer for No Man's Sky (PS4 game in development) looks like it could provide some interesting territory and species to discover.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27807167

Pretty good for just a small team from Guildford...

YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLtmEjqzg7M#t=191
Hogface
13-06-2014
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“This is just a place for all the latest news, discoveries, theories, artwork or anything else for members on here who are interested in dinosaurs and the prehistoric world.

Nothing spectacular to start with, just a few nice size comparison charts starting with some of the largest sauropod dinosaurs.

These are some of the most accurate you can find on the web.

Enjoy.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...Paleo_King.jpg

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...an-d6909lc.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...ng-d5aewbf.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...dinosaurs1.png”

I love dinosaurs.

I've watched Jurassic Park 43 times.
Keyser_Soze1
13-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hogface:
“I love dinosaurs.

I've watched Jurassic Park 43 times.”

There's nothing wrong with that.

The bloody awful sequels are another matter however!

Here are a few articles on the latest study on dinosaur physiology, and an interesting read they are too.

Dinosaurs, White sharks and Leatherbacks in the same paper just has to be worth a look in my opinion.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....ites-echidnas/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27794723

http://news.yahoo.com/warm-blooded-c...201115255.html
Keyser_Soze1
13-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hogface:
“I love dinosaurs.

I've watched Jurassic Park 43 times.”

I forgot to say that even though the film is now over 20 years old, Jurassic Park's T.rex is still the best recreation of the most powerful land predator in our planet's history.

Of course now we know that some (probably all) Tyrannosaurid species had feathers, but for it's time it was the most awesome thing that I had ever seen onscreen.

http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/mida...icpark_BIG.jpg
Keyser_Soze1
15-06-2014
Wonderful new fossil paddle prints in China (what a treasure trove of fossils are coming out of this country in the last few decades).

They reveal the locomotive habits of some of the very oldest marine reptiles - the Nothosaurs.

http://www.bris.ac.uk/news/2014/june/paddle-prints.html

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ancient-pad...rs-ago-1452176
Keyser_Soze1
15-06-2014
Say hello to one of your most distant ancestors (at over half a billion years old) and the very reason why you have jaws to speak with in the first place.

Metaspriggina walcotti.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/12/sc...jaws.html?_r=0

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=11272669

http://www.calgaryherald.com/technol...698/story.html
Keyser_Soze1
15-06-2014
An nice little article by the brilliant Darren Naish on the incredible variety of prehistoric crocodylomorphs.

The living Crocodiles, Alligators and Gharials are just a tiny remnant of the diversity which once existed in this clade.

There are plenty of links at the bottom of the piece as well.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...ocodylomorphs/
BeethovensPiano
17-06-2014
Back to Megalodon, has anyone watched this masterpiece of film making?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_i_C1_D6OE

There is a familiar face in it too.

ChrisHay
17-06-2014
Maybe we will be able to recreate dinosaurs from their dead flesh. These stories are kept suspiciously quiet, maybe because they totally undermine & contradict current scientific theories.


http://phys.org/news/2013-04-scienti...in-fossil.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ino-mummy.html

http://creation.com/fresh-dinosaur-bones-found

In 1961 a petroleum geologist discovered a large, half-metre-thick bone bed. As the bones were fresh, not permineralized, he assumed that these were recent bison bones. It took 20 years for scientists to recognize duckbill dinosaur bones in this deposit as well as the bones of horned dinosaurs, and large and small carnivorous dinosaurs.

It took science 20 years to tell the difference between bison & dinosaur bones. I see no reason to have faith in all current scientific assumptions.

"How these bones could have remained in fresh condition for 70 million years is a perplexing question.
Geologists claim that these forest remains are about 45 million years old. Nevertheless, the wood and leaf debris are astonishingly well preserved. The plant material is not petrified. The logs are still wood which can be sawn and burnt. The leaf debris and cones include some specimens recognizable as dawn redwood....

The obvious conclusion is that these bones were deposited in relatively recent times. This bone bed is stunning evidence that the time of the dinosaurs was not millions of years ago, but perhaps only thousands. It is time geologists recognized the implications of their own data."

Science examines the evidence, tests/disproves theories.
Why are these discoveries being ignored? Is it because they do not fit in with current theory?

There are many stories from many parts of the world, that we are taught now to ridicule. Is it time to accept that dragons are in fact dinosaurs and man & beast were around at the same time?

No I am not a creationist, in the traditional sense - despite the link to creation.com
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