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Old 18-05-2014, 21:31
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All good things must come to a end, but they are both British institutions.. will they ever end and if so when?
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Old 18-05-2014, 21:43
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I doubt they will make 100.
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Old 18-05-2014, 21:50
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All good things must come to a end, but they are both British institutions.. will they ever end and if so when?
It's possible, i suppose who knows what will happen in 30 or 40 years time for example, soaps may not be popular then and after all ratings seem to be the be all and end all for TV executives, if they aren't getting the viewers they won't want to pay the money for producing the shows, actors etc. I can't see either EE or Corrie finishing any time soon they will probably still be here and still going strong in 10 to 15 years time.
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Old 18-05-2014, 22:14
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Think it depend how old you are

Do I think Corrie will go on to its 100 probably not, but I don't think Tony Warren would have thought it would still be around when it started in 1960.

Same goes with Emmerdale.

Also think we will see new soaps.
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Old 18-05-2014, 22:26
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I think we will see new soap operas that will eventually overshadow the current ones, but i'm pretty sure EE, CS & ED will be around for the time being.

The first current soap opera IMO to go first will be HO.
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Old 18-05-2014, 23:24
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Hard to say. I can't see many TV execs cancelling them lightly - although there is always the odd one that is determined to make a 'mark' and get noticed and cancelling an institution will do that. Plus they might have a vision for a similar programme of their own and the attitude is there is only room for one so the old version has to go.

The whole entertainment industry has changed so much since it started, especially in the last 20 years or so that it is impossible to predict what it will be like in another 20 let alone 50 years time. That said, people will always want good drama with cliffhangers served up in a weekly format. It was Dixkens novels in newspapers 150 years ago, now it is Soaps so I'm sure they'll always exist in some format and why get rid of the ones that are already here and well loved. I do think that if they do get taken off the air, the chances are they will return in a 'next generation' kind of way just as Dallas has and in other genres Doctor Who and the reason we get production after production of things like Robin Hood. Some stories are just too good to leave alone.
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Old 18-05-2014, 23:25
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Funny, I was thinking this only a few minutes ago.

If I reach my full life expectancy, then EE will be 80 when I die, and CS will be 105. A bizarre prospect.
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Old 18-05-2014, 23:27
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I am sure we get a thread like this once a month. The answer is NO.
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Old 18-05-2014, 23:30
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Thing is, less and less young people are watching soaps as it is. So imagine in 30 years time, there will be even less young people and soaps, and their history, won't have the same level of importance that they do today.
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Old 18-05-2014, 23:33
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Thing is, less and less young people are watching soaps as it is. So imagine in 30 years time, there will be even less young people and soaps, and their history, won't have the same level of importance that they do today.
They are not really it's just they are finding new ways of catching up. At present Youtube,I Player/Demand are not included in the ratings.
The soaps are on 4/5/6 times a week every week of the year and are still the most watched shows (Minus specials/events ect) they have a decent share and still manage to have people talking.
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Old 18-05-2014, 23:33
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corrie like the archers will last forever. as for eastenders it will be around for many, many years to come.
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Old 18-05-2014, 23:46
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I guess it depends on how many young people are brought up with it. I've been around Corrie and EE since I was young and only properly started watching EE when I was around 13/14 because it's what the rest of my family have done. As long as that practice continues, the main soaps will certainly last.

HO will likely see it's demise within 10-20 years. It's not at the untouchable status of Corrie and EastEnders and C4 has a tendency to be reinvigorate itself a lot.
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Old 18-05-2014, 23:53
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TV is changing so rapidly these days that its hard to say where a soap will be at in even 10-20 years time. I know they're quite different but look at the US soaps. There were 11 of them on air in the 1999 & now there's only 4. Online programming is gaining popularity in recent years so who knows if this is where soaps could be headed in a few years time? Of what's on air at present, I'd say that Hollyoaks could be the first to move exclusively to E4 or to take the form of an online only series on 4OD. The show has a younger audience who are already used to consuming the show in different ways whereas Corrie & ED viewers would be older and a bit more entrenched in their viewing habits. If Neighbours ever finishes, I'd say we could see a new UK soap on Channel 5 at some point.
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Old 19-05-2014, 01:21
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I don't see any of them being around in 20 years to be honest. Even though they get solid viewing figures and everything, I don't see it lasting. They have been getting lower and lower and I don't think their respective TV channels being very happy about that.

I'd be more than happy to be wrong though.
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Old 19-05-2014, 01:31
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TV is moving away from these kind of shows. Tastes are even shifting from the traditional US 24 episode series to shorter ones on cable.

As was pointed out US soaps declined rapidly recently and although not the same as British ones it could be an omen for the future given how popular US soaps once were.

Also with more channels and more pressure on channels to secure advertising revenue they won't tolerate drops in viewing figures since soaps are expensive to make.

So 20-30 years I would be surprised if all these soaps were still on out screens.
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Old 19-05-2014, 01:49
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I hope to see EastEnders survive when I'm old and grey!
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Old 19-05-2014, 04:16
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I feel my generation (90s kids) were the last to experience that 'family sitting around the one telly' thing. Nowadays kids have laptops and TVs in their rooms. I know not every kid does but the whole culture of TV watching has changed to the point where most people don't seem to make the effort to tune in unless it's something like Broadchurch or Downton. Soaps aren't 'don't miss' TV, they're routine, everyday, continuing drama that less and less people seem to have time for.

Saying that CS and HO still pull in good ratings but it's what will happen when my generation is middle-aged/older and doesn't bother, and then their kids won't either.
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Old 19-05-2014, 04:31
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I feel my generation (90s kids) were the last to experience that 'family sitting around the one telly' thing. Nowadays kids have laptops and TVs in their rooms. I know not every kid does but the whole culture of TV watching has changed to the point where most people don't seem to make the effort to tune in unless it's something like Broadchurch or Downton. Soaps aren't 'don't miss' TV, they're routine, everyday, continuing drama that less and less people seem to have time for.

Saying that CS and HO still pull in good ratings but it's what will happen when my generation is middle-aged/older and doesn't bother, and then their kids won't either.
Yes I think that is probably very true. I'd say that even by the 90s it had changed from my day (child of the 70s, teen of the 80s) due to multiplex cinemas springing up. 5 terrestrial channels, sky taking hold and multiple tvs in houses but I agree that the change in the last 10 years due to everybody having digital tv after analogue was switched off and most having laptops, mobiles, x boxes etc has completely changed the playing field. I'd say that reality tv has taken over from soaps in being the thing that is watched live as a big social 'event'. You don't want to find out who won BGT ow who was kicked off SCD on Monday morning at School or at work but even that isn't immediate due to the studio audiences leaking stuff. It was why Big Brother was important when it started as you didn't know who was going to be evicted in advance and people really did care. It had a unifying buzz that not much did by 2000.

Soaps can do it but they have to resist the temptation to let so much out in PR that people feel they don't need to watch live.

Perhaps i'm biased as i'm a fan but i'd say something like the Doctor Who 50th anniversary episode is about the biggest tv drama 'event' where people watch live we get these.
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Old 19-05-2014, 04:48
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If Eastenders were to end it would have to be Reg cox waking up, walking through the square past Kathy, Pete and all the originals, then entering the pub asking Angie or Den for a drink before sitting to enjoy it and getting the final Duff Duff. I always hope that back in '85 they filmed a scene like this for when the show does eventually end.
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Old 19-05-2014, 07:53
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If Eastenders were to end it would have to be Reg cox waking up, walking through the square past Kathy, Pete and all the originals, then entering the pub asking Angie or Den for a drink before sitting to enjoy it and getting the final Duff Duff. I always hope that back in '85 they filmed a scene like this for when the show does eventually end.
Sounds like the end of Crossroads in 2003 when Jane Asher was in the supermarket saying she had a funny dream!

I think there'll come a time where the number of episodes each week will be reduced across the board.

If they eventually do this then fingers crossed (in terms of output) the general quality would improve somewhat to add longevity to the soaps.
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Old 19-05-2014, 08:57
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I don't think falling audiences are a problem as they are falling across the board, these programmes are by some margin the most popular overall, and certainly for the Commercial broadcasters, that's pretty much that.

The day they cease to be the big draw for advertisers is the day their future will be questioned.

In terms of the BBC, they have a drama remit which these fall under, and soaps are hugely cheaper to produce than other drama productions. 120 minutes of prime time per week is a huge gap to fill.

I'd say the most likely thing would be if a future government decided to attack the BBC, it would become more of a niche broadcaster and be forced to sell off its populist stuff like Eastenders to other commercial broadcasters. Without the platform of BBC1 primetime, it might well struggle. Personally I'd say its a brave politician that puts Eastenders in doubt .....
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:17
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TV is changing so rapidly these days that its hard to say where a soap will be at in even 10-20 years time. I know they're quite different but look at the US soaps. There were 11 of them on air in the 1999 & now there's only 4. Online programming is gaining popularity in recent years so who knows if this is where soaps could be headed in a few years time? Of what's on air at present, I'd say that Hollyoaks could be the first to move exclusively to E4 or to take the form of an online only series on 4OD. The show has a younger audience who are already used to consuming the show in different ways whereas Corrie & ED viewers would be older and a bit more entrenched in their viewing habits. If Neighbours ever finishes, I'd say we could see a new UK soap on Channel 5 at some point.
Exactly. The US soaps were institutions for years with many more coming and going but now they're a dying breed, replaced by reality/talk show type programmes. It was a shame that the new production house making two of the US soaps had such financial difficulties keeping them online, I think there is a market for more young people type shows there. Corrie and possibly EastEnders will go on for quite a few more years. I can see Hollyoaks finishing, not sure about Emmerdale.
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Old 19-05-2014, 15:36
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Given that many people on these boards are under 30 I think its insane for anyone to be confident the shows wont end in our lifetime especially as the media landscape and society is changing so much.

If monarchies of thousands of years can end Im quite sure tv soaps that exist in 2014 can.

Some perspective Id recommend!
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Old 19-05-2014, 17:05
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I doubt they will make 100.
So do I!Each soaps origins lie in a particular context and point in time and so will their ends.
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Old 19-05-2014, 17:47
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Not in my lifetime.
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