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Filmon
EUROPA
18-05-2014
since the SCOTUS will be almost certainly giving the death blow to FILMON by july
can ANYONE name a FREE STREAM of SD quality that dont use canon drive ???
ovbg
19-05-2014
Originally Posted by EUROPA:
“since the SCOTUS will be almost certainly giving the death blow to FILMON by july
can ANYONE name a FREE STREAM of SD quality that dont use canon drive ???”

An odd statement.

First of all, there is no guarantee that the current court case between various American television networks and Aereo will go against Aereo. It could happen, but it is not written in stone.

Remember, almost everyone thought that Sony would loose the Betamax case against Universal 40 years ago, but it went the other way around. If universal had won, we may have never been allowed to record TV programmes, and this was a much clearer case of copyright protection that should have been leaning more towards Universal.

That said, if the Aereo court case did go against them, it won't shut down FilmOn. FilmOn's largest operation by far is their live UK channels, not their US ones. And this court case will only affect US live streams (the US does not hold global jurisdiction)

So, I presume by your question that you are referring to accessing free live US channels in SD (not that FilmOn was actually SD under their free service, but I digress).

There will still be USTVNow. I think their web access (sub-SD) is still free and they have permission to transmit their channels so won't be affected by this court case. But at the end of the day, you may have to pay to access live US channels. After-all, it is not exactly a standard service, and if you want something above the normal, it then becomes premium if you know what I mean.

Nimble TV also offer live US channels, but at a cost and unlike USTVNow which is designed for US servicemen abroad, Nimble TV expect you to have a US postal address. Their service may not be affected by this court case as they use different technology and may have permission from Dish Networks (not entirely sure on that, but they were after agreements when I first contacted them).
EUROPA
19-05-2014
Originally Posted by ovbg:
“An odd statement.

First of all, there is no guarantee that the current court case between various American television networks and Aereo will go against Aereo. It could happen, but it is not written in stone.

Remember, almost everyone thought that Sony would loose the Betamax case against Universal 40 years ago, but it went the other way around. If universal had won, we may have never been allowed to record TV programmes, and this was a much clearer case of copyright protection that should have been leaning more towards Universal.

That said, if the Aereo court case did go against them, it won't shut down FilmOn. FilmOn's largest operation by far is their live UK channels, not their US ones. And this court case will only affect US live streams (the US does not hold global jurisdiction)

So, I presume by your question that you are referring to accessing free live US channels in SD (not that FilmOn was actually SD under their free service, but I digress).

There will still be USTVNow. I think their web access (sub-SD) is still free and they have permission to transmit their channels so won't be affected by this court case. But at the end of the day, you may have to pay to access live US channels. After-all, it is not exactly a standard service, and if you want something above the normal, it then becomes premium if you know what I mean.

Nimble TV also offer live US channels, but at a cost and unlike USTVNow which is designed for US servicemen abroad, Nimble TV expect you to have a US postal address. Their service may not be affected by this court case as they use different technology and may have permission from Dish Networks (not entirely sure on that, but they were after agreements when I first contacted them).”

1.well good luck thinking that AEREO will win after this was said
"Your technological model," Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. dourly told Aereo's lawyer, David C. Frederick, "is based solely on circumventing legal prohibitions that you don't want to comply with."

Justice Sonia Sotomayor did not seem persuaded. "It's not logical to me," she said, "that you can make these millions of copies and essentially sell them to the public."

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said Aereo's business was built on taking content without paying for it. "You are the only player so far that doesn't pay any royalties at any stage," she told Mr. Frederick.

Some justices said they found the service suspiciously complicated. "Is there any reason you did it other than not to violate the copyright laws?" Justice Antonin Scalia asked Mr. Frederick.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arg...13-461&TY=2013

FILMON IS ONLY A US COMPANY - it only has a desk and two chairs in a rented office in europe and has one part time worker who shuts at 1pm t pick up her kids from school
itsSTUDIO ´in canon drive is SMALLER then the auto mcdonalds down the street ..
and as for ´´the uk operations are the main business´´amazing ´you dont really believe that do you ??? . i bet there is some frenchman saying the same somewhere ..

FILMON - TOTAL CLOSED - the FBI is not going to seize the ´´bad us servers´´ and leave the ´´good uk servers ´´´ i was reading that when they seized one office they unscrewed the toilet and took that !!!

FILMON HD standard is almost up to SD quality ...

like DIANA ROSS . im still waiting for a SD QUALITY UK TV FREE LINK ...


FIILMON IS TOAST 7/7 ....
hmeister
19-05-2014
Originally Posted by EUROPA:
“1.well good luck thinking that AEREO will win after this was said
"Your technological model," Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. dourly told Aereo's lawyer, David C. Frederick, "is based solely on circumventing legal prohibitions that you don't want to comply with."

Justice Sonia Sotomayor did not seem persuaded. "It's not logical to me," she said, "that you can make these millions of copies and essentially sell them to the public."

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said Aereo's business was built on taking content without paying for it. "You are the only player so far that doesn't pay any royalties at any stage," she told Mr. Frederick.

Some justices said they found the service suspiciously complicated. "Is there any reason you did it other than not to violate the copyright laws?" Justice Antonin Scalia asked Mr. Frederick.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arg...13-461&TY=2013

FILMON IS ONLY A US COMPANY - it only has a desk and two chairs in a rented office in europe and has one part time worker who shuts at 1pm t pick up her kids from school
itsSTUDIO ´in canon drive is SMALLER then the auto mcdonalds down the street ..
and as for ´´the uk operations are the main business´´amazing ´you dont really believe that do you ??? . i bet there is some frenchman saying the same somewhere ..

FILMON - TOTAL CLOSED - the FBI is not going to seize the ´´bad us servers´´ and leave the ´´good uk servers ´´´ i was reading that when they seized one office they unscrewed the toilet and took that !!!

FILMON HD standard is almost up to SD quality ...

like DIANA ROSS . im still waiting for a SD QUALITY UK TV FREE LINK ...


FIILMON IS TOAST 7/7 ....”

Looks like somebody has a grudge against FilmOn. Did Alki upset you? Aww
EUROPA
19-05-2014
7
FilmOn X, No. 13-758 at FN 4. The differences between FilmOn and Aereo systems are “minor distinctions in the
sequence in which signals are processed.” However, “the systems are essentially the same, and the parties agree that
there are no legally meaningful differences.”


https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43359.pdf
ovbg
20-05-2014
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“Looks like somebody has a grudge against FilmOn. Did Alki upset you? Aww ”

It certainly seems that way doesn't it
gother
20-05-2014
Filmon and Aero won't be going anywhere, personally i think studios and broadcasters need to grow up a bit.
EUROPA
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by gother:
“Filmon and Aero won't be going anywhere, personally i think studios and broadcasters need to grow up a bit.”

yes you must be right and the GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES - DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE who are against FILMON must be wrong
i know who i have my money on ,,,,anyway court ruling 5-6 weeks . FILMON will be closed or not ... in 5-6 weeks ...we now have ANDROID APP available for IPTV ...just in case the highest judge in the united states changes his mind after saying
Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. dourly (FILMON/AEREO) ´´is based solely on circumventing legal prohibitions that you don't want to comply with."
if i was in the dock,ill be buying my rollup tobacco now
hmeister
21-05-2014
Originally Posted by EUROPA:
“yes you must be right and the GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES - DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE who are against FILMON must be wrong
i know who i have my money on ,,,,anyway court ruling 5-6 weeks . FILMON will be closed or not ... in 5-6 weeks ...we now have ANDROID APP available for IPTV ...just in case the highest judge in the united states changes his mind after saying
Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. dourly (FILMON/AEREO) ´´is based solely on circumventing legal prohibitions that you don't want to comply with."
if i was in the dock,ill be buying my rollup tobacco now ”

I just hope you're proved wrong. Not because I care for the company but because you're posts are HILARIOUS
davor
12-09-2014
You may have noticed that streams on FilmOn recently are very jerky and freeze a lot. FilmOn has recently changed the format in which they broadcast channel streams, from the old Flash, to some new proprietary format. The new streams doesn't seem to work so well, as they freeze and the picture size gets messy. All you have to do to fix this is to revert back to the old flash. Select any UK channel from the list, and on the bottom of the stream window click on settings and then click on Flash (old system). If needed, delete your browser cache. This worked on both my computers and my TV. Some channels are still jerky (Channel 4), but generally it's much better.
radioanorak
12-09-2014
davor
Thanks for the heads up.
I have been thinking it was my system at fault.
It looks like you have to select the old flash system each time you use FilmOn
ovbg
12-09-2014
Tip: The best quality platform to watch filmon is without doubt the iPad or iPhone. Bitrates without a sub on Android, Chromecast or a web browser average 550kbps, while on the iPad or iPhone they average 1150kbps. The difference is extremely noticeable.

The app also works so much better than their web page and has AirPlay.

Anyway, thanks for the tip davor!
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