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how much would Alexandra Burke have earned from her music careee?
I always wondered how much singers like Alexandra Burke would have made from her pop career?,does anyone have an idea what pop stars like her would have made?
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She wouldn't have earned much. Her first album was suuccessful, but only in the UK really. She was signed to Syco at the the time and we all know what they're like...they would have taken the majority of the profits. She has had pretty much no writing credits so she wouldn't really have earned much money in royalties either. If she was smart, she's probably invested any money she did make in property (which I think she actually has done) and that will have given her quite a big income from rental etc. She's also had a few different contracts for things such as makeup, watches. However, the biggest mystery is how she is able to afford to jet off here, there and everywhere in business class all the time and spend loads of time in recording studios all the time...all of this costs big money, especially time in recording studios and no way could she have made enough money through property and a few contracts to afford to do all that. Someone (most likely her U.S record label or management) arer funding all of this, however now that she is going to be playing Whitney Houston, I'm guessing we're going to have to wait until the end of the year before we know the details of who her U.S label/management actually are.
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I'm not sure why particularly Alexandra Burke, but recently she has been estimated to be worth £6.1 million or around $10 million by various sources.
I suppose it's realistic as she would have got quite a bit of money from Hallelujah and Overcome, her debut album which sold around 1 million units worldwide. She also signed various deals over the years including a $3.5 million recording contract with Epic US which she would have received an advance from and her £1 million recording contract with Syco which again she would have received some cash from. She also signed a six figure contract with Dolce & Gabbana to promote their designs and has invested in property over the years. Considering she only had one very successful era, she has done very well for herself and has earned more for herself with one album than the individual members of JLS made after 5 albums. It's currently unclear whether she has signed a new US recording contract, but as Ozzy said, last year she was recording in America with top producers who have worked with Drake, Jay Z, Mariah, Usher, Ciara etc. and was jetting back and forth to these sessions in First Class, so she's getting the money from somewhere. She also announced a new management deal with KWL, founded by the man who discovered and promoted Jay Z, Kanye West, Estelle and Trey Songz in the US. All of that would have cost over $1 million to fund, and I doubt she has that much disposable income so the logical conclusion is that she has signed a new deal to be announced at some point in the future.
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I'm not sure why particularly Alexandra Burke, but recently she has been estimated to be worth £6.1 million or around $10 million by various sources.
I suppose it's realistic as she would have got quite a bit of money from Hallelujah and Overcome, her debut album which sold around 1 million units worldwide. She also signed various deals over the years including a $3.5 million recording contract with Epic US which she would have received an advance from and her £1 million recording contract with Syco which again she would have received some cash from. She also signed a six figure contract with Dolce & Gabbana to promote their designs and has invested in property over the years. Considering she only had one very successful era, she has done very well for herself and has earned more for herself with one album than the individual members of JLS made after 5 albums. It's currently unclear whether she has signed a new US recording contract, but as Ozzy said, last year she was recording in America with top producers who have worked with Drake, Jay Z, Mariah, Usher, Ciara etc. and was jetting back and forth to these sessions in First Class, so she's getting the money from somewhere. She also announced a new management deal with KWL, founded by the man who discovered and promoted Jay Z, Kanye West, Estelle and Trey Songz in the US. All of that would have cost over $1 million to fund, and I doubt she has that much disposable income so the logical conclusion is that she has signed a new deal to be announced at some point in the future. ![]() Airplay is another massive earner but again the copyright owner of the song receives that The contracts you quoted arent actual money earners. Out of that she had to pay all costs of recording, band members, and marketing etc, an absolute fortune |
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She wouldn't have earned much. Her first album was suuccessful, but only in the UK really. She was signed to Syco at the the time and we all know what they're like...they would have taken the majority of the profits. She has had pretty much no writing credits so she wouldn't really have earned much money in royalties either. If she was smart, she's probably invested any money she did make in property (which I think she actually has done) and that will have given her quite a big income from rental etc. She's also had a few different contracts for things such as makeup, watches. However, the biggest mystery is how she is able to afford to jet off here, there and everywhere in business class all the time and spend loads of time in recording studios all the time...all of this costs big money, especially time in recording studios and no way could she have made enough money through property and a few contracts to afford to do all that. Someone (most likely her U.S record label or management) arer funding all of this, however now that she is going to be playing Whitney Houston, I'm guessing we're going to have to wait until the end of the year before we know the details of who her U.S label/management actually are.
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She would have received an advance on her contract which covers this, she has to pay for recording, travel etc herself
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"Considering she only had one very successful era, she has done very well for herself and has earned more for herself with one album than the individual members of JLS made after 5 albums. "
That's absolute nonsense. JLS have earned far more, not only have they sold more records (more albums) but sold out countless arena shows. Talk about being delusional. Alexandra Burke never appeared on any legitimate "Rich lists". I doubt she has made much money. She only had one fairly successful album and hasn't toured much (only theaters which she failed to sell out). Facts not fiction. |
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It's hard to say, particularly with pop music (artists in other genres seem to manage to be richer with less commercial success). You hear of these big pop stars from the past who had #1s, but now have no money, yet I know people that are making a lot of money from music even though they've never made the top 200 before.
Not sure how much Alexandra would get. She had a lot of success, so she can probably be quite well off if she was wise with her money. I don't think she has writing credits on her songs (at least her biggest hits) so she might not make very much from royalties. I imagine her main royalties would be from radio airplay, since she did have some really big airplay hits. All Night Long got #1 on the airplay chart, and she managed to get airplay on a wide range of stations, ranging from Radio 1Xtra (urban) to The Silence on Radio 2 (adult contemporary) and Heart FM (adult pop) with Bad Boys, All Night Long and Start Without You (which was quite impressive back in 2009/2010 when electropop wasn't very common on Heart. You never know what can happen in the music industry though. If she's lucky enough to have her song used in a hit movie or as the theme tune for a TV show, she'll make bucketloads. On the other hand, she could end up with no money in the future. It's difficult to say what will happen. |
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I know Duffy was worth 6M and that was with one hugely successful era. So it isn't so inconceivable Alexandra is worth around 3M I know it is a lot to most but for a popstar that is pittance.
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It's hard to say, particularly with pop music (artists in other genres seem to manage to be richer with less commercial success). You hear of these big pop stars from the past who had #1s, but now have no money, yet I know people that are making a lot of money from music even though they've never made the top 200 before.
Not sure how much Alexandra would get. She had a lot of success, so she can probably be quite well off if she was wise with her money. I don't think she has writing credits on her songs (at least her biggest hits) so she might not make very much from royalties. I imagine her main royalties would be from radio airplay, since she did have some really big airplay hits. All Night Long got #1 on the airplay chart, and she managed to get airplay on a wide range of stations, ranging from Radio 1Xtra (urban) to The Silence on Radio 2 (adult contemporary) and Heart FM (adult pop) with Bad Boys, All Night Long and Start Without You (which was quite impressive back in 2009/2010 when electropop wasn't very common on Heart. You never know what can happen in the music industry though. If she's lucky enough to have her song used in a hit movie or as the theme tune for a TV show, she'll make bucketloads. On the other hand, she could end up with no money in the future. It's difficult to say what will happen. http://lawyer4musicians.com/2010/04/...get-royalties/ From that item Think of Aretha Franklin singing RESPECT. Everyone in the world has probably heard that song, but every time it is played the royalties for public performance go to the writer (specifically his estate) Otis Redding. |
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I know Duffy was worth 6M and that was with one hugely successful era. So it isn't so inconceivable Alexandra is worth around 3M I know it is a lot to most but for a popstar that is pittance.
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It really depends. Yes there are many stories of pop acts making hardly any money or ending up broke even after years at the top of the charts.
This is a great video of TLC's Late Lisa Lopes putting it rather simply how the record business works and how you can sell 10 million albums and end up broke. Link It really depends on the deal. A good example is 90s boybands East 17 and Take That. It's well documented that the all bar Tony Mortimer (the band's primary song writer) East 17 earned peanuts whereas Take That Gary Barlow earned the most but the others did leave the band with a few million in the bank. Then there's oddities like S Club 7 which actually got a weekly wage. One thing to keep in mind is that all Alexandra will have to pay with working with these top producers is studio costs unless they properly record and release that material. |
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This is a great video of TLC's Late Lisa Lopes putting it rather simply how the record business works and how you can sell 10 million albums and end up broke. Link It tells a story which has been frequently told down the decades. I imagine that there may be many people who are not quite aware of what the realities are though. Especially those who are busily consuming the product and more focused into being a fan of somebody. It sounds like Lisa Lopes wasn't stupid and comes across as quite intelligent. But it still sounds like she got a bad deal. I guess that many people see somebody on television, in music videos, and being all over the media giving interviews and whatnot, and are easily led into assuming that they must be incredibly rich and famous. They must be if they're on the telly and in the media all the time, right? I can imagine the illusion being especially strong when some new pop star comes along and 'takes the world by storm' and is an overnight mega-success story. The thing is it's heavily dependent on what deal they have and/or whether they are a songwriter or not. Somebody who is suddenly famous due to enjoying a massive machine of publicity driving them forward is only really just starting. That hype costs money. More commonly than not they will be obliged to pay for it all themselves in the future. Hotels, film premieres, clothes, that white powdery stuff that appears to be all the rage, so much stuff that you may think they're enjoying because it's assumed that they can afford to pay for it all. But frequently it's paid for with borrowed money given to them by their record company that they have to pay back in the future. Plenty of music acts will be living on the tick, so to speak. They may even have to maintain high sales for a very long time before they earn enough money to be able to start earning any significant profit. It could take years. It's also a problem because they pretty much have no choice to do what they want. They have to work for the same company under contract, and are effectively tied to them doing what they are told to do. If they decide to just leave their contract and go elsewhere, they can't. If they do then legally they may be left owing their record company a hell of a lot of money, no means to be signed by somebody else, and have to declare themselves bankrupt with all their dreams up in smoke. Like I say, it depends on what deal they have and what they have signed on the dotted line in return for their apparent success. If at one point they don't achieve the required sales it can be a massive problem for them. There is another good post here on DS from a few years ago where the poster links to an online article which breaks down the costs involved and what the typical percentage cuts are. Some may be shocked. It illustrates very clearly how somebody in the music business as a face in the media can have the appearance of all the trappings of fame, but the reality isn't quite how it appears to the public. |
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I would guess about £2million (with about £800,00 in cash).
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£10.99...or maybe less
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It really depends. Yes there are many stories of pop acts making hardly any money or ending up broke even after years at the top of the charts.
This is a great video of TLC's Late Lisa Lopes putting it rather simply how the record business works and how you can sell 10 million albums and end up broke. Link It really depends on the deal. A good example is 90s boybands East 17 and Take That. It's well documented that the all bar Tony Mortimer (the band's primary song writer) East 17 earned peanuts whereas Take That Gary Barlow earned the most but the others did leave the band with a few million in the bank. Then there's oddities like S Club 7 which actually got a weekly wage. One thing to keep in mind is that all Alexandra will have to pay with working with these top producers is studio costs unless they properly record and release that material. |
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It all depends on the deal she has.
In some cases the label will pay for the studio time and session musicians for the album, they'll also pay for the promotion, release, duplication etc. However, they'll also have all the control over the recording, saying which songs go on the album, the order, the release date, etc. Burke would then be paid performance royalties via the PPL/PRS, and possibly receive a payment from the MCPS for radio play Or, she may get an advance for the label and have to pay for all of the above herself, but would have more of a say about songs etc Either way, by the time everyone has received their cut, she won't have much from the royalties. Performer royalties are something like 0.002p per play if I remember correctly. I'm a member of PPL, PRS and MCPS (PRS and MCPS merged so when you sign to one, you sign to the other automatically) but I get far more royalties as a right holder and composer than I do as a performer |
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No one can have any idea how much an artist is worth - often the artists themselves have no clue which is why many go bankrupt! - as there are so many variables. Given she's neither a songwriter nor appears to have negotiated herself songwriting credits, if she has done well she will likely have earned a decent amount through product endorsements and/or other 'extra-curricular' activities...
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