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Old 19-05-2014, 08:53
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I was thinking - soaps....

are they a way of keeping the viewers mindsets low - in terms of

Menial Jobs
Not furthering your education

99% of soap characters have menial jobs, and no further education (or desire to do so)

So this is reflected on the viewers who see this as acceptable
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Old 19-05-2014, 09:10
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Great thread and one where logic and intelligence is required to discuss such matters of the heart.

Had a discussion only yesterday how society is easily influenced by what governments and TV shows relay to the masses.

Secretly and even without knowing every single person is targeted to be brain washed in different ways to accept that this is how it is and it's acceptable.

People scoff at that theory of opinion but it's very true and most people don't even get it because instead of thinking of there own accord they follow suit set by others.

Soaps are a propaganda where people actually use these shows as a benchmark on how they want to lead their life's. Some even think that the soap characters are real characters when in fact they are not.

Society is easily influenced by powerful signals created by powerful people in control of your destiny and most are to ignorant to realise this or just too stupid to care.

Do not expect much comments with regards to this discussion on here because it's a taboo subject which covers great train of thought of understanding and this is a soap forum after all!
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Old 19-05-2014, 09:28
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this is why they are called TV "Programmes" as they programme your mind
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Old 19-05-2014, 09:31
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dear god... back away from the keyboard... turn off your TV and computers and get out in the sun... a good dose of vitamin D will soon sort the pair of you out.
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Old 19-05-2014, 09:35
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It's all true.

Also, if you play Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon' album backwards, it warns you about this.
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Old 19-05-2014, 09:36
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Hmm... Usually the tinfoil hat threads are in General. Kudos for branching out.
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Old 19-05-2014, 09:46
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You lot may mock, but I for one would never have got where I am today - Chief Knicker Stitcher at Cruella's Crotch Couture - if I hadn't been inspired by years of Corrie watching.
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Old 19-05-2014, 09:55
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You lot may mock, but I for one would never have got where I am today - Chief Knicker Stitcher at Cruella's Crotch Couture - if I hadn't been inspired by years of Corrie watching.
As for me, I've not been affected in any way whatsoever by my years of watching Corrie. Not a jot.

Oldnjaded, do something!
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Old 19-05-2014, 09:59
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Eh? It's simple light television with no ulterior motive, and totally grounded in fiction. It's funny you should mention it though, I had this same conversation with that Shirley Carter bloke who moved into the gutter outside my house.
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:01
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it's called The Sabido method

Mexican television writer Miguel Sabido began studying the Simplemente Maria phenomenon. He had written several popular soaps for a major Mexican broadcaster but was frustrated with the vacuous content. He drew up a methodology that writers could use to create drama series that would be both popular and educational.

In 1975, half of Mexico's workforce was illiterate and though the government had initiated a public adult literacy programme, it had a low take up. Sabido created a series called Ven Conmigo, in which an elderly man graduated from literacy class and in an emotional scene read a letter from his daughter for the first time.

An epilogue to the episode mentioned the national distribution centre that provided free literacy booklets - 250,000 people showed up the next day to get their copies, and enrolment in the government programme increased nine-fold over the course of a year.
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:01
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In EastEnders, Libby went to Oxford University. Abi went to Costa Rica at one point but she most definitely went to university and wants to be a vet. JP was a perfectly good English teacher before Finn lost him his job. Patrick Blake is good at his job as headmaster despite being a girlfriend beater outside of work. Even Robbie Roscoe is studying for A levels. Both JP and Patrick would have needed university degrees to teach (I am assuming Patrick was a teacher before he became headmaster). Then we have the medical doctors; May Wright, Yusef Khan, Anthony Trueman, Dr Browning. None of them settled for menial jobs.

In the world around us there are many people in the so called menial jobs of waiter/waitress, working in a café/garage etc but someone has to do those jobs so that the world can move forward. Okay there may be more people in menial jobs than in more educated jobs but that's where the drama element of a soap comes in. Even in the real world, there is a limit as to what you can do in a small village/square. My local square has 2 supermarkets., 2 funeral parlours, one beauty parlour, a dental practise, a doctor's surgery, a post office, a newsagents and two charity shops. If nobody ventured outside of it for the more educated jobs we would all be living a soapy life.
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:05
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00qpj8q

Very interesting....

Researchers in Rwanda have found that radio soap operas there, are helping defuse the country's dangerous ethnic tensions.

Turkish soap operas have set off a public debate about women's roles in the Middle East.

A team of economists credits Brazilian TV "novelas" for helping to dramatically lower a fertility rate that in the 60's was above six births per woman.

In India, where the world's most popular soap operas are watched by at least one third of the country's one billion inhabitants, the programmes have a major impact on Indian society, with regard to national integration, identity, globalisation, women and ethics.

Recently they have highlighted the country's economic liberalisation in the context of globalisation and explained the impact of India's booming economy on local communities.

Villages where people consume more TV and radio give more responsibilities and rights to women and girls, with wives having more autonomy and more of a role in household financial matters.

Their daughters are also more likely to be enrolled in school.

From learning how to cope with the personal financial impact of the global economic crisis to dealing with the emotional impact of losing your job, storylines in soap operas around the world are helping millions of viewers and listeners approach their lives with a more positive attitude – thanks to the lives of their favourite fictional characters.
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:13
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You lot may mock, but I for one would never have got where I am today - Chief Knicker Stitcher at Cruella's Crotch Sniffer - if I hadn't been inspired by years of Corrie watching.
Ah.... you and James Barton cut from the same [panty] cloth

don't worry AP... Dr Who will be back soon and then you can have a ... er... "sensible" conversation
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:21
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Ah.... you and James Barton cut from the same [panty] cloth

don't worry AP... Dr Who will be back soon and then you can have a ... er... "sensible" conversation
lol, too long - its august bank holiday!
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:51
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Great thread and one where logic and intelligence is required to discuss such matters of the heart.

Had a discussion only yesterday how society is easily influenced by what governments and TV shows relay to the masses.

Secretly and even without knowing every single person is targeted to be brain washed in different ways to accept that this is how it is and it's acceptable.

People scoff at that theory of opinion but it's very true and most people don't even get it because instead of thinking of there own accord they follow suit set by others.

Soaps are a propaganda where people actually use these shows as a benchmark on how they want to lead their life's. Some even think that the soap characters are real characters when in fact they are not.

Society is easily influenced by powerful signals created by powerful people in control of your destiny and most are to ignorant to realise this or just too stupid to care.

Do not expect much comments with regards to this discussion on here because it's a taboo subject which covers great train of thought of understanding and this is a soap forum after all!
What fresh DS Hell is this...?
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Old 19-05-2014, 10:54
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Ah.... you and James Barton cut from the same [panty] cloth

don't worry AP... Dr Who will be back soon and then you can have a ... er... "sensible" conversation
You changed it!! I would never be so coarse!
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Old 19-05-2014, 11:04
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As for me, I've not been affected in any way whatsoever by my years of watching Corrie. Not a jot.

Oldnjaded, do something!
Shut up and eat your stuffed marrow.
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Old 19-05-2014, 11:10
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You changed it!! I would never be so coarse!
you never want a coarse gusset

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Old 19-05-2014, 11:13
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Whaaa... Oh dear...
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Old 19-05-2014, 11:27
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Good thing I hardly watch the sh*t then!

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Old 19-05-2014, 11:45
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Give the masses Soaps, beer, bingo and burgers , then they're under control .

The government is your friend and will freeze fuel duty as a bonus .

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Old 19-05-2014, 11:51
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I've always suspected Mo is a Government spy, his 'Soap Issues' is cleverly designed to gage the responses of the unsuspecting masses.

Geraldine is in on it too I fear, I'm sure he slipped up once and called her Agent Geraldine.
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Old 19-05-2014, 11:56
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No! Your looking too much into things.
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Old 19-05-2014, 21:27
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I was going to foment the masses to agitate for a totalitarian government tonight but I tuned into EE to watch some Phil n Shirl tongue action instead.
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Old 19-05-2014, 21:45
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I'm actually moving to London next month.

If I didn't know better, EE would have taught me that I can just turn up, find a distant relative/ my secret birth mother, borrow some money off a stranger, get myself a flat, and the next day walk straight into a job.

I can't bloody wait
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