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Old 23-05-2014, 17:58
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What a load of old cobblers that man speaks
Who shagged Lucy: REPEAT
Who killed Lucy: REPEAT
Shirley beings Mick's mother: REPEAT
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:00
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Be fair - I don't think anyone would call 'who shagged Kat?' an EastEnders Greatest Hit!
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:04
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He shouldn't have made such big statements if he wasn't going to stick by it. I'm disappointed with the Shirley/Mick twist, the bath incident was enough there was no need for this twist. What's going to happen to Dean now, is going to be sidelined for St Mick I like Mick but I would have preferred to see Dean/Shirley's relationship as we know about the history between them.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:07
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Yeah, I was more interested in her trying to drown her brother.

Him now being her son is more crap to try and sympathise Shirley's crap skills as a mother. I'm well and truly bored of her parent issues.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:10
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I like Mick but I would have preferred to see Dean/Shirley's relationship see we know about the history between them.
I'm not so sure about that anymore. The simple move of changing the timeframe in which she abandoned her children has completely changed that story to me.

And not in a good way.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:13
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I'm not so sure about that anymore. The simple move of changing the timeframe in which she abandoned her children has completely changed that story to me.

And not in a good way.
But it's looking probable now that the 14 years thing was actually a reference to the last time she fell out with Mick and Linda before they moved to Walford. Dean himself has still made references to her walking out when he was a small child.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:20
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How can he possibly not repeat greatest hits? What hasn't been done in a soap? Pretty much nothing. From the main storylines in Eastenders at the moment, they're all repeats: Cancer storyline, murder mystery and the Mother/Child plot. The same goes with the other soaps. As long as they're done differently, it's fine.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:20
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Unlike the Zoe Kat reveal this should be handled better for one when it all does come out micks old enough and ugly enough to handle it a lot better than how Zoe handled it. After a few weeks the reveal hoping everyone just goes back to carrying on as normal. I really don't see after this comes out how it's gona change anything. The only person it's gona effect is dean who will whine kick off because he still hasn't grown up yet.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:23
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How can he possibly not repeat greatest hits? What hasn't been done in a soap? Pretty much nothing. From the main storylines in Eastenders at the moment, they're all repeats: Cancer storyline, murder mystery and the Mick/Shirley plot. The same goes with the other soaps. As long as they're done differently, it's fine.
Maybe because he said he wouldn't. The twist was unnecessary imo, Shirley worked better as his sister.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:30
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Maybe because he said he wouldn't. The twist was unnecessary imo, Shirley worked better as his sister.
In the grand scheme of things and considering all there ages and such a mature character like mick is when it does come out what exactly will change who's this gona effect why can't Shirley and mick just carry on like there brother and sister?
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:32
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In the grand scheme of things and considering all there ages and such a mature character like mick is when it does come out what exactly will change who's this gona effect why can't Shirley and mick just carry on like there brother and sister?
What would be the point of the sl if nothing happens they might as well kept them as brother and sister.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:33
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I guess this one rankles a bit because Kat/Zoe felt so much more than an average soap plot and was one of the best, most iconic EE stories of all time. It took on a life of its own way beyond Kathy/Donna and is probably the definitive EE story of the noughties.

Murder and cancer are run of the mill now so retreads dont jar so much as this one. Of course 6 months down the line we may all be exulting it's praises!

Mr TC has made himself a hostage to fortune somewhat with the greatest hits statement but I guess the poor bugger didn't expect a load of forum members to remember it 6 months later!
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:41
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Maybe because he said he wouldn't. The twist was unnecessary imo, Shirley worked better as his sister.
How can you possibly know that? He doesn't even know she is his mother yet and it has been revealed to us all of a day. I think you are judging the storyline prematurely.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:44
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To be fair to the guy what hasn't been done in a TV soap before that he could do now? At least he's made EE watchable again
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:51
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I keep saying this but almost every story has been done in a soap at one time or another so storylines will repeat, It's not about the foundation of the story though, its about the characterization and the characters which make the stories different.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:56
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How can he possibly not repeat greatest hits? What hasn't been done in a soap? Pretty much nothing. From the main storylines in Eastenders at the moment, they're all repeats: Cancer storyline, murder mystery and the Mother/Child plot. The same goes with the other soaps. As long as they're done differently, it's fine.
The biggest difference between doing another murder story, another pregnancy story, another affair, marriage, deadly illness or whatever is that a woman revealing her younger sister is her child is one of the biggest Eastenders stories and most famous ones they've ever done.

Just like a lot of characters and catchphrases in the show's early days, "You aint my muvva" now sits alongside them as definitive of the show.

So repeating that is really not a good sign.

Murder, pregnancy and many other devices are part of other stories so can be played differently. Whereas sibling being someone's parent was the story in and of itself.

It would be like bringing Grant back and he, Phil and Sharon repeat Sharongate from the 90s.
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Old 23-05-2014, 18:59
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Personally I don't mind. I agree that most things have already been covered in soaps. I do think DTC shouldn't have said it though as he's opened himself up to criticism.
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Old 23-05-2014, 19:05
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The biggest difference between doing another murder story, another pregnancy story, another affair, marriage, deadly illness or whatever is that a woman revealing her younger sister is her child is one of the biggest Eastenders stories and most famous ones they've ever done.

Just like a lot of characters and catchphrases in the show's early days, "You aint my muvva" now sits alongside them as definitive of the show.

So repeating that is really not a good sign.

Murder, pregnancy and many other devices are part of other stories so can be played differently. Whereas sibling being someone's parent was the story in and of itself.

It would be like bringing Grant back and he, Phil and Sharon repeat Sharongate from the 90s.
It may be a similar basis but this is just the beginning, I think it will play out completely different to Kat/Zoe. There is a stark contrast in how Kat/Zoe grew up as to how Shirley/Mick did. Stan and Charlie are complete opposites also and the Carter back story is much more involved. Rather that it just being a my sister is my mum storyline, this one has a lot more to explore in their past.
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Old 23-05-2014, 19:08
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What a load of old cobblers that man speaks
Who shagged Lucy: REPEAT
Who killed Lucy: REPEAT
Shirley beings Mick's mother: REPEAT
To be fair, who shagged Lucy isnt a repeat of anything, who killed Lucy wasn't either!

I don't really care if they rehash things, as long as what I see is good, it doesnt matter to me!
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Old 23-05-2014, 19:14
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It may be a similar basis but this is just the beginning, I think it will play out completely different to Kat/Zoe. There is a stark contrast in how Kat/Zoe grew up as to how Shirley/Mick did. Stan and Charlie are complete opposites also and the Carter back story is much more involved. Rather that it just being a my sister is my mum storyline, this one has a lot more to explore in their past.
True.
But then the Carter past was much intriguing to me before they went down this route. It's actually brought my interest in it down because they're being so lazy and predictable.
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Old 23-05-2014, 19:17
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To be fair, who shagged Lucy isnt a repeat of anything, who killed Lucy wasn't either!

I don't really care if they rehash things, as long as what I see is good, it doesnt matter to me!
BIB: Agreed, I don't see the issue as long as there is some damn good drama playing on screen.
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Old 23-05-2014, 19:18
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True.
But then the Carter past was much intriguing to me before they went down this route. It's actually brought my interest in it down because they're being so lazy and predictable.
Fair enough, you never know though, it may surprise you.
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Old 23-05-2014, 19:18
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The relationship between Shirley and Mick will never be as poignant as the relationship Kat and Zoe shared. That is why this storyline will not reach the heights of "You aint my Muvva".

Kat and Zoe were like two peas in a pod you could say. They were not just mother and daughter, but best friends also. Granted they had plenty of scraps over the years, but ultimately Kat wanted the very best for her daughter.

Shirley on the other hand is not nowhere near as complex or multi-layered as Kat was in her original stint. Her love for Mick is base on selfish reasons i.e. he owns the keys to the Vic and keeps a roof over her head. Can you imagine Kat disappearing from Zoe's life for years without a trace?

So in summary what made the Kat/Zoe storyline so special because of the bond they shared as mother and daughter. I'm really not sure what route they are going to take with this Shirley/Mick storyline.
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Old 23-05-2014, 19:19
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It may be a similar basis but this is just the beginning, I think it will play out completely different to Kat/Zoe. There is a stark contrast in how Kat/Zoe grew up as to how Shirley/Mick did. Stan and Charlie are complete opposites also and the Carter back story is much more involved. Rather that it just being a my sister is my mum storyline, this one has a lot more to explore in their past.
Oh it deffo will, it's just the nucleus of the story is pretty darn similar. But I will reserve judgement til it plays out.
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Old 23-05-2014, 19:24
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Fair enough, you never know though, it may surprise you.
Hopefully. Fingers crossed. If they do go down the route a lot of posters seem to think they are; of Stan abusing Shirley and spawning Mick then my hope goes out the window considering Zoe was born through Kat being raped by a family member.
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