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Old 23-05-2014, 21:59
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I was having this twitter convo with someone who said that a actor show leave because he deserves better then what the show is giving him (it's was Max as it goes), I didn't agree but it did make think, do you think that once a character comes to the point of going round in circles with storylines, it's it time they moved on or can certain characters be revived?
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:02
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Jake Wood is a good actor and it's a shame what his character has become, I think ultimately the blame lies with the writers who can't think of anything else. When it comes to that, they should see the character is either getting stale and axe them or think of something new. Max is overused so much, ever since he started he has been involved in most of the big EE sls, most of them involved sex. The writers need to stop looking at previous sls for inspiration they need something new and original.
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:06
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Ideally the writers would buck up and give the actor better material.

If it were I it would depend. If I was incredibly talented and thought I could go far I would move on but if I were only fair to middling, and getting paid well enough I'd stay put. I'd try to keep the writers sweet to better my chances of getting a good SL out of them. Like maybe bake a nice lemon drizzle cake for Friday elevenses. Or I could bring out the big guns and do my Ultimate Chocolate Cake. It really is the business.
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:18
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It's the writers fault at the end of the day.
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:19
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In an ideal world, the writer's wouldn't allow the character to be repetitive, they'd write better or make the decision to axe the character anyway.

But it's tough for an actor. I'm sure Jake Wood knows which side his bread's buttered and would rather play Max as repetitive as he has, with the regular work and wage rather than leave and take the chance at long periods of unemployment.

Even for the best actors, finding work is tough.
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:35
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Would you give up a stable, well paid job because your character is going in circles by bedding attractive women? Yeah, didn't think so.

Jake Wood is a good actor but that alone won't give him a stable income like Eastenders does. Besides, there are probably other qualities to the job he likes other than the acting.

The case is probably different with other actors but I wouldn't feel obliged to leave just because my character isn't evolving, it's the writers fault, not the actors. If I knew there was a good chance of other work then I would but again, sort of varies from person to person.
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:41
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No!

The actors do their best with the material they're given, if the scripts are repetitive the characters will just end up going round and round in circles and that's when they get boring and repetitive.

Max is a good character but all he gets is shagging storylines, scriptwriters should give him something else to do!
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:52
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If they did, then no actors/actresses would be left in any soap. Some characters need to have repetitive storylines sometimes...if they didn't then soaps would have run out of ideas years ago.
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:55
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If they did, then no actors/actresses would be left in any soap. Some characters need to have repetitive storylines sometimes...if they didn't then soaps would have run out of ideas years ago.
I think OP means more that the characters themselves getting repetitive rather than stories being recycled.

Max getting together with Tanya would be the exact same thing we have seen 2 or 3 times already for example.
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Old 23-05-2014, 22:58
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It depends if they can afford to leave / take the risk.

Max for example, is Jake Wood in demand enough to leave? I suspect he's not arsed playing the same story over and over n
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Old 24-05-2014, 00:10
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It seems a lot of the best actors and actresses and the biggest characters get saddled with the repetitiveness.
Not just Max another example for me is Ste from hollyoaks , he is still a popular character but he goes off the rails , gets back to normal , goes off the rails and so on. Though Kieron can act it is so boring now. Also Mercedes from hollyoaks - all she does is cheat on her husbands and sleep around.
Lots more examples across the soaps.

But it is indeed the writers fault , the actors are just saddled with the same stuff. Soaps have run out of ideas. Cheating/reveals/murders/weddings and births. Odds are stuff will just be repeated. It is a shame because some actors talents are just being wasted but they seem to content to leave and go onto to other things.
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Old 24-05-2014, 00:31
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I think it depends if the storyline leads to anything, I'm surprised that Jake Wood likes playing as Max with all his affairs if I'm honest
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Old 24-05-2014, 10:41
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No!

The actors do their best with the material they're given, if the scripts are repetitive the characters will just end up going round and round in circles and that's when they get boring and repetitive.

Max is a good character but all he gets is shagging storylines, scriptwriters should give him something else to do!
I agree
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Old 24-05-2014, 10:50
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It's the writers fault at the end of the day.
True. Though if you can tell off the screen that the actor is bored. Perhaps they should go.
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Old 24-05-2014, 10:53
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They should be given a break until the writers can come up with something decent. In the meanwhile the actors can do something else.
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Old 24-05-2014, 11:04
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The writers should go first, If a writer can't write a non repetitive storyline for a character then they are not a good writer surely
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Old 24-05-2014, 11:07
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What an arrogant question - should you leave your job if you become "boring"?


It's down to the production team to keep the characters interesting and stop the viewers becoming "bored".
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Old 24-05-2014, 12:06
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What an arrogant question - should you leave your job if you become "boring"?


It's down to the production team to keep the characters interesting and stop the viewers becoming "bored".
I didn't agree with the person I had the conversation with cause no one is going to make themselves unemployed voluntarily unless they've had enough themselves, which I don't think Jake Wood is and as I said to the person, Max is a prominent character on the square and JW is a decent actor, it's the writing that needs working on, I think at one time or another long time characters have gone through a faze of repetitiveness storytelling.

I don't think there was any malice in the question, she genuinely likes the actor but could of worded it better although she got told off by a few on there when she tweeted him directly though but he understood what she meant.
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Old 24-05-2014, 12:10
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Inevitably all long term characters get repetitive. How could they not. The challenge is to the writing and production team to keep it interesting. Of course then we complain that the characters are acting out of character!
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Old 24-05-2014, 12:23
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Inevitably all long term characters get repetitive. How could they not. The challenge is to the writing and production team to keep it interesting. Of course then we complain that the characters are acting out of character!
Exactly. IRL people make the same mistakes over and over again. This isn't a country where people go into therapy at an early age and come out as a brand new, more enlightened person.

Thus we have:

Ian and his need for status.
Phil and his need for power.
Whitney always looking for love.
Linda's preoccupation with image.
Shirley's self-loathing.

etc etc.
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Old 24-05-2014, 12:43
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No not really.

If characters do the same thing again and again it's hardly unrealistic as on real life a leopard never changes it's spots.
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Old 24-05-2014, 13:35
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What an arrogant question - should you leave your job if you become "boring"?


It's down to the production team to keep the characters interesting and stop the viewers becoming "bored".
I agree.
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Old 24-05-2014, 13:42
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What an arrogant question - should you leave your job if you become "boring"?


It's down to the production team to keep the characters interesting and stop the viewers becoming "bored".
I'd have been sacked years ago!
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Old 24-05-2014, 13:43
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Exactly. IRL people make the same mistakes over and over again. This isn't a country where people go into therapy at an early age and come out as a brand new, more enlightened person.

Thus we have:

Ian and his need for status.
Phil and his need for power.
Whitney always looking for love.
Linda's preoccupation with image.
Shirley's self-loathing.

etc etc.
Yes.
The challenge is to keep those traits interesting.
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