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Old 24-05-2014, 13:32
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So, funeral car had six seats. At the start of the day, it would have been

Ian
Peter
Denise
Patrick
Bobby
Christian

Then Libby turns up unannounced, without Denise having warned Ian, and she suddenly expects Ian to turf out one of his family for Libby, who has been disrespectful towards Ian (not in earshot of Ian mind) lately.

Granted it was complicated further by Cindy Jr coming along but Ian had no idea that would happen.
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Old 24-05-2014, 13:34
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I guess the argument could have been that Christian isn't 'family' - even though he was closer to Lucy than Libby ever was.
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Old 24-05-2014, 14:02
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Did he know Bobby & Christian were coming as I can't remember? If he did know wouldn't he have expected Jane to be with them as well which would have meant another extra seat would have been taken up if she had turned up from the start.
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Old 24-05-2014, 14:18
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Then she tried to split up with him on the day of Lucy's funeral! What a weird direction to take the character in. Made her seem very obnoxious.
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Old 24-05-2014, 14:25
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I thought the one really atrocious thing she did was not actually attend the funeral but as Ian used it as a pulling tool with Jane and then when that failed as emotional blackmail with Denise to get her to stay despite not loving her then not attending doesn't actually seem that bad
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Old 24-05-2014, 14:30
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No, I didn't find Denise's actions shocking. She has stood by Ian whilst he has treated her like the hired help and only turned away from the funeral service when she saw Ian chasing after Jane. Good on her.

Ian's behaviour, on the other hand, was both shocking and distasteful.
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:02
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What I cannot get is why they needed a taxi, so many other residents in the square were already going so they could have jumped in with them.
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:04
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I don't think Ian or Denise handled themselves with grace during and after the funeral.
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:15
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No, I didn't find Denise's actions shocking. She has stood by Ian whilst he has treated her like the hired help and only turned away from the funeral service when she saw Ian chasing after Jane. Good on her.

Ian's behaviour, on the other hand, was both shocking and distasteful.
Didn't she see Jane chasing Ian outside as they pulled up? Bit ridiculous as he was bound to be devastated and she wasn't there to comfort him, so Jane stepped in.
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:23
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No, I didn't find Denise's actions shocking. She has stood by Ian whilst he has treated her like the hired help and only turned away from the funeral service when she saw Ian chasing after Jane. Good on her.

Ian's behaviour, on the other hand, was both shocking and distasteful.
Exactly...and Denise is his partner so should have been able to bring her daughter....Christian is nothing to do with Lucy ...
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:27
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I thought the one really atrocious thing she did was not actually attend the funeral but as Ian used it as a pulling tool with Jane and then when that failed as emotional blackmail with Denise to get her to stay despite not loving her then not attending doesn't actually seem that bad
Basically Denise should've attended the funeral in some way, shape or form - even though Jane was closer to Lucy, Peter and Bobby than she would ever have been but then she should have left Ian to his own devices forever thereafter, like she was set to do a few weeks back after confiding in Patrick anyway.

I found the whole funeral scenario concerning she and Ian odd, strangely written and have found them being coupled together from day one as very peculiar anyway, to be honest - it would almost be like pairing somebody like Ronnie with Alfie or Phil with Jane for example - total opposites who would never work together as couples!
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:28
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Did he know Bobby & Christian were coming as I can't remember? If he did know wouldn't he have expected Jane to be with them as well which would have meant another extra seat would have been taken up if she had turned up from the start.
When Ian went to see Jane, Christian told him they'd be there.
What I cannot get is why they needed a taxi, so many other residents in the square were already going so they could have jumped in with them.
I didn't get the taxi thing either. Patrick must've known in advance that he needed to get a taxi there - so why hadn't he already booked it?!
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:31
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The whole car thing was silly, they would have known the car seated six people, so would have made arrangements for others to find their own way to get there.
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:34
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I wonder if the letter Poppy sent about Denise and Fatboy will ever be found in Lucy's things now? Maybe Lucy kept it somewhere so she could show Ian if needed.
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:35
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She was going to leave him the day Lucy was found and Ltbby knows that...come the openning of the restaurant out of all of them he asks Denise to clean the bogs.
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:40
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So, funeral car had six seats. At the start of the day, it would have been

Ian
Peter
Denise
Patrick
Bobby
Christian

Then Libby turns up unannounced, without Denise having warned Ian, and she suddenly expects Ian to turf out one of his family for Libby, who has been disrespectful towards Ian (not in earshot of Ian mind) lately.

Granted it was complicated further by Cindy Jr coming along but Ian had no idea that would happen.
Couldnt agree more I thought Denise's behavior was appalling. Ian wanted Christian in the car as the kids consider him their uncle particularity Bobby Patrick offered to get a taxi he wasnt bothered yet Denise and Libby made an issue out of it as if Ian was being unreasonable. He was burying his daughter he was bound to not be thinking straight and for them to not even attend the funeral was very disrespectful. Denise being jealous of Jane comforting Ian was ridiculous he was in bits and if she had bothered to show up she would have been the one comforting him not his ex-wife.
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:48
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Couldnt agree more I thought Denise's behavior was appalling. Ian wanted Christian in the car as the kids consider him their uncle particularity Bobby Patrick offered to get a taxi he wasnt bothered yet Denise and Libby made an issue out of it as if Ian was being unreasonable. He was burying his daughter he was bound to not be thinking straight and for them to not even attend the funeral was very disrespectful. Denise being jealous of Jane comforting Ian was ridiculous he was in bits and if she had bothered to show up she would have been the one comforting him not his ex-wife.
Completely agree with this. Ian would have been thinking about his family, not Denise's. They should have been more respectful to his wishes/needs as it would have been the most difficult day he would have ever had to experience. What did Denise expect, for everyone to let Ian crumble to pieces on his own until she got there?
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Old 24-05-2014, 15:50
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I like Denise but I think despite what's going on with Ian she still should've attended the girl's funeral & paid her respects. After all she was essentially her stepmother & knew her for many years prior to that. To not attend because she saw Ian with Jane was silly, that's hardly Lucy's fault is it?! Lola was clearly uncomfortable seeing Peter with Lauren but you didn't see her storming off!
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Old 24-05-2014, 16:34
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Denise was more concerned about Patrick who is old and would have been better off in the car where other people could help him out rather than in a taxi by himself. That's why Denise decided to go with Libby and Patrick.

Ian just turfed out Patrick to get Christian in the car even though he is less family than Denise, his fiancée. I found it very insensitive of Ian to do that. I don't blame Denise for doing what she did.

Ian has been treating her like dirt for months, and seeing him and Jane frolicking outside the funeral venue was probably the last straw for Denise.
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Old 24-05-2014, 16:46
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Denise was more concerned about Patrick who is old and would have been better off in the car where other people could help him out rather than in a taxi by himself. That's why Denise decided to go with Libby and Patrick.

Ian just turfed out Patrick to get Christian in the car even though he is less family than Denise, his fiancée. I found it very insensitive of Ian to do that. I don't blame Denise for doing what she did.

Ian has been treating her like dirt for months, and seeing him and Jane frolicking outside the funeral venue was probably the last straw for Denise.
Patrick's hardly a frail old man. He quite often goes off on his own for weeks at a time and manages perfectly well. I'm sure he could've got in and out a taxi without help.
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Old 24-05-2014, 16:47
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What annoyed me was Libby and Denise arriving at the funeral and made the taxi driver turn around all because Ian was hugging Jane. Jane was Lucy's step mother for a long time so of course they should comfort each other at the funeral. Stupid to get jealous about that.
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Old 24-05-2014, 16:54
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Exactly...and Denise is his partner so should have been able to bring her daughter....Christian is nothing to do with Lucy ...
Christian was her uncle, what has Libby to do with Lucy.

No one said Libby wasn't allowed to go. There just wasn't enough room in the car so some of them had to go in another vehicle. For some incomprehensible reason Denise said that Patrick couldn't travel on his own and then when Cindy turned up that she would go with Libby and him. I thought it was a reasonable decision in the circumstances but Denise and Libby seemed to take it as an attack on Denise's relationship with Ian. I'd take the fact neither of them actually love each other as a bigger attack tbh
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Old 24-05-2014, 17:01
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Patrick's hardly a frail old man. He quite often goes off on his own for weeks at a time and manages perfectly well. I'm sure he could've got in and out a taxi without help.
I think Denise is still concerned after his accident at the B&B, and rightly so. Patrick may be capable, but surely it would make more sense to let him go in the car rather than Christian who could have taken the taxi without any problem.

It just showed to Denise that Ian doesn't really care about her or her family.
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Old 24-05-2014, 17:03
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What annoyed me was Libby and Denise arriving at the funeral and made the taxi driver turn around all because Ian was hugging Jane. Jane was Lucy's step mother for a long time so of course they should comfort each other at the funeral. Stupid to get jealous about that.
Wasn't Jane pretty much like Lucy's mother for most of her life? So basically only Jane understands what Ian is going through as she'd be feeling the same as him. There's no way that Denise could have replaced that, even if she and Ian weren't going through problems.
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Old 24-05-2014, 17:12
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No, I didn't find Denise's actions shocking. She has stood by Ian whilst he has treated her like the hired help and only turned away from the funeral service when she saw Ian chasing after Jane. Good on her.

Ian's behaviour, on the other hand, was both shocking and distasteful.
This. I agree.
She was going to leave him the day Lucy was found and Ltbby knows that...come the openning of the restaurant out of all of them he asks Denise to clean the bogs.
This. Ian annoyed me when asked Denise to clean the toilets. He has shut her out the rest of the time. I don't blame Denise for her behaviour.
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