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Is the old soap duopoly of EastEnders + Corrie winning the big awards over?
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gilesb
25-05-2014
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“For years now we have had 2 big soaps arguably 3 and then Hollyoaks.

In terms of awards especially the big awards ie best soap the two big soaps Coronation Street and EastEnders have dominated.This has slowly been chipped away but to my mind Hollyoaks winning best soap takes us into a totally new scenario in terms of these soap awards.

Just as theres been talk in politics of the political duopoly or dominance of Labour and the tories being over first with the lib dem coalition and now UKIP upsetting all parties political strategies.
I would say its now the same with the soap awards,the old duoploy dominance of Coronation Street and EastEnders is bust.

Everythings now up for grabs at these awards now.

We dont have to like it or respect why people vote the way they do but its the new era in my opinion.

A 4 soap system just like a 4 party political system?”

There is not a 4 party political system. UKIP like the Greens in the 80s may gain some euro MPs but they will not gain any actual MPs this time next year. I don't think many people see any change to the two party uk politics.

Just as there is no end to the dominance of EE and CS as the two main soaps.
Hildaonpluto
25-05-2014
Originally Posted by gilesb:
“There is not a 4 party political system. UKIP like the Greens in the 80s may gain some euro MPs but they will not gain any actual MPs this time next year. I don't think many people see any change to the two party uk politics.

Just as there is no end to the dominance of EE and CS as the two main soaps.”

The fact many pollsters think the decreasing dominance and lessening ability to garner anything like 40% support by the 2 main parties means hung parliaments and coalitions may become the norm not the exception is hardly insignificant.
IWasBored
26-05-2014
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“It needs to be put into prospective. Unless Hollyoaks start winning at other award shows only then can it be taken seriously. I think this win discredits the BSAs personally and does raise questions about mutli voting.

Hollyoaks never makes the short lists for the BAFTA or RTS awards. So the high brow award shows aren't taking it seriously.”

Well really Broadchurch should have won best continuing drama at the BAFTA's because it is more academic than CS. Are the NTA's prestigious?

Soaps are the most watched programs int he UK so nothing wrong with a ceremony especially for soap. What about if I decide who wins next year based on entertainment value, then I could decide the BAFTA wins based on how academic a program is.

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“Hollyoaks - UKIP (The underdog that surprises everyone)”

IS BK Farage? Thinking of him on Question Time a few weeks ago and how well he and reduced or criticism of himself like it with a clever ease. Then towards the end all the other party political parties were shouting at him, he made them look like fools. So that is great if Hollyoaks are UKIP and Ferarge is BK.
Hildaonpluto
26-05-2014
Originally Posted by barrcode88:
“Creating fake email accounts and deleting caches and cookies off your web browser (very easy to do) so one can vote multiple times over isn't having a passionate fan base, its unofficial cheating in a way.”

Done by fans of all soaps.No evidence its widespread or worse with Hollyoaks fans.
IWasBored
26-05-2014
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Everyone with a BARB box has to log in each time they watch a show. So if four people are in the room. Four people are logged along with their age/sex etc

No one is saying multiple voting is exclusive to Hollyoaks, they are just saying this win has highlighted how rife it is.

Valid point I would say.”

No that isn't. Especially now you explained that you have own a BARB box in order for your view to be counted. That's probably why you insist that HO receives 1m viewers when it is watched by 3million.
Antpants
26-05-2014
How long is it till people will stop moaning
Hildaonpluto
26-05-2014
Originally Posted by Antpants:
“How long is it till people will stop moaning”

Hopefully soon!Less sour grapes would aid this process!A wins a win ultimately.
Leeah
26-05-2014
No. This is a one off I bet, gotta let them win at least once yano..
Hildaonpluto
26-05-2014
Originally Posted by Leeah:
“No. This is a one off I bet, gotta let them win at least once yano..”

I wouldnt be so sure.....
Hildaonpluto
27-05-2014
I think it will be interesting to see if Hollyoaks or Emmerdale win best soap at the TV Choice awards and if Emmerdale wins best soap again at the Inside Soap awards.
Danny_Francis
28-05-2014
Let's hope so
Hildaonpluto
28-05-2014
Originally Posted by Danny_Francis:
“Let's hope so”

Healthy competition
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