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Old 25-05-2014, 13:16
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I've seen a lot of comments, not just on this forum, about how Hollyoaks shouldn't have won Best Soap last night at the BSA's. Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I personally don't enjoy Emmerdale but love Hollyoaks.

However, the one gripe that I have got with some comments is that the "teenyboppers" have left in charge of the internet voting, somehow completely overhauling the system and giving Hollyoaks an unfair win. This to me is ridiculous. If these "teenyboppers" really have done this then why didn't Hollyoaks win everything? With David Neilson and Julie Hesmondhaulgh winning best actor and actress (deservedly so!) then can Hollyoaks' win really be written off as an internet invasion?
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:19
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Split vote caused David and Julie to win. Its obvious and doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

Hollyoaks is very entertaining. There is always something happening. its just too sensationalist for me. I also really think the way they handed the male rape storyline was appalling.

The main gripe I have with Hollyoaks winning though is that is for Bryan Kirkwood's work. This is the man who pulled EE to its knees and killed off Pat Butcher. I find it difficult to accept him winning awards for great work on one soap when he almost ruined another.

That's the issue I'm wrestling with over this result. I'm pleased for the cast though. They must feel amazing right now.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:21
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Split vote in Actor and Actress, giving Julie and David the win. Then a clear choice for Villain, Sexiest Male.

I read a tweet that said the person had voted from over 30 accounts and got the family involved too.

Good team work! Lol.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:23
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Hollyoaks should have won other years and didn't yet won in its least deserving year. That's my opinion. Kirkwood is a terrible ep and this just will feed his ego even more and continue churning out the rubbish.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:25
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I'm soo happy they won, my vote was actually worth something
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:32
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Split vote caused David and Julie to win. Its obvious and doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

Hollyoaks is very entertaining. There is always something happening. its just too sensationalist for me. I also really think the way they handed the male rape storyline was appalling.

The main gripe I have with Hollyoaks winning though is that is for Bryan Kirkwood's work. This is the man who pulled EE to its knees and killed off Pat Butcher. I find it difficult to accept him winning awards for great work on one soap when he almost ruined another.

That's the issue I'm wrestling with over this result. I'm pleased for the cast though. They must feel amazing right now.
I didn't realise there was a split vote. How can you tell? (Without meaning to sound dense!)

I can understand your feelings towards BK. It is a true shame what he did with Eastenders, but Hollyoaks has always been his forte. His first stint with JP and Craig, Hannah's anorexia etc.. never really got the recognition they deserved. Hollyoaks have had a brilliant year, and as you say they must be so proud of themselves for the achievement
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:34
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Split vote caused David and Julie to win. Its obvious and doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

Hollyoaks is very entertaining. There is always something happening. its just too sensationalist for me. I also really think the way they handed the male rape storyline was appalling.

The main gripe I have with Hollyoaks winning though is that is for Bryan Kirkwood's work. This is the man who pulled EE to its knees and killed off Pat Butcher. I find it difficult to accept him winning awards for great work on one soap when he almost ruined another.

That's the issue I'm wrestling with over this result. I'm pleased for the cast though. They must feel amazing right now.
He has ruined hollyoaks as well, IMO
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:38
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As I said in a previous thread this probably means a lot to the cast & crew of Hollyoaks, so at the end of the day they won fair and square regardless of the voting strategy, it's more then that for them, it's recognition after being seen as nothing but a teen soap for so long.

But I still stand by my opinion that this year has been one of the worse in HO storyline wise, last summer had so much potential but BK has brought the show down, the amounts of deaths and sensationalism has been OTT and shoddy and the handling of JP rape storyline has been horrible and one of the worse handling of a rape storyline out of any soap.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:41
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Split vote caused David and Julie to win. Its obvious and doesn't take a genius to figure it out.
Hollyoaks had 3 nominees in Villain of the Year but still managed to win that category. I thought it would be very easy for Eastenders or Emmerdale to win that award, due to the Hollyoaks vote being split 3 ways.

On Hollyoaks in general.. there's lots of criticism on these forums but that seems to be a DS thing. The 2009-2012 period very nearly saw Hollyoaks axed due to all time low ratings, love him or loath him Kirkwood has brought it back from the brink.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:42
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Hollyoaks had 3 nominees in Villain of the Year but still managed to win that category. I thought it would be very easy for Eastenders or Emmerdale to win that award, due to the Hollyoaks vote being split 3 ways.

On Hollyoaks in general.. there's lots of criticism on these forums but that seems to be a DS thing. The 2009-2012 period very nearly saw Hollyoaks axed due to all time low ratings, love him or loath him Kirkwood has brought it back from the brink.
But only one clear winner in Sienna who many Hollyoaks fans were voting for as they felt she was robbed of the NTA.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:44
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Could of understood HO winning last year but this year? No... They've have a ferocious campaign going on twitter and as much as it is unfair people were making multiple accounts, There really is no denying that as some people were even tweeting about it.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:51
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Could of understood HO winning last year but this year? No... They've have a ferocious campaign going on twitter and as much as it is unfair people were making multiple accounts, There really is no denying that as some people were even tweeting about it.
Foul play has obviously taken place. Someone made a great point in another thread. Hollyoaks gets like one million viewers an episode. Lets say 2.5 million voted in these soap awards.. how on earth did Hollyoaks manage to win?

See its clear this was no fair fight.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:53
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How can people say they could have understand Oaks winning last yr but not this yr, then talk about viewing figures etc wouldn't have been the same for last yr as well if Oaks had won. It's not like they were getting 5 millions in the ratings last yr, so how does that work.
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Old 25-05-2014, 13:53
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Foul play has obviously taken place. Someone made a great point in another thread. Hollyoaks gets like one million viewers an episode. Lets say 2.5 million voted in these soap awards.. how on earth did Hollyoaks manage to win?

See its clear this was no fair fight.
That's exactly what I said last night when I saw the results, viewing figures make it stand out like a sore thumb. Doubt it'll investigated or anything though, which is a shame really.
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Old 25-05-2014, 14:00
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He has ruined hollyoaks as well, IMO
Hardly.

Ratings are up and they've just won best soap at the soap awards for the first time ever. He has done a great job with Hollyoaks during both stints.
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Old 25-05-2014, 14:00
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How can people say they could have understand Oaks winning last yr but not this yr, then talk about viewing figures etc wouldn't have been the same for last yr as well if Oaks had won. It's not like they were getting 5 millions in the ratings last yr, so how does that work.
Well for me it's more about the storylines. If hollyoaks had won a few years ago I would have been delighted but not this year when kirkwood changes personalities to suit the already sensationalised storyline, makes victims of rape and domestic abuse suffer and prolong the suffering and pushing the worst actors in it to the forefront.
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Old 25-05-2014, 14:16
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Foul play has obviously taken place. Someone made a great point in another thread. Hollyoaks gets like one million viewers an episode. Lets say 2.5 million voted in these soap awards.. how on earth did Hollyoaks manage to win?

See its clear this was no fair fight.
If it was foul play then Hollyoaks would have won more than four awards. Also many Hollyoaks fans watch the show on catch up so it could easily have up to 2.5 million viewers altogether. I don't see why there has to have been foul play involved. Hollyoaks has had a great year (2013 - 2014) and it's about time the show got some recognition.
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Old 25-05-2014, 14:23
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Well for me it's more about the storylines. If hollyoaks had won a few years ago I would have been delighted but not this year when kirkwood changes personalities to suit the already sensationalised storyline, makes victims of rape and domestic abuse suffer and prolong the suffering and pushing the worst actors in it to the forefront.
Surely you don't mean Best Newcomer nominated Charlie Clapham?
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Old 25-05-2014, 14:25
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Well for me it's more about the storylines. If hollyoaks had won a few years ago I would have been delighted but not this year when kirkwood changes personalities to suit the already sensationalised storyline, makes victims of rape and domestic abuse suffer and prolong the suffering and pushing the worst actors in it to the forefront.
I agree with this. I haven't bothered watching the past few weeks purely for this reason.

I'm surprised Hollyoaks won best soap but Stephanie Davis never won best actress . The majority of episodes this year have heavily featured Sinead.

Very pleased for Anna Passey. And for Ellis Hollins for finally winning. Now he's won, Little Leah should be nominated next year
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Old 25-05-2014, 14:32
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Hollyoaks deserved to win back in 2007/2008 when BK was first in charge and the big stories were JP and Craig and Hannah's eating disorder. I was gutted it didn't win best soap (and best actor for James) that year.

However now BK is in charge again, the show is an absolute mess and definitely did not deserve it's win.
It's seemingly constant shock twists have no consequences or aftermath. It's totally ruined a storyline it promised would be 'sensitively handled' (JP's rape), it's obsessed with gangster storylines and gives the most screentime to some of it's worst actors (the guy who played crazy Will, Freddie etc) whilst ignoring its best ones.

Even though I like Anna Passey (Sienna), I'm not sure how I feel about her winning best villain on account of the fact that that particular storyline turned a character I liked (Darren) into an extremely unpleasant and unlikeable one for the sake of the storyline. Once aain characters changing personalities to suit storylines. Another one of Hollyoaks problems..

I fear things are only going to get worse now. This might encourage BK to be even more over the top. I expect even more explosions, deaths and gangsters from here on in.
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Old 25-05-2014, 14:41
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Hollyoaks had 3 nominees in Villain of the Year but still managed to win that category. I thought it would be very easy for Eastenders or Emmerdale to win that award, due to the Hollyoaks vote being split 3 ways.

On Hollyoaks in general.. there's lots of criticism on these forums but that seems to be a DS thing. The 2009-2012 period very nearly saw Hollyoaks axed due to all time low ratings, love him or loath him Kirkwood has brought it back from the brink.
Very true.
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Old 25-05-2014, 15:10
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Hollyoaks gets like one million viewers an episode. Lets say 2.5 million voted in these soap awards.. how on earth did Hollyoaks manage to win?
The average for the year to date is 2.3m per episode.

C4 + E4 = Total
2012 - 1.11m + 728k = 1.84m
2013 - 1.14m + 887k = 2.03m
2014 - 1.19m + 1.17m = 2.36m (as of May 16th)
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Old 25-05-2014, 15:13
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Hollyoaks is not best soap, and it's painfully obvious it was the teenybobbers online, look at the ratings. Logic alone suggests even if Hollyoaks was a good tv show (it isn't) the fact it has 1m views against EE/Corries 7 - 9m means it shouldn't win anything.
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Old 25-05-2014, 15:13
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Apparently split vote which in my opinion is BS, not everyone wanted Hollyoaks to win everything and people did actually vote for other things aswell. Just my opinion though x
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Old 25-05-2014, 15:16
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The average for the year to date is 2.3m per episode.
Well even so its still a stretch to believe at least 2 million people voted for Hollyoaks. This would mean its entire audience had to have voted. Its just not plausible. Philip said during last years opening segment THREE MILLION votes had been cast. Explain to me if the same happened this year how Hollyoaks managed to win?

Split votes also do happen and have happened many times at the BSAs and NTAs before. So I don't know why people are suddenly acting like it doesn't. Its been discussed on here many times over the years.

INFACT! LOL Hollyoaks fans used the split vote excuse as the reason James Sutton lost out to Anthony Cotton that year.
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