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Nexus 4 to a Nexus 5?
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The Sack
30-05-2014
Originally Posted by TheVoid:
“Not sure the N5 is any better in terms of battery though is it?”

Mine came off charge 8 hours 10 minutes ago and the battery has dropped to 99% so standby times are much better.

Stock ROM using Davlik (Cant see any improvements using ART other than in your own head and in my case ART uses an extra 500MB of storage), Google Now on, WiFi on with a couple of emails collected in the night and a Three signal that's hanging on for grim death.
jonmorris
30-05-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“go there and enjoy the event and keep your phone in your pocket.”

Fantastic advice. Shame I've been guilty of this many times!

There are far too many events I've been to where I've never really experienced things properly because I've been taking photos or video to enjoy it 'later'.

And most phones aren't great at capturing audio in loud places. Nokia has done a lot of work. HTC has too (so much so it got into a lot of trouble with Nokia) and now LG's G3 also adapts for the ambient noise - although I've not had a chance to test it and don't know if anyone else has either yet.
Stiggles
30-05-2014
Originally Posted by The Sack:
“Mine came off charge 8 hours 10 minutes ago and the battery has dropped to 99% so standby times are much better.

Stock ROM using Davlik (Cant see any improvements using ART other than in your own head and in my case ART uses an extra 500MB of storage), Google Now on, WiFi on with a couple of emails collected in the night and a Three signal that's hanging on for grim death.”

It's not in your own head. It is much faster. We have 2 Nexus 5's in the house and I pitted them side by side. App opening is far faster for a start.

Agree though that the battery is much better than the nexus 4.
Zack06
30-05-2014
I made the change, and the Nexus 5 is better. 4G performance is great and the screen is better than the Nexus 4.
jonmorris
30-05-2014
ART is faster precisely because of that extra storage space used up. That's the code that doesn't need to be compiled every time, saving on power consumption too. If you can use it, you should.
johnathome
30-05-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“some people go to a live music event to actually watch the show thru their eyes and listen to it thru their ears....... and not thru a mobile phone screen

go there and enjoy the event and keep your phone in your pocket.”

Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Fantastic advice. Shame I've been guilty of this many times!

There are far too many events I've been to where I've never really experienced things properly because I've been taking photos or video to enjoy it 'later'.

And most phones aren't great at capturing audio in loud places. Nokia has done a lot of work. HTC has too (so much so it got into a lot of trouble with Nokia) and now LG's G3 also adapts for the ambient noise - although I've not had a chance to test it and don't know if anyone else has either yet.”

Are these actually serious replies?

I mean no-one ever took a photo of anything, in the world ever, because they were 'experiencing' things?

Well that's killed Youtube and the Pullitzer prize
jonmorris
31-05-2014
There's taking a photo or a short video or there's the new trend for everyone to think they're a paid photo journalist and take hundreds of photos all night, or want to film the whole thing to upload on YouTube (and then wonder why it's removed due to a copyright claim!).

I think we all know the difference. And I did follow up by pointing out that some phones are better than others are recording audio in loud environments.
flagpole
31-05-2014
This is basically what concerts look like now

https://www.wow247.co.uk/wp-content/...ert-phones.jpg
The Sack
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“It's not in your own head. It is much faster. We have 2 Nexus 5's in the house and I pitted them side by side. App opening is far faster for a start.

Agree though that the battery is much better than the nexus 4.”

if making an app open a split second here and a split second there is going to change your life then good on you fella, it wont actually make the app run faster, its a runtime not a processor overclocking magician, personally i prefer the extra storage space.

As you are probably aware YouTube is full of videos like this http://youtu.be/KNuTpOjTEPI http://youtu.be/ptpsw9bozoA

One day ART will be superb, just not yet.
The Sack
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“ART is faster precisely because of that extra storage space used up. That's the code that doesn't need to be compiled every time, saving on power consumption too. If you can use it, you should.”

See the post above.
The Sack
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“ART is faster precisely because of that extra storage space used up. That's the code that doesn't need to be compiled every time, saving on power consumption too. If you can use it, you should.”

Aye the battery savings are simply mind blowing! http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/01...t-not-too-bad/
jonmorris
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by The Sack:
“See the post above.”

You say it isn't that much quicker, but it is still quicker, and even more so for slower devices like the Moto G. To me it's worth it, especially as it will eventually be the default.
flagpole
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by The Sack:
“Aye the battery savings are simply mind blowing! http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/01...t-not-too-bad/”

The saving on battery and time comes on launching apps. playing a 3 hour video on a loop is a ridiculous test.

art is faster and soon to be the default. and that is reason enough for me.
jonmorris
31-05-2014
Yes, the tests on the above site did appear to be from someone not fully aware of what it actually is or does!
GeordiePaul
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“It's not in your own head. It is much faster. We have 2 Nexus 5's in the house and I pitted them side by side. App opening is far faster for a start.

Agree though that the battery is much better than the nexus 4.”

I've tried both, I totally disagree with you, can you prove it is much faster please because I fail to see how it could be much quicker than it already is.
Stiggles
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by GeordiePaul:
“I've tried both, I totally disagree with you, can you prove it is much faster please because I fail to see how it could be much quicker than it already is.”

As I said, we have 2 in the house and I did one art and one Davlik. The art one was much faster opening apps and loading times were faster. Battery life is also better.

Nothing to be proved really when that's what the idea behind it is!!
Stiggles
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by The Sack:
“if making an app open a split second here and a split second there is going to change your life then good on you fella, it wont actually make the app run faster, its a runtime not a processor overclocking magician, personally i prefer the extra storage space.

As you are probably aware YouTube is full of videos like this http://youtu.be/KNuTpOjTEPI http://youtu.be/ptpsw9bozoA

One day ART will be superb, just not yet.”

I don't think anyone has ever suggested it is a magician. What it is, is faster. I also never suggested it would change my life. I simply said it was faster, which it is.
klendathu
31-05-2014
I've had an Nexus 5 for 4 months , and can honestly say i've had nothing but problems.

Signal drop outs across the board on Wifi, 3G ,4G, and screen freezing everyday .

The cult of Nexus is not all it's cracked up to be be
flagpole
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by klendathu:
“I've had an Nexus 5 for 4 months , and can honestly say i've had nothing but problems.

Signal drop outs across the board on Wifi, 3G ,4G, and screen freezing everyday .

The cult of Nexus is not all it's cracked up to be be”

Sounds like yours is faulty.
TheVoid
31-05-2014
Originally Posted by flagpole:
“Sounds like yours is faulty.”

Agreed. Mine has been perfect.
chenks
01-06-2014
Originally Posted by klendathu:
“I've had an Nexus 5 for 4 months , and can honestly say i've had nothing but problems.

Signal drop outs across the board on Wifi, 3G ,4G, and screen freezing everyday .

The cult of Nexus is not all it's cracked up to be be”

clearly a faulty device.
Stiggles
01-06-2014
Originally Posted by klendathu:
“I've had an Nexus 5 for 4 months , and can honestly say i've had nothing but problems.

Signal drop outs across the board on Wifi, 3G ,4G, and screen freezing everyday .

The cult of Nexus is not all it's cracked up to be be”

Did you ever consider that you have a faulty unit?..... Or is it easier just to rubbish a whole line of phones because you are having a problem?...
klendathu
01-06-2014
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Did you ever consider that you have a faulty unit?..... Or is it easier just to rubbish a whole line of phones because you are having a problem?...”

Its lucky you're here
Stiggles
01-06-2014
Originally Posted by klendathu:
“Its lucky you're here ”

Lost me now.....
jonner101
01-06-2014
Ive been using the ART for a few months now on the N5. It seems pretty rock solid stable.

It doesn't magically double the speed of the phone but it is most certainly noticeably real world quicker with better battery.

It is clearly a better architecture and will get optimised even more in time. The JIT nature of Dalvik is a very unnecessary bottle neck for a modern smartphone.

More and more applications will get optimised for ART in the future and it will become the default way of running Android apps.
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