iPhone about to be found/hijacked. So maybe best to turn off 'find my phone'.

IvanIV · 27-05-2014, 23:45

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There was the goto fail bug which made the news a few months ago, but apparently existed for long time, which was Apple's SSL/TLS vulnerability. Although it's since been patched, perhaps some passwords were compromised using that?

There was something about a guy getting information about accounts of Apple employees to prove that their infrastructure wasn't safe, not sure if that included passwords though. When a vulnerability is reported it's possible it was already exploited, or right after that. One does not have to use the information immediately, they can sit on it for a while before striking.

Everything Goes · 28-05-2014, 01:31

I wonder if Apple patented this feature yet

johnathome · 28-05-2014, 02:58

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Originally Posted by Everything Goes

I wonder if Apple patented this feature yet

Well if this ever happens to an Android device wait for the lawsuits to start flying!

alanwarwic · 28-05-2014, 10:15

Well, I get the impression now that this became hot news mainly because of the current spate of stolen user data.

grumpyoldbat · 29-05-2014, 09:11

According to Apple there is no breach and each of the people involved had used other services which had been breached and used the same password for everything.

Once again, this just reinforces the need for unique passwords for all online accounts. Whilst you probably can't avoid the risk of being hacked at some point, you can limit the damage it can cause.

kidspud · 29-05-2014, 10:14

Also shows it is best to not over-react to headlines when the actual issue is not understood. I assume some will be advising to switch find my phone back on again.

alanwarwic · 29-05-2014, 10:19

It only made big news because of timing of all the stolen data from the likes of ebay and Spotify.

However there are good lessons for everyone here especially as it is said half the US have had their personal details nicked here and there last year.

IvanIV · 29-05-2014, 10:55

Apple should just force 2 step login on their customers for their own good.

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 08:50

Turns out that android actually has been hijacked.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27703318

I look forward to the advice that we should all remove the SD cards from our phones.

alanwarwic · 05-06-2014, 09:52

Maybe you should try and understand those Android SD card access changes we talked about earlier. (other threads maybe)

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 10:14

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Maybe you should try and understand those Android SD card access changes we talked about earlier. (other threads maybe)

are you saying this isn't a problem for anyone. That's reassuring.

alanwarwic · 05-06-2014, 10:32

Yes, that is how it now is, those very same SD card access rights that got described as being completely useless. (not by you).

Personally I prefer full open access, but even as is now but an SD card means a device is not that severely limited by lack of memory.
Up to 128GB extra storage(0r 258GB for dual SD phones) is very much 'music to my ears'.

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 10:55

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Yes, that is how it now is, those very same SD card access rights that got described as being completely useless. (not by you).

Personally I prefer full open access, but even as is now but an SD card means a device is not that severely limited by lack of memory.
Up to 128GB extra storage(0r 258GB for dual SD phones) is very much 'music to my ears'.

I'm not sure highlighting the merits of extra storage has anything to do with the article I linked to which relates to hijacking of SD cards.

Now if you are saying this issue has already been solved (I assume that is subject to which version of android you are running), then that is very reassuring. Although I'm not quite sure now that statement can be made based on the information available.

alanwarwic · 05-06-2014, 11:14

Obviously it looks solved though rooting tricks could give back access but that is a user choice.

And yes sorry, I forgot your major role as my 'thought policeman'.

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 11:22

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Obviously it looks solved though rooting tricks could give back access but that is a user choice.

And yes sorry, I forgot your major role as my 'thought policeman'.

I'm not sure what you are talking about and it is a shame you were unable to have a sensbile conversation without some silly comment.

I posted an article which was very closely related to the hijacking issue posted about iOS (although that appears to have been more of an issue with users securing their accounts). The advice then was to disable the service (find my phone) and use the full security features available.

It seems in this case you are saying the 'problem' has already been solved, but I'm still not sure how.

psionic · 05-06-2014, 11:25

So is this a variant of GoZeus/CryptoLocker ??

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 11:37

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Originally Posted by psionic

So is this a variant of GoZeus/CryptoLocker ??

It appears to be that sort of attack, although it also appears to be very immature at this point in time.

alanwarwic · 05-06-2014, 11:48

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Originally Posted by kidspud

I'm not sure what you are talking about and it is a shame you were unable to have a sensbile conversation without some silly comment.
....It seems in this case you are saying the 'problem' has already been solved, but I'm still not sure how.

When near every reply is "not sure what you are talking about" how can I not have been sensible?

Read up or read the relevant forum posts again. I'm not your waiter/cook/tutor!

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 12:06

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

When near every reply is "not sure what you are talking about" how can I not have been sensible?

Read up or read the relevant forum posts again. I'm not your waiter/cook/tutor!

You definately are not my tutor, you've got something right.

Waiter or cook.....that might suit you better

I've read all I need thanks. It is clearly an issue that is worth highlighting despite your attempts to dismiss it.

alanwarwic · 05-06-2014, 12:20

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Originally Posted by kidspud

...It is clearly an issue that is worth highlighting despite your attempts to dismiss it.

And I just highlighted the problem of rooting.

Try again!

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 13:55

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

And I just highlighted the problem of rooting.

Try again!

What do you mean, 'try again'. Are you just trolling?

So this problem is only related to those that root their phones? Are you guessing, or have you read that somewhere?

alanwarwic · 05-06-2014, 14:04

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Originally Posted by kidspud

...Are you guessing, or have you read that somewhere?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

..it is a shame you were unable to have a sensbile conversation without some silly comment....
It seems in this case you are saying the 'problem' has already been solved, but I'm still not sure how.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

... despite your attempts to dismiss it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

Are you just trolling?

Tiring.

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 15:08

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Tiring.

Yes it is. Shame you've been unable to answer any of the questions.

For the rest of us it is a genuine concern which I hope google will comment on a if necessary offer a fix to prevent it.

alanwarwic · 05-06-2014, 17:04

Did you not notice psionic also try to develop a discussion you are showing no interest in?
You keep reverting to 'Vallhund MK 2'.

kidspud · 05-06-2014, 17:49

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Did you not notice psionic also try to develop a discussion you are showing no interest in?
You keep reverting to 'Vallhund MK 2'.

You mean the one I replied to?

27-05-2014, 23:45	#26
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic There was the goto fail bug which made the news a few months ago, but apparently existed for long time, which was Apple's SSL/TLS vulnerability. Although it's since been patched, perhaps some passwords were compromised using that? There was something about a guy getting information about accounts of Apple employees to prove that their infrastructure wasn't safe, not sure if that included passwords though. When a vulnerability is reported it's possible it was already exploited, or right after that. One does not have to use the information immediately, they can sit on it for a while before striking.

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28-05-2014, 01:31	#27
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	I wonder if Apple patented this feature yet

28-05-2014, 02:58	#28
johnathome Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pompey Posts: 1,068	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes I wonder if Apple patented this feature yet Well if this ever happens to an Android device wait for the lawsuits to start flying!

28-05-2014, 10:15	#29
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Well, I get the impression now that this became hot news mainly because of the current spate of stolen user data.

29-05-2014, 09:11	#30
grumpyoldbat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,636	According to Apple there is no breach and each of the people involved had used other services which had been breached and used the same password for everything. Once again, this just reinforces the need for unique passwords for all online accounts. Whilst you probably can't avoid the risk of being hacked at some point, you can limit the damage it can cause.

29-05-2014, 10:14	#31
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Also shows it is best to not over-react to headlines when the actual issue is not understood. I assume some will be advising to switch find my phone back on again.

29-05-2014, 10:19	#32
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	It only made big news because of timing of all the stolen data from the likes of ebay and Spotify. However there are good lessons for everyone here especially as it is said half the US have had their personal details nicked here and there last year.

29-05-2014, 10:55	#33
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	Apple should just force 2 step login on their customers for their own good.

05-06-2014, 08:50	#34
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Turns out that android actually has been hijacked. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27703318 I look forward to the advice that we should all remove the SD cards from our phones.

05-06-2014, 09:52	#35
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Maybe you should try and understand those Android SD card access changes we talked about earlier. (other threads maybe)

05-06-2014, 10:14	#36
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Maybe you should try and understand those Android SD card access changes we talked about earlier. (other threads maybe) are you saying this isn't a problem for anyone. That's reassuring.

05-06-2014, 10:32	#37
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Yes, that is how it now is, those very same SD card access rights that got described as being completely useless. (not by you). Personally I prefer full open access, but even as is now but an SD card means a device is not that severely limited by lack of memory. Up to 128GB extra storage(0r 258GB for dual SD phones) is very much 'music to my ears'.

05-06-2014, 10:55	#38
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Yes, that is how it now is, those very same SD card access rights that got described as being completely useless. (not by you). Personally I prefer full open access, but even as is now but an SD card means a device is not that severely limited by lack of memory. Up to 128GB extra storage(0r 258GB for dual SD phones) is very much 'music to my ears'. I'm not sure highlighting the merits of extra storage has anything to do with the article I linked to which relates to hijacking of SD cards. Now if you are saying this issue has already been solved (I assume that is subject to which version of android you are running), then that is very reassuring. Although I'm not quite sure now that statement can be made based on the information available.

05-06-2014, 11:14	#39
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Obviously it looks solved though rooting tricks could give back access but that is a user choice. And yes sorry, I forgot your major role as my 'thought policeman'.

05-06-2014, 11:22	#40
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Obviously it looks solved though rooting tricks could give back access but that is a user choice. And yes sorry, I forgot your major role as my 'thought policeman'. I'm not sure what you are talking about and it is a shame you were unable to have a sensbile conversation without some silly comment. I posted an article which was very closely related to the hijacking issue posted about iOS (although that appears to have been more of an issue with users securing their accounts). The advice then was to disable the service (find my phone) and use the full security features available. It seems in this case you are saying the 'problem' has already been solved, but I'm still not sure how.

05-06-2014, 11:25	#41
psionic Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Crystal Palace TX Posts: 19,702	So is this a variant of GoZeus/CryptoLocker ??

05-06-2014, 11:37	#42
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by psionic So is this a variant of GoZeus/CryptoLocker ?? It appears to be that sort of attack, although it also appears to be very immature at this point in time.

05-06-2014, 11:48	#43
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud I'm not sure what you are talking about and it is a shame you were unable to have a sensbile conversation without some silly comment. ....It seems in this case you are saying the 'problem' has already been solved, but I'm still not sure how. When near every reply is "not sure what you are talking about" how can I not have been sensible? Read up or read the relevant forum posts again. I'm not your waiter/cook/tutor!

05-06-2014, 12:06	#44
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic When near every reply is "not sure what you are talking about" how can I not have been sensible? Read up or read the relevant forum posts again. I'm not your waiter/cook/tutor! You definately are not my tutor, you've got something right. Waiter or cook.....that might suit you better I've read all I need thanks. It is clearly an issue that is worth highlighting despite your attempts to dismiss it.

05-06-2014, 12:20	#45
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud ...It is clearly an issue that is worth highlighting despite your attempts to dismiss it. And I just highlighted the problem of rooting. Try again!

05-06-2014, 13:55	#46
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic And I just highlighted the problem of rooting. Try again! What do you mean, 'try again'. Are you just trolling? So this problem is only related to those that root their phones? Are you guessing, or have you read that somewhere?

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iPhone about to be found/hijacked. So maybe best to turn off 'find my phone'.

05-06-2014, 14:04	#47
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud ...Are you guessing, or have you read that somewhere? Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud ..it is a shame you were unable to have a sensbile conversation without some silly comment.... It seems in this case you are saying the 'problem' has already been solved, but I'm still not sure how. Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud ... despite your attempts to dismiss it. Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Are you just trolling? Tiring.

05-06-2014, 15:08	#48
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Tiring. Yes it is. Shame you've been unable to answer any of the questions. For the rest of us it is a genuine concern which I hope google will comment on a if necessary offer a fix to prevent it.

05-06-2014, 17:04	#49
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Did you not notice psionic also try to develop a discussion you are showing no interest in? You keep reverting to 'Vallhund MK 2'.

05-06-2014, 17:49	#50
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Did you not notice psionic also try to develop a discussion you are showing no interest in? You keep reverting to 'Vallhund MK 2'. You mean the one I replied to?