I always imagined that Lucy was jealous of Whitney as her friendship with Lauren seemed strained at times. People always assume Lucy and Lauren were best friends for a long time when in fact, it was only Lauren's crush on Peter that brought them close at times. After Whitney's arrival, Whitney and Lauren were friends and more so than Lucy and Lauren. Lucy was just plain nasty and held a grudge to everyone. She used Lauren as a way, in these recent months to get closer to Max and for the money.
why did whitney hate lucy beale so much
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Originally Posted by karl93:
“Cause lucy has class, style, a career and men drooling over her, Whitney has nothing”
“Cause lucy has class, style, a career and men drooling over her, Whitney has nothing”
Absolutely.
Originally Posted by MrsCloumbo:
“Whitney always looks grubby and unkempt, like she needs a bloody good scrub in the shower.
She was always jealous of the cool and lovely Lucy.
Whitney is just plain, rotten and nasty.”
“Whitney always looks grubby and unkempt, like she needs a bloody good scrub in the shower.
She was always jealous of the cool and lovely Lucy.
Whitney is just plain, rotten and nasty.”
Rotten to the core....she's trash!
Originally Posted by SoapBaby:
“Just jumping to Whitney's defense here about the BIB, Whitney has only slept with actual boyfriends (if you don't count the rapes) she was in a relationship with whereas Lucy slept around quite a bit. Lauren too.”
“Just jumping to Whitney's defense here about the BIB, Whitney has only slept with actual boyfriends (if you don't count the rapes) she was in a relationship with whereas Lucy slept around quite a bit. Lauren too.”
I don't get the hate on this forum toward characters that sleep around. No one in EE sleeps around as much as most people I know IRL, including myself. Yes, Whitney has cheated on a few people but she is still young and has had terrible experiences in her early life, and it's not like she was married to or had kids with any of them. As for Lauren and Lucy, neither of them has been in particularly long term or serious relationships, so why should they not have slept around a bit? Yes, Lauren should not have had the affair with Jake but when it started she didn't know he was married, and by the time she found out she already had feelings for him. Again, she is still very young, and she eventually realised her mistake, took responsibility and tried to make it right but it was too late. Some people on here are extremely puritanical!
Originally Posted by perpet83:
“I don't get the hate on this forum toward characters that sleep around. No one in EE sleeps around as much as most people I know IRL, including myself. Yes, Whitney has cheated on a few people but she is still young and has had terrible experiences in her early life, and it's not like she was married to or had kids with any of them. As for Lauren and Lucy, neither of them has been in particularly long term or serious relationships, so why should they not have slept around a bit? Yes, Lauren should not have had the affair
with Jake but when it started she didn't know he was married, and by the time she found out she already had feelings for him. Again, she is still very young, and she eventually realised her mistake, took responsibility and tried to make it right but it was too late. Some people on here are extremely puritanical!”
“I don't get the hate on this forum toward characters that sleep around. No one in EE sleeps around as much as most people I know IRL, including myself. Yes, Whitney has cheated on a few people but she is still young and has had terrible experiences in her early life, and it's not like she was married to or had kids with any of them. As for Lauren and Lucy, neither of them has been in particularly long term or serious relationships, so why should they not have slept around a bit? Yes, Lauren should not have had the affair
with Jake but when it started she didn't know he was married, and by the time she found out she already had feelings for him. Again, she is still very young, and she eventually realised her mistake, took responsibility and tried to make it right but it was too late. Some people on here are extremely puritanical!”
OK Your experience should be everybodies should it? And people on here are just plain nasty? And people on here don't and won't understand because they haven't had your experience?
So Many of you on the forum of late, so bloody tired of it.
I wish you well in life, I wish you healed.
Now can we carry on chatting about fictional characters on a soap please.
Originally Posted by perpet83:
“I don't get the hate on this forum toward characters that sleep around. No one in EE sleeps around as much as most people I know IRL, including myself. Yes, Whitney has cheated on a few people but she is still young and has had terrible experiences in her early life, and it's not like she was married to or had kids with any of them. As for Lauren and Lucy, neither of them has been in particularly long term or serious relationships, so why should they not have slept around a bit? Yes, Lauren should not have had the affair with Jake but when it started she didn't know he was married, and by the time she found out she already had feelings for him. Again, she is still very young, and she eventually realised her mistake, took responsibility and tried to make it right but it was too late. Some people on here are extremely puritanical!”
“I don't get the hate on this forum toward characters that sleep around. No one in EE sleeps around as much as most people I know IRL, including myself. Yes, Whitney has cheated on a few people but she is still young and has had terrible experiences in her early life, and it's not like she was married to or had kids with any of them. As for Lauren and Lucy, neither of them has been in particularly long term or serious relationships, so why should they not have slept around a bit? Yes, Lauren should not have had the affair with Jake but when it started she didn't know he was married, and by the time she found out she already had feelings for him. Again, she is still very young, and she eventually realised her mistake, took responsibility and tried to make it right but it was too late. Some people on here are extremely puritanical!”
Puritanical, I had too Google that, see theses forums are useful for my vocabulary
I don't think people necessarily have strong morals, it's just Whitney's had a lot more partners on screen, most of her storylines have been man related, I think people look at her in a stereotypical way cause of it.
Originally Posted by MrsCloumbo:
“OK Your experience should be everybodies should it? And people on here are just plain nasty? And people on here don't and won't understand because they haven't had your experience?
So Many of you on the forum of late, so bloody tired of it.
I wish you well in life, I wish you healed.
Now can we carry on chatting about fictional characters on a soap please.”
“OK Your experience should be everybodies should it? And people on here are just plain nasty? And people on here don't and won't understand because they haven't had your experience?
So Many of you on the forum of late, so bloody tired of it.
I wish you well in life, I wish you healed.
Now can we carry on chatting about fictional characters on a soap please.”
Ummm...I never said anything like that. I WAS talking about the fictional characters on a soap. I said
a) None of the characters in Eastenders are THAT promiscuous, numbers-wise. Mainly because for the most part they have to find their partners among a fairly limited pool of cast members.
b) Of the three being discussed, all were young and none had been married or had children, so shouldn't be judged so very harshly for sleeping around or cheating. Lauren slept with a married man but she wasn't the one who was attached and therefore did the cheating, and she was still only a teenager at the time, and a recovering alcoholic with a terrible home life to boot. Whitney did cheat, but although she was engaged to Tyler it was an ill-advised engagement she entered into as a damaged and confused teenager. Lucy got around a bit but I don't remember her ever being in a very serious relationship, so she could sleep with whoever she wanted. None of these scenarios make them morally equivalent to Max, Den or Kat, who betrayed long-term spouses they had been with for many years and with whom they had children who were affected by their infidelities.
And thank you but I have no need to heal. I sleep around because I enjoy doing so when I am single and am not currently at a point in my life where I want to make any commitments. Not everyone who sleeps around is damaged and needs 'healing.' Most just enjoy sex and don't want to be tied down.
I never said everyone should have my experience, or that no one else could understand. I simply said that people were making nasty comments about characters who are more sexually liberated, and when those characters are female the criticisms are often misogynistic. I know we are talking about fictional characters, but if people made racist or homophobic comments about characters, I would assume that those reflected their real-life attitudes, so why should this be any different. I hate seeing women referred to as slags, sluts and whores and in the case of these three characters I don't even understand where it comes from. And yes, I understand that characters such as Max and Jack also get a lot of stick for their promiscuity, but their behaviour is far worse and the language used about them does not tend to be as derogatory or vicious.
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“Puritanical, I had too Google that, see theses forums are useful for my vocabulary
I don't think people necessarily have strong morals, it's just Whitney's had a lot more partners on screen, most of her storylines have been man related, I think people look at her in a stereotypical way cause of it.”
“Puritanical, I had too Google that, see theses forums are useful for my vocabulary
I don't think people necessarily have strong morals, it's just Whitney's had a lot more partners on screen, most of her storylines have been man related, I think people look at her in a stereotypical way cause of it.”
Female characters are referred to as sluts, slags, whores, strumpets etc on this forum all the time. Apart from her abusers, the partners Whitney has had that I can think of have been; Todd, Peter, Billie, Connor, Fatboy, Tyler, Joey. I may have missed some out but that only makes seven. It's not even double figures. And while most of her storylines have been man related, she is also the only young female character who has known what she wanted to do with her life and has been on a sound and consistent career path ever since she left school.
Originally Posted by karl93:
“Cause lucy has class, style, a career and men drooling over her, Whitney has nothing”
“Cause lucy has class, style, a career and men drooling over her, Whitney has nothing”
Don't be so cruel.
Whitney has chlamydia.
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“Don't be so cruel.
Whitney has chlamydia.”
“Don't be so cruel.
Whitney has chlamydia.”
Lol
.She deserves a Lifetime Achievement award for that!
Originally Posted by SoapBaby:
“Just jumping to Whitney's defense here about the BIB, Whitney has only slept with actual boyfriends (if you don't count the rapes) she was in a relationship with whereas Lucy slept around quite a bit. Lauren too.”
“Just jumping to Whitney's defense here about the BIB, Whitney has only slept with actual boyfriends (if you don't count the rapes) she was in a relationship with whereas Lucy slept around quite a bit. Lauren too.”
I was more referring to Whitney's history with STDs than her number of sexual partners to be honest
. Anyway, I was just kidding around 
.
Originally Posted by makingapoint:
“I always imagined that Lucy was jealous of Whitney as her friendship with Lauren seemed strained at times. People always assume Lucy and Lauren were best friends for a long time when in fact, it was only Lauren's crush on Peter that brought them close at times. After Whitney's arrival, Whitney and Lauren were friends and more so than Lucy and Lauren. Lucy was just plain nasty and held a grudge to everyone. She used Lauren as a way, in these recent months to get closer to Max and for the money.”
“I always imagined that Lucy was jealous of Whitney as her friendship with Lauren seemed strained at times. People always assume Lucy and Lauren were best friends for a long time when in fact, it was only Lauren's crush on Peter that brought them close at times. After Whitney's arrival, Whitney and Lauren were friends and more so than Lucy and Lauren. Lucy was just plain nasty and held a grudge to everyone. She used Lauren as a way, in these recent months to get closer to Max and for the money.”
I agree.
Originally Posted by MrsCloumbo:
“Whitney always looks grubby and unkempt, like she needs a bloody good scrub in the shower.
She was always jealous of the cool and lovely Lucy.
Whitney is just plain, rotten and nasty.”
“Whitney always looks grubby and unkempt, like she needs a bloody good scrub in the shower.
She was always jealous of the cool and lovely Lucy.
Whitney is just plain, rotten and nasty.”
I would happily rub Whitney down with my loofah.
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“I would happily rub Whitney down with my loofah.”
“I would happily rub Whitney down with my loofah.
”
Philth will get there before you
.
Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin:
“Philth will get there before you.”
“Philth will get there before you
.”
He will shag her in the arches like that 'romantic' scene with poor Dawn.
That was undoubtedly one of the most repulsive things EE has ever done.
Originally Posted by Sara Webb:
“Alternatively, Lucy was a nasty, spiteful little bully. I don't think Lucy sending Whitney bitchy texts disguised as "advice" regarding her appearance had anything to do with the above. Also, Lucy was a total cow to Whitney when she was played by Melissa Suffield, long before the abuse by Tony was public knowledge. She was bullying her about her looks back then.
Lucy was a nasty piece of work, a combination of the worst qualities of both her parents. Apart from her ambition and determination to succeed, which are admirable qualities, I found her an unlikeable, obnoxious, self obsessed brat who has been a bully since her early teens.”
“Alternatively, Lucy was a nasty, spiteful little bully. I don't think Lucy sending Whitney bitchy texts disguised as "advice" regarding her appearance had anything to do with the above. Also, Lucy was a total cow to Whitney when she was played by Melissa Suffield, long before the abuse by Tony was public knowledge. She was bullying her about her looks back then.
Lucy was a nasty piece of work, a combination of the worst qualities of both her parents. Apart from her ambition and determination to succeed, which are admirable qualities, I found her an unlikeable, obnoxious, self obsessed brat who has been a bully since her early teens.”
Well said!!!!
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“He will shag her in the arches like that 'romantic' scene with poor Dawn.
That was undoubtedly one of the most repulsive things EE has ever done.”
“He will shag her in the arches like that 'romantic' scene with poor Dawn.
That was undoubtedly one of the most repulsive things EE has ever done.
”
Agreed. But nothing beats the horror of watching Philth munching on Mel Healy's face on a wall
. I lost my innocence after watching that . Just what on earth were the producers thinking airing such distressing scenes before the watershed? 
Originally Posted by karl93:
“Cause lucy has class, style, a career and men drooling over her, Whitney has nothing”
“Cause lucy has class, style, a career and men drooling over her, Whitney has nothing”
Being a self righteous stuck up snob is not acting with class, Lucy has never acted with anything even remotely resembling class.
A career? Well in the last month of her life she opened a business... where as Whitney has been developing her career in childcare for years.
Men drooling over her? Danny used her for money... Joey..used her to cover his feelings for Lauren..... Max would do anything to any female and Lee Carter didn't see to picky and any other guy she has gone after has always been some one else's man that she attempted to steal as she was so twisted and bitter she literally couldn't stand people being happy...
Whitney on the other hand has had many guys who have genuinely loved and cared for her..
Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin:
“Agreed. But nothing beats the horror of watching Philth munching on Mel Healy's face on a wall. I lost my innocence after watching that .”
“Agreed. But nothing beats the horror of watching Philth munching on Mel Healy's face on a wall
. I lost my innocence after watching that .”
Kathy, Mel, Dawn, Kate, Lisa, Suzy, Glenda, I can really see just how attractive Philth was to those stunners.
Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin:
“Agreed. But nothing beats the horror of watching Philth munching on Mel Healy's face on a wall. I lost my innocence after watching that . Just what on earth were the producers thinking airing such distressing scenes before the watershed? ”
“Agreed. But nothing beats the horror of watching Philth munching on Mel Healy's face on a wall
. I lost my innocence after watching that . Just what on earth were the producers thinking airing such distressing scenes before the watershed? ”
And on a holy day too
Originally Posted by Lady Voldemort:
“And on a holy day too”
“And on a holy day too
”
Mel.
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Philth.
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Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Kathy, Mel, Dawn, Kate, Lisa, Suzy, Glenda, I can really see just how attractive Philth was to those stunners.”
“Kathy, Mel, Dawn, Kate, Lisa, Suzy, Glenda, I can really see just how attractive Philth was to those stunners.
”
In the EastEnders universe, balding old men like Philth, Grant and Max are perceived by women as the sexiest men going
. They're like the Brad Pitts and George Clooneys of the world . Dirty Den also got his fair share of sexy women too in his second stint, which was beyond ridiculous given his age .
Originally Posted by T.K. Mazin:
“In the EastEnders universe, balding old men like Philth, Grant and Max are perceived by women as the sexiest men going. They're like the Brad Pitts and George Clooneys of the world . Dirty Den also got his fair share of sexy women too in his second stint, which was beyond ridiculous given his age .”
“In the EastEnders universe, balding old men like Philth, Grant and Max are perceived by women as the sexiest men going
. They're like the Brad Pitts and George Clooneys of the world . Dirty Den also got his fair share of sexy women too in his second stint, which was beyond ridiculous given his age .”
It's not even his looks, it's the fact he is a brutal thug who likes to bully and abuse people.
Philth really has a sparkling warm personality to attract the ladies doesn't he?
But one grunt and the women's knickers just fly off!
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