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anyone feeling more sorry for Tina than for Lucy (CS & EE)
Now I know we shouldn't compare but when storylines are essentially running side by side it's hard not too.
But I feel much much more sorry for Tina & her situation that I do for Lucy. Maybe it's because despite the affair Tina was general a moral and upstanding young woman. Lucy was quite horrible over both stints. Maybe, for me, it's a class thing. There is a pull towards me for Tina because she, like myself, was working class so I could/can identify with her struggles much more. Maybe it's because we got see her tragic ending, first being pushed then being hit over the head with a metal pole. With Lucy we still don't know and it could have been anything, we know she had a drug habit so who is to say it wasn't more to do with that? Maybe it's because Tina didn't have any family, she's leaving this (soap) life a bit of a lone wolf and had her whole life ahead of her to really put down roots. Lucy had many friends and family who cared for her dearly. I'm not saying that Lucy's is not tragic, of course it is, but the amount of emotion I have had watching the last 3 Corrie episodes over Lucy's last week on EE is a bit overwhelming, even by my standards. and before anyone speaks up, I get that the Lucy storyline is more to do with the aftermath however aren't all murder stories essentially about that? Name me a storyline in soap where the murder is the focus with two hoots not giving about the aftermath of the death and the circumstances. What's interesting to me as well is that the soap that I primarily watch is ED which has also had the death of a young woman featured and yet there is no sympathy from me what so ever. (Maybe it's because Gemma was physically a teenage but mentally was about 90 and has thus lived her life I know the daily's will like that one.)and, again, before anyone has a go this isn't a thread about soap wars ( I have brought them all into after all and been hardly glowing about my own choice of soap) I just want to know if others feel the same way and I just find it an interesting thread to create after much chat from both EP on their storyline and the plus points. over to you.... |
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I'm glad both of them have gone
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Tina....
She was a great character.... she wasn't over Tommy before Peter and he kind of toke advantage, she was young, wanted to be love. I also think she saw part of her dad in peter with the addiction ect and yes she was gobby but she had it tough. she was still kind and caring under it all. |
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I feel like Tina was a moron and was daring Rob to kill her, she thinks she's untouchable but I did feel a twinge of sympathy for her when she said she's got her life ahead of her. Lucy though, it looks like her life was stolen from her and (right now) we don't know why? They were both young girls who were deeply unhappy, but it's seeing the impact on Lucy's family and the way that the aftermath was handled (seeing the girl find her and the police forensics) that made me feel more for Lucy's storyline. Tina thought she could intimidate Rob with her threats and that she was strong enough to beat him and beat everyone, in the end that was her downfall. She would have been fine if she had just played it safe.
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Well it's a difficult question because we still don't actually know the circumstances around Lucy's death, how or why she was killed and by who.
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I think a lot of people feel the same way. Like people have said, they are both different situations, maybe if we had seen Lucys death, we might feel a bit more sympathetic but as it stands, we know next to nothing other than the fact she was murdered. I don't even think we know how she died?
Plus there is the fact that of both of the girls, Tina was much much much more prominent in her show. Tina has been apart of some of the biggest stories in the past few years, Lucy, not so much. Actually, it was only up until a few weeks before her death that people on here started to like Lucy because she was being used so much so that probably factors into how much you feel about their respective deaths. Of the two though, I think Lucys death (or aftermath) will be more memorable due to the fact she has loads of family and friends on the square (including Ian who has been on the show forever) while Tina was pretty secluded. I kinda like the fact that throughout her tenure on the show, Tina was generally pretty likable up until she had the affair with Peter while Lucy was generally a hated character up until she got her moment in the sun. Kinda reverse situations there. |
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Yeah, I feel awful about Tina, it's so tragic and more dramatic unlike Lucy's death.
That's mainly because Tina's death had a bigger build up |
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No use asking me - I'm still in deep mourning for ED's poor lovely Gennie, cruelly murdered by HotWetMurderingJerseyScumBoy.
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No use asking me - I'm still in deep mourning for ED's poor lovely Gennie, cruelly murdered by HotWetMurderingJerseyScumBoy.
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i felt sorry for tina as she has no one, lucy was abit evil and she had familyi know tina was gobby and hypocrite at times but i still felt for her
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Couldn't give a crap about Lucy, and I think it's mostly because of the re-cast. Unavoidable, but still.
Michelle was the only one who played Tina, so for me it feels more "real". |
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I don't think it is possible to compare as we don't know enough about the circumstances and events that lead up to Lucy's death - ie we don't know if she was a complete victim in it or whether she did something to make the killer believe they had no choice but to get rid of her - which you could argue on those final hours Tina did.
That's not excusing murder by the way, there is never any excuse for it but Rina just couldn't stop making threats andd being uncaring of how her actions would hurt others (Carla and Simon primarily) so I can understand how it got to the point that Rob saw it as her or him and the people he loved. We don't, as I said earlier, know what caused Lucy's - until we do I can't say which I feel more sympathy for. |
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i felt sorry for tina as she has no one, lucy was abit evil and she had familyi know tina was gobby and hypocrite at times but i still felt for her
![]() Lucy never had a choice about her Mum leaving her with her 2 brothers, then dying, Steven going to NZ to live and then going nuts, 2 of her Grans (real and surrogate) dying, Ian installing a revolving door for stepmother then having a breakdown. Yes she could be a little madam but I wouldn't say she had a hugely supportive, loving, peaceful family around her. |
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no not really, never cared for Tina.
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I don't miss Lucy but I will miss Tina. I empathised more with Tina than Lucy.
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Lucy died just as she began to mature. She had begun her own business, which was running well, working well with her best friend again and ended an unhealthy relationship with Max in favour of a normal relationship with Lee.
Tina died as she was about to leave anyway. She insulted Rita (who has been absolutely wonderful to Tina), betrayed Carla and was still, to the very end, trying to run away with a married man. She was also about to accuse a man of attempted murder, when her falling off the balcony was definitely not attempted murder by Rob. So even though Lucy had been unlikeable in the past, she was maturing and had her whole life ahead of her. Tina died very unlikeable, goading Rob until the very end. She didn't really have much left - she didn't have a family, Tommy, Rita or Peter. Lucy had a lot more potential, whereas Tina admitted herself that there was nothing for her in Weatherfield. I think Lucy's was more tragic as she had a lot more to live for. |
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I've thought about this some more and would have to say that I feel more sorry for and about Lucy (even without knowing the full story) as i've known her since she was a baby, have seen her grow up and understand they she sometimes wasn't that nice. Tina always felt more transient to me and whilst some might admire her for being strong, i'm afraid I don't have much time for people that are just 'born gobby'. I also agree with the poster above that Lucy was beginning to grow up (pending more reveals about what she was upto off screen) whereas if anything Tina had regressed over the last year or so. Her actions and attitudes in this last week in particular (describing her and Poeter leaving together as a 'happy' ending, not caring about Carla and Simon, abusing Rita the way she did, saying she knew the fall was an accident but would say it wasn't, wanting to ruin Carla -and again Simon's lives - by telling all because 'why should she be the only one hurt') just a really rather horrible, selfish person - hurt feelings or not.
Of course she still didn't desrve to be murdered (nobody does) but if we are comparing the two?! |
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I don't agree. Just because someone was "nasty" doesn't mean they deserve to die. And from what I've seen of Tina, she wasn't exactly a saint herself either.
We know why Tina died, but we don't know anything concrete about Lucy's death at all, and that's what makes it so tragic. She could have died knowing that her family may never discover her killer, on top of dying all alone, I think that was a horrible way to go for such a young girl. |
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1000% more sorry for Tina and a simple reason too.....
Tina was nice (she just lost her way with Peter) - on the whole she was decent Whereas Lucy was just a smothering, sneaky, greedy, sly bitch! |
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Lucy died just as she began to mature. She had begun her own business, which was running well, working well with her best friend again and ended an unhealthy relationship with Max in favour of a normal relationship with Lee.
Tina died as she was about to leave anyway. She insulted Rita (who has been absolutely wonderful to Tina), betrayed Carla and was still, to the very end, trying to run away with a married man. She was also about to accuse a man of attempted murder, when her falling off the balcony was definitely not attempted murder by Rob. So even though Lucy had been unlikeable in the past, she was maturing and had her whole life ahead of her. Tina died very unlikeable, goading Rob until the very end. She didn't really have much left - she didn't have a family, Tommy, Rita or Peter. Lucy had a lot more potential, whereas Tina admitted herself that there was nothing for her in Weatherfield. I think Lucy's was more tragic as she had a lot more to live for. |
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