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Eastenders - Patsy Palmer's Hollywood Makeover
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Mormon Girl
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“I don't hope anything tbh, I don't know her.”

But you can still wish her good luck on here. Even though I don't know her I hope she manages to do well in Holloywood or whatever acting thing she does.
Mormon Girl
02-06-2014
Why are people being mean about Patsy and wanting her to fail?
Evilredzebra
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“The irony of someone bitching and moaning about bitching and moaning.

Inception indeed.”

I think you missed the point of my post. The amount of hatred people seem to hold towards actors they have never met never fails to astound me.
Hildaonpluto
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“They haven't indulged her in anything. She was forced into early leave in 2010 because of complications with her pregnancy which saw her son born early. Patsy then had to take extended leave following a miscarriage. I mean how insensitive can people be on here!

Any other breaks Patsy has taken from the show were her own holidays that the BBC grants every actor on the soap with. Patsy just took her break in one go in the summer. All this ''Patsy gets special treatment'' talk is typical DS myth.

Patsy was fifth in most episode appearances for 2013 and is joint fourth in most appearances for 2014. Is that a sign of someone who is never at EE!

Most of these comments are nasty. I don't know why people just love to watch others fail. I think it says more about the people making these remarks than it does Patsy.

I say good luck to her. Its always nice to see someone want to succeed in their life and have ambitions.”

DS Myths_Theres so many of them like the claim its virtually numerically impossible for Hollyoaks to win Best Soap at the BSA!

I dont believe her big stretches of time off were related to her miscarriage,especially as Kierston Wareing had a miscarriage while IN CONTRACT and onset but wasnt given lots of time off.To be fair I dont think even Patsy haa claimed she was given many months "off" because of her miscarriage its just people on here playing the emotive card as a short cut tactic in a discussion.People do not get many months of work for miscarriages in any line of work.Its not standard at all and it doesnt happen.Patsy was out of contract I think when she had her miscarriage so Im not sure anything was extended at all to accomodate this.
A couple of weeks of maybe and thats understandable but not much more I doubt she was given for that.
To try and make out people arent symphathetic to a miscarriage is cheap and insulting to many people personal circumstances.
Patsy choose to go out of contract after her maternity leave.She admitted as much on the Piers Morgan show.An interview in which she alluded to a potential other offer of work to EastEnders-an interview I think in which she was openly playing games with tptb in negotiations .Id have liked her return for Pats funeral to have been a brief stint and her last stint.
Of course I want her to succeed in Hollywood as that means theres less chance she will return to cooking chicken nuggets in Albert Square!
absalomabsalom
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by CelticMyth:
“She does a really good job of playing Ygritte in Game of Thrones. No wonder Hollywood is knocking on her door.”


Ha! Thought it was just me. Expect her to shout "you dunt nu nuthin" at whoever she's in a scene with
J-B
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by Mormon Girl:
“But you can still wish her good luck on here. Even though I don't know her I hope she manages to do well in Holloywood or whatever acting thing she does.”

I don't wish her good luck I don't wish her anything, good nor bad, as I don't know the woman. All I wish is that she'd leave Eastenders.
vald
02-06-2014
I think it is time that Bianca left, her character has become tired. Patsy is great at the quietly dramatic s/ls, but she is rarely given any decent material. She has always made it clear that her family come first, and this will give her children a wonderful experience, so kudos to her.
Hit Em Up Style
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“DS Myths_Theres so many of them like the claim its virtually numerically impossible for Hollyoaks to win Best Soap at the BSA!

I dont believe her big stretches of time off were related to her miscarriage,especially as Kierston Wareing had a miscarriage while IN CONTRACT and onset but wasnt given lots of time off.To be fair I dont think even Patsy haa claimed she was given many months "off" because of her miscarriage its just people on here playing the emotive card as a short cut tactic in a discussion.People do not get many months of work for miscarriages in any line of work.Its not standard at all and it doesnt happen.Patsy was out of contract I think when she had her miscarriage so Im not sure anything was extended at all to accomodate this.
A couple of weeks of maybe and thats understandable but not much more I doubt she was given for that.
To try and make out people arent symphathetic to a miscarriage is cheap and insulting to many people personal circumstances.
Patsy choose to go out of contract after her maternity leave.She admitted as much on the Piers Morgan show.An interview in which she alluded to a potential other offer of work to EastEnders-an interview I think in which she was openly playing games with tptb in negotiations .Id have liked her return for Pats funeral to have been a brief stint and her last stint.
Of course I want her to succeed in Hollywood as that means theres less chance she will return to cooking chicken nuggets in Albert Square!”

I never claimed it was numerically impossible for Hollyoaks to win best soap. I claimed it was impossible for it to have won without multiple votes if 3 million votes had been cast for best soap. You were the one who made that into a big thing creating thread after thread on the subject just for my benefit. That has no baring on this topic.

Patsy's first break from EE in 2010 happened earlier than planned (two weeks to be exact) because her unborn baby was ill and was born premature. That isn't the tptb indulging her. After her miscarriage Patsy slipped into depression. Her comments about ''maybe not returning'' as she only wanted to be at home with her kids were because of her depression. She was ill at the time. This was two months before her planned return. All this was from her own mouth and can be found by any Google search. Other than these two breaks from EE (late 2010 and 2011 respectfully) she hasn't had any time off that other actors haven't had. So again this isn't her bosses indulging her. Holidays form part of everyone's contract who is in employment and every regular cast member at EE gets the same amount of holidays per year. This if you want proof this is in the BBC Trust's report into BBC Continuing Drama. And as for the US offer. She was approached by an America director who screen tested her for a drama. As she was on leave from EE why shouldn't have gone for it? Patsy always said she would return to EE once the time was right and she lived up to her promise by returning in late 2011.

Like I said. Patsy is the fourth most appeared EE actor this year and was the fifth most appeared in 2013. Hardly a sign of someone who is always off on breaks. You can't really argue with the episode stats.

If you have inside goss that they bent over backwards just to please and in your words ''indulge'' Patsy and constantly give her time off then do share the info instead of just posting your opinion on that you think happened.

I will always defend Patsy on DS as I think she gets a rough deal on here. Letitia Dean must only be on a semi recurring contract at EE going off how little she appears yet you never hear people saying the show is indulging her.
Hildaonpluto
02-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“I never claimed it was numerically impossible for Hollyoaks to win best soap. I claimed it was impossible for it to have won without multiple votes if 3 million votes had been cast for best soap. You were the one who made that into a big thing creating thread after thread on the subject just for my benefit. That has no baring on this topic.

Patsy's first break from EE in 2010 happened earlier than planned (two weeks to be exact) because her unborn baby was ill and was born premature. That isn't the tptb indulging her. After her miscarriage Patsy slipped into depression. Her comments about ''maybe not returning'' as she only wanted to be at home with her kids were because of her depression. She was ill at the time. This was two months before her planned return. All this was from her own mouth and can be found by any Google search. Other than these two breaks from EE (late 2010 and 2011 respectfully) she hasn't had any time off that other actors haven't had. So again this isn't her bosses indulging her. Holidays form part of everyone's contract who is in employment and every regular cast member at EE gets the same amount of holidays per year. This if you want proof this is in the BBC Trust's report into BBC Continuing Drama. And as for the US offer. She was approached by an America director who screen tested her for a drama. As she was on leave from EE why shouldn't have gone for it? Patsy always said she would return to EE once the time was right and she lived up to her promise by returning in late 2011.

Like I said. Patsy is the fourth most appeared EE actor this year and was the fifth most appeared in 2013. Hardly a sign of someone who is always off on breaks. You can't really argue with the episode stats.

If you have inside goss that they bent over backwards just to please and in your words ''indulge'' Patsy and constantly give her time off then do share the info instead of just posting your opinion on that you think happened.

I will always defend Patsy on DS as I think she gets a rough deal on here. Letitia Dean must only be on a semi recurring contract at EE going off how little she appears yet you never hear people saying the show is indulging her.”

If 3 million people voted as claimed by you IF I think youll find you posted far more on the subject than me and I assure you no thread was started by me with you specifically in mind.

Indulge and bent over backwards are not quite the same thing.You might want to dictionary check the meaning of the word indulge.

As for depression as someone whos had personal experience of this all I can say is I dont understand how Patsy could have negotiated a 6 month onscreen break from feb/march 2012 onwards if that was the case.Depression is a very volatile and unpredictable illness and theres no way anyone could negotiate and say with confidence Im not well enough to work fully atm but 6 months from now I will be able to return to work and it will be ok.Depression doesnt work like that and Patsy wouldnt have been in a position to give that assurance.But then I cant find anything online were Patsy has said her 6 month break was because of depression,its only you saying that.

As for the american offer,you say Patsy said shed return to EastEnders when the time was right.I think you mean shed return when her other offers fell through because going by the timing its obvious thats what happened!

Given the number of times Patsy did djing work,gave magazine interviews,attended celeb bashes ,red carpet events and partied in Ibiza for extended periods with Sid Owen during her 6 month break then I suggest gently to you that I think your mistaken in implying her 6 month break was because of depression and being unable to take on duties as a result.

I think the indulgence mainly comes in the form of Bianca being seen as a character whos legendary and whod theyd always have back.I think a Bianca murder storyline would have been much braver than murdering Lucy Beale while shes played by a poor actress.

As for Letitia Dean shes been anything but indulged since 2012.


PS Under no circumstances did I ever imply maternity leave was an indulgence or part of what I was refering too.I specifically mentioned she let her maternity leave lapse into being out of contract later on.
Evilredzebra
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
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I think the indulgence mainly comes in the form of Bianca being seen as a character whos legendary and whod theyd always have back.I think a Bianca murder storyline would have been much braver than murdering Lucy Beale while shes played by a poor actress.

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This would have been so much better. Love her or hate her Bianca is a massive character and killing her off would have had far more impact than suddenly developing a personality for someone who until now has been nothing more than a bland background character. I still think the whole storyline was devised to dispose of a weak actress.
Joe_Zel
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by Evilredzebra:
“I think you missed the point of my post. The amount of hatred people seem to hold towards actors they have never met never fails to astound me.”

I don't think anyone hates her, they're just taking the piss and messing about. Most of the forum is like that.
Hildaonpluto
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by Evilredzebra:
“This would have been so much better. Love her or hate her Bianca is a massive character and killing her off would have had far more impact than suddenly developing a personality for someone who until now has been nothing more than a bland background character. I still think the whole storyline was devised to dispose of a weak actress.”

Theres little doubt in my mind that if the casting of Lucy had been gotten right then Lucy wouldnt have died.
Joe_Zel
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Theres little doubt in my mind that if the casting of Lucy had been gotten right then Lucy wouldnt have died.”

I doubt it. Otherwise he'd have simply written her off and then maybe reintroduced her in 12 months played by somebody he approves of.

Killing the character because he doesn't like the actress is very petty. But it seems he's thought of killing her because he wants the Beale's at the centre of a big story that runs through to the anniversary.

Killing Lucy gives the Beale's the focus, kills off a member of a central family for the 30th and provides a sprawling story that will no doubt involve most of the cast in various ways over the next 8 months.
Hildaonpluto
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“I doubt it. Otherwise he'd have simply written her off and then maybe reintroduced her in 12 months played by somebody he approves of.

Killing the character because he doesn't like the actress is very petty. But it seems he's thought of killing her because he wants the Beale's at the centre of a big story that runs through to the anniversary.

Killing Lucy gives the Beale's the focus, kills off a member of a central family for the 30th and provides a sprawling story that will no doubt involve most of the cast in various ways over the next 8 months.”

Im not persuaded.I think their conscious that too many recasts is damaging and theyve spent wisely that credibility capital on recasting Ben Mitchell.
CherryRose
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...#ixzz33PriRl4d

Getting ready for Hollywood.”

I really hope it works out for her so she doesn't come back to Eastenders
Joe_Zel
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Im not persuaded.I think their conscious that too many recasts is damaging and theyve spent wisely that credibility capital on recasting Ben Mitchell.”

I think Lucy had more potential as a future character than Ben.

Killing Heather and Kathy off for him killed him for me.

But I do not think for one minute she was killed because of Hetti's performance. The change in character came a lot from the writing.
SellSimilar
04-06-2014
Well, there have been less likely breakthroughs. Look at Jeff Stewart's recent career - from being sacked as Reg Hollis in The Bill due to personal problems (and after a suicide attempt), he's now an award-winning actor with a much-raised profile. He won Best Actor at the Manhatten Film Festival and has a lot of other stuff in production.

Good luck to her. But it's a shame she took so much time off, as it means we don't ever expect to see her for long so don't invest in Bianca as a character.
Joe_Zel
04-06-2014
I thought Jeff Stewart had died. Oops.
Sunset Dale
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“I thought Jeff Stewart had died. Oops.”

Didn't know he had gone any further than the Bill.
Good luck to Patsy be she needs to be realistic. No harm in trying though.
Soap-Fan
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Mormon Girl:
“But Patsy has said she is not anything like Bianca in real life.”

I don't know her, but from what I saw of her in celebrity apprentice she seemed very much like Bianca.
sas6789
04-06-2014
Nathalie Emmanuel, Emma Rigby, Roxanne McKee, Barry Sloane and Rob Kazinsky have done stuff in America recently so why can't she?
Joe_Zel
04-06-2014
Nathalie Emmanuel, the most wooden so called actress to ever grace the screen.

If she can do it, Patsy can.
Hildaonpluto
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“Nathalie Emmanuel, the most wooden so called actress to ever grace the screen.

If she can do it, Patsy can.”

Realistically ageism is a problem.
Joe_Zel
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Realistically ageism is a problem.”

All kinds of things are a problem, but if they hire a talentless girl to "act" they can hire Patsy to play "Granny".
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