From the bits of coverage I've seen, and everything I've read on here, it's the other way round for me, BBC aren't as bad as some say and ITV aren't as great as some say. That's just going off the comments in here though, not on twitter, I have better things to do than search twitter for football tweets.

One thing I'm finding funny though, is that despite (rightly) calling out Samuel when searching twitter for criticism they're more than happy to do it themselves when it works in their favour.

Burn

I would say Vieira is equal to them. But their coverage misses Keane.

I think BBC and ITV are decent. Bits of both aren't great, but neither are really bad or unwatchable. Not to me anyway.

BBC winning World Cup ratings war so far after day 5 - average shares:

BBC1 - 40pct [35pct excl England]
Itv - 31pct

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned on the thread but Chanel 5 have done a late schedule change for Friday - Big Brother's main show and the eviction interview have been combined to one show and Bit on the Side will follow with Stand By Your Man at 11.30pm rather than in a Big Brother sandwich.

There are not many on here to suggest ITV's coverage is better than the BBC's.


I suppose those who search for positive comments on Twitter wouldn't do it if he didn't pull out all the negative he can find and post it on here.

Sensible move after the dating show crashed and burned last Friday.

1. Really? I've seen more criticism of BBC's coverage on this thread than of ITV's. (Personally I see nothing wrong with either's coverage, but then I've seen rather little of it since it's only on in the background when there's nothing else on.)

2. They aren't just searching for positive comments though, they're pointing out whenever BBC is criticised, just like Samuel does for ITV. For as much as people criticise Samuel, a lot try to emulate him as well. "Well, Samuel does it, so I do too." Why can't people just be the bigger person isn't of being hypocrites, that's what brings down the thread, not the one poster.

Phil Neville got hammered on his first outing, so much so it generated a story on the BBC news website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27867939

Prove me wrong.

Pearce got slated for his commentary about the France goal.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...y-9540780.html

Prove me wrong.

Never said Clarke Carlisle and Andy Townsend didn't get criticised. I said that some BBC people got slated just like they did. Nobody likes Clarke Carlisle on commentary apart from his family.

I dont particularly like Chiles but the coverage of both sides has been perfectly adequate and criticisms and twitter scrutiny are mainly based on bias.

And even they are not so sure !!!

Bits of ITV's coverage sucks but it's not all bad, likewise with the BBC. The BBC's has a bit more polish but I can watch both.

Both channels have had elements that were slated by some people in the media and social media.

Nail on the head.

They must have special earplugs.

Henry is probably the only bright spot in terms of World Cup broadcasting (and that owes a lot to the fact he is effortlessly suave). Neither BBC or ITV are covering themselves in glory, it's all quite average with moments of bad (Phil Neville...). It's certainly making Sky look great.

Not that it matters much - it's what happens on the pitch that determines audience interest. Although things do seem to have slowed down a bit this week after a great opening weekend.


Yes, a fabulous plan to get low ratings, no guests and lose the support of Sony Music. Fortunately the BBC don't have the same one track mind you seem to possess!

PS: Maybe they should ask FIFA if they'd move the World Cup to November to try and kill off I'm A Celebrity?

I really agree with that - posters doing exactly the same as Samuel but then immediately having a go at him for doing it.

Hypocrisy? On this thread? Get outta here!

BBC v ITV is becoming a bigger battle on here than any of the football games going in Brazil.

And yet I'm not surprised in the slightest. I bet the broadcasters don't care this much!

Big names aren't always big personalities. There is dullness in both BBC/ITV World Cup panels. And it doesn't matter as viewers go where the football is.

Flicking through the TV Guide for next week and 4 seem to have bagged The Hunger Games premier for Saturday ... always assumed this would end up on 5? What is going on with the film rights these days?!

Looking through the footie fixtures, if England manage to qualify from our group D, which is still looking a fairly reasonable prospect (slightly better than 50/50 Betfair odds); then whether we came 1st or 2nd, we'd face a team from the weak group C consisting of Columbia, Greece, Japan, Ivory Coast. We'd be odds on to beat any of those teams in the last 16, so a decent chance of making the quarter finals. We could well be looking at two sets of bumper knock out rounds tv ratings if all goes to plan. It would be a real shame if we can't qualify this year when the 2nd round is looking so kind to us.

Talking of the knockout rounds, who gets first pick should England progress?

BBC get 1st pick of the 2nd round, ITV get 1st pick of QF, BBC get 1st pick of Semi finals.

Really? I find him quite boring tbh,though I'm not sad enough to complain to the BBC about it
I like Canavarro though as he seems to actually know something about the game,for instance he was the only one of the "experts" to point out Portugal didn't help themselves by leaving 3 up front after losing a man.
The others completely ignored the point though and got straight back to talking nonsense,while AC scanned the crowd for a funny face to show
At the end of the day though I tune in for the game,and the best viewing was the repeat of ENG vs Italy-- No pre match analysis,no half time just 90 mins of football.

Why was it expected to go to Five? It seems perfect for Channel 4, they showed Twilight and it's in the same genre.