The Ratings Thread (Part 60)

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H of De Vil

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Its an interesting argument which would probably affect me a little as I tend to like a lot more lower raters. I dont watch any of the main reality/entertainment and dislike quite a few of the big dramas too. Much rather watch The Fall/Line of Duty/Game of Thrones/Peaky Blinders than DA for example.
I am not sure that there have been that many shows pulled either by either side but they do occur when they produce rubbish.”

So if Call The Midwife dropped to below 3million you would decide to watch it?

cylon6

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“But Holby's already been beaten by BBC2, hasn't it? So we know it's a series that can dip if something more interesting comes along. Happily for Holby, ITV appear not to have noticed that.”

Bake Off getting 6m at 8pm on Tuesday shows Holby isn't doing as well as it should. There's a big audience there that it just doesn't appeal to like it used to. But I think the BBC think losing to Bake Off is just something everything does against it. If Holby consistently loses to an ITV show then I think they'll wake up to its ratings.

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“If ITV start competing in that 8pm slot next year then I feel it might knock Holby down to axe territories and give the BBC an easier decision to cancel it. At the moment its still rating respectably.

Losing the football I believe will come as a blessing in disguise, allowing the Tuesday schedule to improve massively.”

With no football breaks I think ITV will look at Tuesday nights and schedule them much differently. Holby could be in trouble. When most Tuesdays you have EastEnders before Holby getting 6m and a successful drama after Holby getting 6m, 4m for Holby in between doesn't look good to me. It should be getting 5m more often in overnights alone. That's not good enough, just like Waterloo Road's awful performances.

yorkie100

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“So if Call The Midwife dropped to below 3million you would decide to watch it? ”

I do like a lot of the bigger dramas as well and although I dont watch CTM religiously I do quite like it when I see it. Sherlock/Happy Valley/The Widower were all fantastic while Crimson Field/Prey/Endeavour all very good.

Philip Wilson

05-06-2014

ITV coverage of Englanda pre- #WorldCup2014 warm-up v Ecuador drew 6.4m/29.2% from 7.30pm to see 2-2 draw http://t.co/Gu75jKfL7Z

Overnights.tv

H of De Vil

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“ITV coverage of Englanda pre- #WorldCup2014 warm-up v Ecuador drew 6.4m/29.2% from 7.30pm to see 2-2 draw http://t.co/Gu75jKfL7Z

Overnights.tv”

I've no idea whether that is a good rating or not, but it look good to me.

I imagine Corrie was around 6.7m inc+1.

wizzywick

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“No I didn't. But if you axe it mid run, you annoy those viewers, then you axe The Americans, and annoy the people who were following that, then you axe something else and annoy them. Before you know it the entire audience has been annoyed at least once by ITV axing their 'favourite programme'

They don't know it was rating poorly, to them it didn't matter. It annoys them more when they would usually be replaced by a thrown together repeat, often a completely different genre.

People in this thread who seemingly like every high rating programme and hate every low rating programme wouldn't understand this.”

But, whilst I totally agree and appreciate what you are saying, surely as a commercial channel, ITV needs bums on seats. It's far more reasonable for them to annoy a million or so people rather than not attracting 4 million in the first place. If ITV's viewing figures fall to C5 size audiences, then advertisers will start wondering why they need to pay premium rates for ITV. It costs more to advertisers for space on ITV because their audience is larger. Underperforming shows are not profitable in the long run which is why, rather than cancelling series' mid run, they should reschedule them in a post 10.30 pm slot in the week. This means that viewers who want to see them can and they are replaced in prime time by bigger raters, even if they are repeats.

H of De Vil

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“But, whilst I totally agree and appreciate what you are saying, surely as a commercial channel, ITV needs bums on seats. It's far more reasonable for them to annoy a million or so people rather than not 4 million in the first place. If ITV's viewing figures fall to C5 size audiences, then advertisers will start wondering why they need to pay premium rates for ITV. It costs more to advertisers for space on ITV because their audience is larger. Underperforming shows are not profitable in the long run which is why, rather than cancelling series' mid run, they should reschedule them in a post 10.30 pm slot in the week. This means that viewers who want to see them can and they are replaced in prime time by bigger raters, even if they are repeats.”

I agree

Dancc

05-06-2014

Quote:
“Channel 5 is going head-to-head with UKTV in the storage space after the broadcasters commissioned similar series.

C5 has ordered Storage: Locked & Loaded from RDF Television and GroupM Entertainment, while UKTV snapped up a local version of Dave’s hit US format Storage Hunters from North One Television last week.

The show is set in a warehouse, which provides the backdrop for a group of dealers to battle it out to secure the contents of storage lots in real-life auctions. After the auction, the dealers will then have to attempt to sell their items at a profit.

The series was ordered by C5 factual commissioner Guy Davies, who had asked a number of indies to pitch storage ideas before greenlighting RDF’s show.

He said he was trying to move the storage genre to the next level after a slew of similar series, such as History’s Storage Wars. “We don’t have the same storage units as they do in the US, but RDF came up with this idea, which takes the best experiences of the storage shows from the States and gives it a UK feel,” said Davies.”

www.broadcastnow.co.uk

H of De Vil

05-06-2014

Coronation Street 7.05m (35.7%) 455k (2.1%) +1

7.51m (37.8%)

wizzywick

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Coronation Street 7.05m (35.7%) 455k (2.1%) +1

7.51m (37.8%)”

Steady for Corrie. Not overwhelming but not dire also. Is it just me or is there starting to emerge evidence that soaps across the board are becoming a turn off? Perhaps people are getting bored.

I still stand by my theory that if the two main broadcasters actually stopped having generic, formulaic schedules and ceased having the same shows on at the same time everyday and actually injected variety and variations like the good old days, ratings across the board would be higher. The viewers are out there. Trouble is, broadcasters are too busy self indulging in what they believe to be brilliant, they're not seeing the full picture.

cylon6

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Coronation Street 7.05m (35.7%) 455k (2.1%) +1

7.51m (37.8%)”

Coronation Street did better than Emmerdale does at 7pm.

Quote:
“I still stand by theory that if the two main broadcasters actually stopped having generic, formulaic schedules and ceased having the same shows on at the same time everyday and actually injected variety and variations like the good old days, ratings across the board would be higher. The viewers are out there. Trouble is, broadcasters are too busy self indulging in what they believe to be brilliant, they're not seeing the full picture.”

I agree with you. Boldness in scheduling and commissioning is where big ratings can come from.

yorkie100

05-06-2014

Football rating is good but then you would expect it just before the World Cup. I cant help feeling that England are going to get beat quite badly in at least one of the games - wonder if that would significantly affect the general ratings for the competion as a whole.

wizzywick

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“I do like a lot of the bigger dramas as well and although I dont watch CTM religiously I do quite like it when I see it. Sherlock/Happy Valley/The Widower were all fantastic while Crimson Field/Prey/Endeavour all very good.”

I didn't last more than an episode of Prey. I would like to see John Simm play someone a bit more cheery. I am getting bored of watching John Simm be miserable.

yorkie100

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“I didn't last more than an episode of Prey. I would like to see John Simm play someone a bit more cheery. I am getting bored of watching John Simm be miserable.”

Has John Simm ever been in anything where he was happy? I can only think of his OTT perfomance in DW and he got slated for that.

NeilVW

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Coronation Street 7.05m (35.7%) 455k (2.1%) +1

7.51m (37.8%)”

You can't add the shares together. In this instance it's 38.0%, higher because of lower total TV viewing at 19:00 than 20:00.

Jolly decent share for an out-of-slot episode, I say.

wizzywick

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Has John Simm ever been in anything where he was happy? I can only think of his OTT perfomance in DW and he got slated for that.”

I can't recall anything cheery he's been in. Perhaps he is miserable in real life and struggles to play happy!

ftv

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“I can't recall anything cheery he's been in. Perhaps he is miserable in real life and struggles to play happy!”

I think you might be confusing the actor with the characters he plays

H of De Vil

05-06-2014

1 ITV3 08:00 PM Lewis 1016 4.5%
2 E4 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 976 5%
3 E4 06:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 713 4.1%
4 ITV4 10:00 PM TT 2014 594 3.7%
5 BBC Three 11:10 PM Family Guy 566 5.8%
6 E4 06:00 PM The Big Bang Theory 541 3.4%
7 Sky1 09:00 PM 24: Live Another Day 537 2.3%
8 BBC Three 11:30 PM American Dad! 517 6.9%
9 E4 09:00 PM The Tomorrow People 511 2.2%
10 ITV4 12:30 PM French Open Tennis 2014 498 4.1%

Lewis did well

ITV4 having a good run of ratings for their sports coverage.

wizzywick

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by ftv:
“I think you might be confusing the actor with the characters he plays”

That's kind of my point! He only plays miserable characters - because he is perhaps too miserable in reality to do comedy. Most actors are versatile but it seems John Simm isn't. Every drama he is in is virtually exactly the same character except with a different name.

H of De Vil

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Steady for Corrie. Not overwhelming but not dire also. Is it just me or is there starting to emerge evidence that soaps across the board are becoming a turn off? Perhaps people are getting bored.

I still stand by my theory that if the two main broadcasters actually stopped having generic, formulaic schedules and ceased having the same shows on at the same time everyday and actually injected variety and variations like the good old days, ratings across the board would be higher. The viewers are out there. Trouble is, broadcasters are too busy self indulging in what they believe to be brilliant, they're not seeing the full picture.”

Corrie was in an unadvertised 7pm slot last night which usually catches people out. Its on today at 8:30pm and is bound to be lower than yesterday as it starts in that awkward 8:30pm Thursday slot.

H of De Vil

05-06-2014

Mary Silver Service flopped on Ch4 with 632k excl+1

I Wanna Marry Harry flopped also with 256k (1.1%) and 220k (1.4%).

Pointless 2.92m (22%)

lewiep93

05-06-2014

Just seen this amazing stat for the Happy Valley finale

Sam Hodges ‏@Sam_Hodges 6m
Amazing AI of 93 for the last episode of #HappyValley on @BBCOne

Must be one of the highest AI's in a while?

Straker

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“That's kind of my point! He only plays miserable characters - because he is perhaps too miserable in reality to do comedy. Most actors are versatile but it seems John Simm isn't. Every drama he is in is virtually exactly the same character except with a different name.”

He`s too busy doing voiceovers. For someone who made a big deal out of doing a second series of Life on Mars (as if to say, "I wouldn`t normally lower myself...") he`s more than willing to lend his voice to advertising any old tat.

hyperstarsponge

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Mary Silver Service flopped on Ch4 with 632k excl+1

I Wanna Marry Harry flopped also with 256k (1.1%) and 220k (1.4%).

Pointless 2.92m (22%)”

Well we all know that was going to tank

cylon6

05-06-2014

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“I can't recall anything cheery he's been in. Perhaps he is miserable in real life and struggles to play happy!”

John Simm loves misery porn dramas. The only recent ones that had a dash of humour were Life On Mars and Doctor Who. It was ages ago that he did something full on funny with Men Of The World.

http://youtu.be/huY7QBE4grU

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