You say that, but between 2009 and 2012 ITV had the football on Wednesdays and they still struggled badly on Tuesdays, in fact if anything it got worse. They seemed to just not bother with anything in the hope that they would get football back on there in the next contract. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the thinking again this time.


I dunno about this, you could say that about any recent tournament, in 2012 they were a bit of a shambles going into proceedings with Hodgson having just taken over and that did alright, similarly Euro 2000 which was a disaster from start to finish. And England were atrocious in the last World Cup too, that didn't have any impact on the ratings. The Algeria match was bloody awful and it got a massive rating. People want to watch the World Cup, you'd lose the really massive ratings if England went out early doors but everything would rate alright, the only issue this time round is the late kick-offs but they'll get some massive shares.

You certainly can't write off England based on a team full of reserves drawing with Ecuador in searing heat when a full-strength Italy drew at home to Luxembourg and Uruguay barely scraped past Northern Ireland.

In your opinion, which nobody has asked for.

I think everybody knows it's a marmite show. Do we really need people piping up with these comments before it's even started?

The only relevant factors to discuss in here are performance related. And if you don't like it being discussed, tough. I don't really care about EastEnders ratings but they get discussed in great depth every day, which is fine because it's on topic and I can freely skip those posts.

Thanks very much - I am well known for my redundant comments.
It was just a joke.

If you can't see how you're being offensive by indirectly saying anybody who finds Big Brother entertaining is abnormal, then I have no more to say to you.

Do not pretend your uncalled for post was innocuous. It was anything but.

I don't know, I've read about it in the same places it usually gets mentioned. There's never that much hype about it any more.

I do wonder if Emma Willis' higher profile since doing The Voice will have any slight positive effect on figures. Fingers crossed for another series like last year's, which was the best C5 one yet.

I just dont think the England defence is up to international level - our chance lies in the young stars really having a go and it coming off in a few games.

Only just seen how badly second ep of From There To Here did. I'm not surprised. I was really looking forward to seeing a drama about the Manchester bombing but it ended up having nothing to do with it. I couldn't even make it to the end of episode 1. What was the point of spending all that money quite successfully re-creating the scene and then not using it.

I agree. I fear it will be a shortlived effort from England this summer. Italy and Uruguay look stronger in just about every department.

In English terms, saying "most normal" does not equate to saying everyone else is abnormal. We are all equally normal and equally abnormal because the phrase is merely a definition of expectation. Therefore it is an expectation that most people who fall into a certain conformity will not ever consider watching Big Brother.

Nice save.

Can we get back to ratings please and save the highly respectful and dignified "BB is shit, pathetic and for those with zero intellect" rants for somewhere else?

I'll get the ball rolling.

Disappointment for C4 at 8PM, another flop for Mary Portas making that particular talent deal look a bad bit of business.

However at 10PM Broadcast reports that My Last Summer pulled in 1.1m (6.9%). That looks a fairly strong response considering the difficult subject matter.

Yes Dancc. I love you really! I promise I won't mention BB again. BTW, I didn't say you had zero intellect. I said watching it requires zero intellect. There's a difference! But you are right, enough is enough. Talking of C5, when does Wentworth come back?

More importantly when does Dallas and Under the Dome come back. Noticed Under the Dome being repeated after midnight on Channel 5 next week.

Good spot, I hadn't seen that. So two episodes a week will mean they have finished the rerun by July 22. It'll probably be back in August around the same time as CBB.

Only 2.7m for Del Boys & Dealers on BBC One at 9pm last night.

Thoroughly deserved.

Under the Dome returns to US tv on the 30 June. If Ch5 show it within a week of transmission there is not too long to wait. If they want to remain one week behind with Dallas, and catch up they will be able to start at the same time as Under the Dome,

Well that would be the logical idea.

According to mediaweek, Big Brother is projected to reach up to 25 million viewers this summer.

How does that work?

Adding every ep together? Or switching a world cup match to BB by mistake...

It's a long run. The total reach soon adds up when it's on every night.

Good to see the show exploring further product placement opportunities this summer.

http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/article/1...nk-big-brother

With all due respect this thread does not only discuss ratings. Shows with good ratings often get a hammering here because people do not like them, eg
Controversial yet popular shows like Gypsy Wedding, Benefits St etc
Like it or not BB is considered by many to be Bad TV. You'd be as well to just ignore the comments, they won't go away.
For what it's worth I am sure it will get a high female skew against wall to wall football, it should do well.

Ah thanks. I was sort of asking for an explanation of 'reach' as I'm not sure how it's added up! Didn't word it well.

A good finish for the Tomorrow People on E4, they will really miss that series. A preview of the 100 aired after so must be starting soon but it wasn't keen on it, New Girl is finally back next week as well.

Decent for the football, and I'd say that a pretty darn good rating for the out of slot Corrie. Everything else pretty poor really, Mary Portas another BBC2 star that wasn't worth poaching and I Wanna Marry Harry predictably flopping hard for ITV2. Good results for ITV3 and ITV4 with the sport though so not all bad on the Multichannel front for ITV.

As for Big Brother tonight I really don't know, having not watched much of C5 lately I can't say i've seen any promotion for it.

I think the measure they use is 3 consecutive minutes.

Ah I see. Sort of. So 25 million different (pairs of) eyes will see 'at least 3 consecutive minutes' of the show over the 3 months or so?

I reckon 2.1 million for BB inc +1 at 9 tonight.

Yes. So that could be somebody flicking through the channels between programmes that catches a few minutes of an eviction, for example. I'm not sure it's a very meaningful figure really, but you can see why BB is so attractive from a product placement point-of-view.