The Ratings Thread (Part 60)

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SamuelW

06-06-2014

Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“The Crimson Field hasn't been recommissioned according to the writer on twitter. A shame as there was a lot more story to tell.

@PhelpsieSarah
'Found out today that #TheCrimsonField won't be recommissioned by @BBCOne Gutted doesn't even touch the sides of how I feel.'”

Its ratings didnt quite deliver. Was supposed to be a mainstream drama, expensive with a large ensemble cast. Launched with over 6million but couldnt sustain its audience. Best to get rid of it and invest the money into another quality drama which will get the ratings. A good decision by the Beeb.

oathy

06-06-2014

Hi not sure if there was but Live from the house last night on C5? any ratings please.

NeilVW

06-06-2014

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Bit on the Side- 707K (5.7%)

Not a good sign for tonight, that looks low for a post-launch BOTS. Especially considering they had quite a strong panel for BOTS standards.”

Last year's equivalent BOTS had 744k (5.8%) / 845k (6.6%). I don't have last night's +1 figure to hand but it looks like the +1-included rating just fell short of last year's.

yorkie100

06-06-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“The royal wedding, birth and death are entirely different things. As much as the soldiers of D-Day should be respected for what they did, the Royal landmark events are happening now. Anyhow viewers would soon complain ITV coverage was poor with adverts in between them.

In these kind of events ITV don't get a look in, despite the quality of coverage - as we saw with the Royal Wedding with ITV's much better than the BBC's, but a fraction of the ratings. Adverts turn viewers away.”

It seemed to me that the D Day commemorations took place today ie now. You can excuse it all you like its a wrong call and disrespectful.

hyperstarsponge

06-06-2014

Well I hope BOTS doesn't do very well.

yorkie100

06-06-2014

That has to be one of the barmier desicisions the BBC has ever made. Critically acclaimed and very good ratings - complete numpties.

SamuelW

06-06-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“That has to be one of the barmier desicisions the BBC has ever made. Critically acclaimed and very good ratings - complete numpties.”

This was supposed to be a big drama for the Beeb. Well trailed, landmark drama involving a well known ensemble cast and an expensive set. However most of the episodes rated below 5million in the overnights and lost out to plodding Itv drama Vera. It's not good enough. The BBC are most concerned about ratings when it comes to BBC One drama. Even if the quality is good, if the ratings are not up to scratch [especially in the Sunday 9pm slot], it's time for the chop. The money saved from its cancellation will be reinvested into more quality drama next year which potentially could rate millions better than Sarah Phelps' underperformer. The BBC are not like Itv, there are high expectations and even shows rating around the 5m overnight mark can be axed. Itv may be happy to keep sub 5m shows around like Mr Selfridge, but the Beeb has higher ratings aspirations and have to make these tough decisions.

yorkie100

06-06-2014

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“It was covered - on the news.

Just because BBC1 decide to run full coverage doesn't mean ITV have to do as well. The days of the 2 main channels offering identical coverage of every news event are long gone, particularly as we now have news channels as well which also offered full coverage which we didn't have in the eras people are harking back to.

ITV will pick and choose just the most major events to cover these days. Without being disrespectful, today's event wasn't one of those major events, these would be limited to a royal event, election or major breaking news story.

Of course the real reason people are bemoaning the lack of ITV coverage is because they are missing out on the predictable circus of posts. People here tune in for 2 seconds and then immediately brand the entire broadcast as poor quality, then people proudly saying that they are 'sticking with the BBC', and then when the rating comes out, gloating that BBC1 beat ITV many times to 1.”

So predictable.

H of De Vil

06-06-2014

Stupid decision, really stupid. It was a great drama, better than CTM in fact. It wasn't even rating that badly anyway. It seems more like ratings chasing.

I'm sure this was supposed to be another big BBC drama hit, with all the ingredients to be one, or so we were told.

yorkie100

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“This was supposed to be a big drama for the Beeb. Well trailed, landmark drama involving a well known ensemble cast and an expensive set. However most of the episodes rated below 5million in the overnights and lost out to plodding Itv drama Vera. It's not good enough. The BBC are most concerned about ratings when it comes to BBC One drama. Even if the quality is good, if the ratings are not up to scratch [especially in the Sunday 9pm slot], it's time for the chop. The money saved from its cancellation will be reinvested into more quality drama next year which potentially could rate millions better than Sarah Phelps' underperformer. The BBC are not like Itv, there are high expectations and even shows rating around the 5m overnight mark can be axed. Itv may be happy to keep sub 5m shows around like Mr Selfridge, but the Beeb has higher ratings aspirations and have to make these tough decisions.”

The Crimson Field officials were all over 6m and it averaged around 6.5m.
The Village was recommissioned on lower figures than that or need I mention Atlantis/Musketeers which were both much lower and got another series. Completely baffling decision.

H of De Vil

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“It seemed to me that the D Day commemorations took place today ie now. You can excuse it all you like its a wrong call and disrespectful.”

They had coverage, every news bulletin featured it throughout the day, what more do they need. If they were being disrespectful then they would completely ignored it, but they didn't.

Perhaps we should have had Ch4, Ch5 and some multichannel's clear their schedules for the same coverage? The BBC is covering what is a requirement for them and ITV is covering it the news. How much coverage do viewers want to watch? They've paid they're respects.

cylon6

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“French Open to stay on ITV until 2018

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...8#.U5HDDyj4Liw”

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Yes and they have at last had a bit of luck with Andy Murray even if it is his least favoured surface.
They will hope it isn't just a quick three setter even if it flings their schedule about.

I tended to get the impression the BBC were never that keen on the French Open.”

The BBC actually put in a bid for The French Open according to Broadcast.

Fudd

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“For me they should have taken the ratings hit and provided something of genuine PSB value for once. It's one day out of 365. Who cares if a few fools on here rip them apart for not being able to compete with the BBC's coverage, it's not about that.”

It is nowadays due the amount of choice. I think the Royal Wedding figures might have been the straw that broke the camel's back, as it were. Yes, they simulcast the Euro and World Cup final but that's because of the demos.

ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 all have PSB obligations. All decided against rolling coverage of the commemorations because it wouldn't be beneficial to them, as bad as that might sound or seem.

NeilVW

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“The Crimson Field officials were all over 6m and it averaged around 6.5m.”

Official average of 6.60m (24.0%).

Fudd

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Official average of 6.60m (24.0%).”

Why the heck have they axed it? Bizarre decision.

cylon6

07-06-2014

I can't believe this! It rated better than quite a few BBC1 dramas. This is nuts!

Andy23

07-06-2014

And because the coverage would look incomplete if they didn't. Imagine if ITV Sport signed off after the semi-final, would look daft.

H of De Vil

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Official average of 6.60m (24.0%).”

That's around the same as The Musketeers and around 1million higher than Atlantis. Plonkers

cylon6

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“Official average of 6.60m (24.0%).”

Every episode over 6m in the consolidated ratings. This is just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“That's around the same as The Musketeers and around 1million higher than Atlantis. Plonkers”

And The Musketeers average was inflated by the episode 1 rating. No wonder the people on The Crimson Field are pissed!

cylon6

07-06-2014

Who posted the drama series averages? I'm trying to find them. Would be good to post them again then you can see why it is madness to axe The Crimson Field.

EDIT: Found it.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=7052

Code:

01: 11.83m - Sherlock (c)
02: 10.54m - Call the Midwife (c)
03: 08.46m - Death in Paradise (c)
04: 07.38m - Silent Witness (c)
05: 07.38m - The 7.39 (c) 
06: 07.36m - Jonathan Creek (c) 
07: 07.10m - Happy Valley
10: 06.89m - The Widower (c) (+1: 0.61m) 
09: 06.81m - Vera (c) (+1: 0.46m) 
08: 06.78m - Prey (c) (+1: 0.44m) 
11: 06.74m - Undeniable (c) (+1: 0.38m) 
12: 06.60m - The Crimson Field (c)
13: 06.57m - Inspector George Gently (c)
14: 06.56m - DCI Banks (c) (+1: 0.51m)
15: 06.44m - Midsomer Murders (c) (+1: 0.37m)
16: 06.30m - The Musketeers (c)
17: 06.24m - Endeavour (c) (+1: 0.53m)
18: 05.95m - Jamaica Inn (c)
19: 05.88m - Mr. Selfridge (c) (+1: 0.47m)
20: 05.74m - Casualty

NeilVW

07-06-2014

This was rzt's list for the whole of 2013:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=4398

Bushmills

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Of course the real reason people are bemoaning the lack of ITV coverage is because they are missing out on the predictable circus of posts. People here tune in for 2 seconds and then immediately brand the entire broadcast as poor quality, then people proudly saying that they are 'sticking with the BBC', and then when the rating comes out, gloating that BBC1 beat ITV many times to 1.”

I really do hope you're on a wind-up, because otherwise this is the saddest, most tragic post I've ever read.

ITV is a television channel, Andy. Nothing more, nothing less.

cylon6

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“This was rzt's list for the whole of 2013:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=4398”

The Crimson Field did better than quite a few on that list.

BROXI BEAR

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Dire rating for the well trailed Ryan Giggs documentary yesterday. Especially as it had the Coro oap-boosting lead-in. On a regular Thursday night with a sub-3m inheritence, it probably would've rated around 1.3million. I expect tonight's much hyped Soccer Aid prequel show will be low rating too, possibly 4th in its slot. With the Itv weekly reach crisis, I predict this Sunday's Soccer Aid final will be its lowest rated ever.”

Well trailed - tick
Coro oap lead in - tick
Much hyped - tick
Itv weekly reach crisis - tick

Groundhog day on here with your comments!

i4u

07-06-2014

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“It is nowadays due the amount of choice. I think the Royal Wedding figures might have been the straw that broke the camel's back, as it were. Yes, they simulcast the Euro and World Cup final but that's because of the demos.

ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 all have PSB obligations. All decided against rolling coverage of the commemorations because it wouldn't be beneficial to them, as bad as that might sound or seem.”

Did I really see a programme listed on ITV last night dedicated to saying goodbye to a fictional character in a soap?

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