I don't think I will rate particularly differently. They needed to put it on at another time of year if the expected that huge a uplift. I think it seemed to outgrow BBC TWO so they weren't allowed to play with it any more, but I think it will pretty much stay the same on BBC one if its not moved to a new season.

Of course, The Voice live shows go the opposite way and the final rated 30% down on last year (which was, in turn, down 30% on series 1).

My source for Australian ratings (Dancc who kindly posts numbers here regularly) shows that the market is a bit mental. XF AU's decline is something of a surprise given its strong run in the past 2 years, it has posted some very poor numbers this year even since The Voice finished. But then again, we also saw a sudden massive bounce for Masterchef after years of decline.

The UK doesn't tend to see such extreme changes, not being as competitive as Australia. Trying to draw comparisons between the UK and Australia is absurd given that XF has been on a hot streak out there in recent years while the UK show struggled.

Do you mean with the first episode or at all? If the former then of course it won't, it isn't expected to and won't be deemed a failure if it doesn't*. Of course it it doesn't top it over the course of the series then the move will be questioned, and rightly so, but I think that's unlikely, even with it starting a whole two weeks before last year (which won't make as much difference as certain people are suggesting.)

*A few tabloid might try to spin it that way, but they won't be taken seriously.

I think it will, Bake Off has huge hype this time. The big BBC promo campaign and just anecdotally, everyone I know talks about it and we're students- It has a wide reach in terms of demo and having a big show front and centre in late summer is a great idea as there's nothing else to compete, especially in that Pre-Watershed 8pm slot (and to use an old Ratings Thread Cliche it also has the advantage of getting the OAPs in their seats after Corrie )

I wonder if we will ever see a series get 14m again? Topping 13m seems the maximum. now

I meant with the finale of the current series. Bake ITV's opening edition won't get 9m. The first edition could be similar to last year's opening number.

I think ratings will be similar to last year but perhaps not reaching some of the highs of the last series.

Did anyone watch ITV excellent doc tonight The Pals Army at 10:15pm. Retelling the story of the war from the perspectives of the war veterans. This should have been in primetime at 9pm.

I think with the return of Simon and Cheryl and the inclusion of Mel b The X Factor will return to a 10m+ show. Depending on how strong the episodes are. I think both Doctor Who ( I really think this will be a return to form and I cannot wait) and The X Factor will both do well if opposite each other (with XF getting some big +1 audiences). Dr Who should be looking at 6m+ and XF 9.5m+, that is as long as ITV has supportive schedule around it.

Worldwide presumably want Dr Who out on dvd before December, so it had to launch in August.

I think both will do well too. The first episode of Doctor Who could get a big rating and X Factor's first edition will likely beat Doctor Who. That will be different to X Factor v Day Of The Doctor last year. Doctor Who will timeshift like crazy though and have decent overnights.

"@TVRatingsUK: The #CommonwealthGames Closing Ceremony was yesterday's most watched with an average of 6.77m/34.2% watching from 9pm."

"@Sam_Hodges: .@BBCOne was the highest rating channel in every time slot yesterday as the #CommonwealthGames bowed out with a peak of 7.7m."

"@TVRatingsUK: On ITV, a #FoylesWar repeat drew 2.39m/11.3% from 8pm. #DragonsDen on BBC2 also averaged 2.39m (11.6% share)."

06:00 - Breakfast: 704k (40.2%)
07:45 - Commonwealth Games 2014: 1.61m (25.1%)
11:45 - BBC News: 1.43m (19.3%)
11:55 - Commonwealth Games 2014: 2.29m (23.0%)
17:35 - Seven Wonders of the Commonwealth: 2.54m (18.1%)
18:35 - BBC News: 4.26m (27.1%)
18:50 - BBC Regional News: 4.80m (29.4%)
19:00 - Countryfile: 5.65m (31.8%)
20:00 - Commonwealth Games 2014 Review: 5.14m (25.0%)
21:00 - Commonwealth Games 2014 Closing Ceremony: 6.77m (34.2%)
23:00 - BBC News: 3.32m (27.0%)
23:20 - BBC Regional News: 2.96m (27.5%)

Thanks DMN.

Unsurprisingly BBC1's all day share was 26%.

Does anyone have access to the rating for the documentary on ITV 'The Pals Army' at 10:15pm? Please.

More than it deserved, a horribly insipid and unimaginative end to what had otherwise been a greatly entertaining week and a half of high-class sport. Real shame.

Very rare for one network to win every single time slot. I think it may have happened (for BBC1) once or twice before?

I hope so but I do worry about the feature-length aspect. Wouldn't bet against a shed of viewership during the slower parts, as we saw with Sherlock.

In the last few weeks it has happened every weekend. There's very few slots during the week when BBC1 is beaten too - sometimes Jeremy Kyle, sometimes Tipping Point/The Chase and of course the soaps.

BBC1 and ITV really can't be put in the same bracket any more, there's a huge gulf between them.

The closing ceremony was awful. Like a really bad school sportsday. Why all of those speeches? They'll never get The Olympics.

ITV are now more concerned with making profit, and the BBC rating well throughout the day.

ITV's stance is typical of a business, but being a TV channel (and a major one) they should be putting so much more effort into the schedule all year round. Unfortunately they allow parts of the year to fall apart meaning the BBC don't even need to try.

Glasgow? What a ridiculous statement. They wouldn't even try for them as they would openly admit they couldn't host it.

However if they did, why should we base it on the opening and closing ceremonies? Nobody can deny they put in a spectacular games which saw every single venue rammed full of excited spectators

When ITV don't even try with rpt galore, its no wonder the BBC walk away without needing to even try.

Has the runtime been confirmed, as "feature length" for DW can mean 70 to 75 mins?

The "world tour" advance screenings were claiming it'd run at between 80 and 82 minutes, if I recall correctly.

EDIT: Sorry, after a quick google search it transpires BBFC are giving it a run time of 97 minutes. http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/docto...ep-breath-film You can give or take a few for the differences between cinema and television, as with the 50th, though.