Originally Posted by
yorkie100:
“The mind boggles !!!! 
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I don't think a series about a scrapyard is so bizarre, A Life Of Grime did very well for the Beeb for many years, and obviously this series will be more about the people who visit and the stuff they find rather than the minutiae of running a scrapyard.
Originally Posted by burbe:
“There's absolutely no excuse for ITV's clash today. 1930-2030 broadcast of Emmerdale preceded by the news was the logical schedule.”
Well, we know now that was a stroke of genius for ITV but I don't know why they didn't repeat that trick on Monday and Tuesday, rather than showing Emmerdale at 7.30. I wouldn't have wanted them to do that, obviously, but if they wanted to be aggressive, they may as well keep it consistent, and if anyone complained they could have said they wanted to keep it as near to its usual slot as possible.
As far as moving 'stEnders goes, I think the longest they've ever gone between episodes is during the 1998 World Cup was there was an episode on Wednesday and then none until the following Thursday, the Beeb deciding to drop it totally from the nights when football was on rather than put it on early. That seems to be the kind of thinking ITV are using now with Corrie.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“22:00 - Mock the Week: 1.0m (4.5%)
* last series opener: 2.5m (12.6%)”
Ha ha, that show is rubbish so I'm absolutely delighted with that figure. Wasn't a particularly attractive slot for it, though, especially as it had a useless lead-in too. In fact BBC1 and BBC2 on Thursday night were both showing comedy at 9.30 which shouldn't be happening, it's surely the first rule of scheduling. It seems the Beeb have decided Mock The Week is now at this time of year, presumably so it avoids being on the same time as HIGNFY, but it seems a bit stupid given it'll be punted from pillar to post by Wimbledon and upstaged by the World Cup. Heaven knows what it'll get next week when it's straight after the England match finishes.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I like Russell. He wouldn't be my favourite comedian by any means but he's certainly one of the better ones that frequent the tellybox and I can see why he's so popular. This looks a good bit of business by Comedy Central and with a bit of luck the sort of thing that might get repeated at some point on Channel 5. Or would his Beeb deal likely prevent that?”
Er, I don't know, I'm guessing it wouldn't because they'd have said so otherwise. Of course when Comedy Central was Paramount they had a co-production deal with Channel Five for a while and a few C5 comedies like Angelos were funded by, and shown on, both channels, until C5 abruptly ended the deal when they decided to give up on scripted comedy.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“It's totally OTT for the BBC to dedicate Olympic-esque scheduling for it. They didn't do it for Manchester, Melbourne, or Delhi so why do it for Glasgow?”
Different things entirely, in 2002 the athletics especially were extremely prominent on BBC1 (and there was non-stop daytime coverage from 9am to 6pm) and as I said the other day even as recently as 2002 you wouldn't get so much primetime sport on BBC1, they'd only that year started showing primetime FA Cup matches and things like rugby were never in primetime. And Melbourne and Delhi were of course in different timezones.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Not sure about that. Last night's second Emmerdale audience was similar to the first because the first was lower than usual.”
The other benefit for the second Emmerdale is that the first ended at 7.40, away from the junction on every other channel, and because there was only twenty minutes between the two it was hardly worth anyone watching anything else, they may as well have hung around.
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Stand By Your Man didn't do very well last night for Channel 5. A shame really, as it looked like it had all the ingredients to capture the BB audience. I was expecting it to cling onto all of the Big Brother audience as it was sandwiched between the two eviction shows. It looked like a fun dating show like Take Me Out, and that does well for ITV.”
I think you've explained the problem yourself there, it looked like Take Me Out to the extent that it was hardly worth bothering with because we've already got that, we don't need another virtually identical programme. Baggage tried something similar on C4 and was a massive flop.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Weird experience watching I love 1988, a retrospective which is now an antique itself.”
In fact it was made in 2001, which is as long ago as 1988 was when they made it. Illustrates the huge changes we had in British TV in the eighties, I remember in the nineties there'd sometimes be repeats from the eighties on CBBC and they would look absolutely ancient. Nowadays apart from the presence of Joe Mace (now a big executive at ITV, fact fans) shows over a decade ago are still regularly wheeled out and don't look out of place at all.
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“As an aside, according to Overnights.tv, The Sky at Night hasn't been on BBC One at all this year, or indeed BBC Two - just on BBC Four. I hadn't noticed that.”
Yes, when they had that discussion last year when it was rumoured it might be axed, when they recommissioned it, it was announced it would only be on BBC4 from now on. No great loss, of course, I assume the vast majority of viewers were watching it on BBC4 anyway because it was in primetime and also longer, as opposed to 1am on BBC1. I always wondered why it was twenty minutes on BBC1 but half an hour on BBC4. Why didn't they just show the full half hour on BBC1, given it was 1am?
Originally Posted by
NeilVW:
“The BBC came on air earlier and so their rating presumably included an extra 15 minutes of build-up:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carouse...orldCup86.html
Neither had a lot of post-match analysis if the match started at 19:00! I can understand the BBC wanting to get the Nine O'Clock News on but ITV just put a repeat of Minder on at 21:00, or it could have been just STV, as this schedule was published by the Glasgow Herald”
Undoubtedly the reason for ITV's high rating for that was because the episode of Corrie before it at 6.15 was a massive, massive episode where the Rovers went on fire, which had been hyped up for weeks, it's still one of the most famous episodes ever. And because they showed it at 6.15 and got loads of compaints for people who missed it, they repeated it the following day at 9pm. Of course, in those days half time was only ten minutes so football matches ended earlier than they do now, it would have been over by 8.45 at the latest.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Check out the ratings for the 5pm games for instance: bbc had 34pct share, Itv had 28pct - both games involving similar kind of teams. Even factoring the extra half an hour pre-match buildup itv had, bbcs share was still about 4pct higher. It's not much, but the difference is there.”
Similar kinds of teams, but substantially different circumstances. One was on Friday and one was on Saturday, and even though some people knock off earlier on a Friday there's still a smaller audience about before 6pm at least. In addition on Friday the ITV match was opposite a new episode of Pointless and the regular news programmes with their loyal audience, as opposed to the BBC match on Saturday up against a repeat of Tipping Point and a repeat of You've Been Framed. Hence surely explaining the, as you say, minor difference in share.
Originally Posted by
Pizzatheaction:
“Steve Williams can probably tell us, but I have a vague memory of an unexpected simulcast of a knock-out England game in either a World Cup or a Euro a long time ago, but it might just have been a young me not realising there was a simulcast agreement in force for the game. 
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Er, in 1990 I think ITV were suposed to have England's game against Belgium exclusively but the Beeb decided they wanted to show it as well, and in the end both channels simulcast virtually everything in that tournament and the schedules were ridiculous (I always remember The Les Dennis Laughter Show getting flung out about 5pm). As you see, in 2002 they simulcast all the knockout games (and also Spain vs Ireland) but by 2004 ITV decided not to bother and it hasn't happened since.
As we've mentioned before, in Des Lynam's book he said in 1998 the Beeb said to ITV they wanted to show all the England games and they didn't care if they did as well, but ITV took issue with that and they didn't.
): 1.20m / (29.4%) = 4.1m total TV audience
