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Results:Do you want Esther back at the forefront?
Yes
26 (59.09%)
No
18 (40.91%)
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Hollyoaks E4 Daily 03/06/14 7:00 - Decision Maker
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Lizzie Brookes
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Amy_Jayne93:
“^ Thank you priscilla!

Oh ffs Diane! Tony was completely right to report Finn - the monster should be locked up!

So Robbie decided to threaten his future by taking the blame for something he didn't do? Would have been noble had he then not tried to make a move on his sister-in-law (which is only a fact when it is convenient by the looks of things!).
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I agree. All that disappoints me is that Tony didn't work out Finn beat up Blessing. He sill thinks Robbie did (rolls eyes) Thank God Nancy gave Robbie an alibi.
redrose89
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Why not? She did wrong.”

I know she did and although she deserves to be punished I just like Esther and want her to succeed.

Robbie is either a good boy or a bad boy; can the writers decide please?
Lizzie Brookes
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by redrose89:
“I know she did and although she deserves to be punished I just like Esther and want her to succeed.

Robbie is either a good boy or a bad boy; can the writers decide please?”

That would be too black and white but I am glad he has softened since learning of the rape. He shouldn't have tried to kiss Nancy though.
spikewoman
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes:
“That would be too black and white but I am glad he has softened since learning of the rape. He shouldn't have tried to kiss Nancy though.”

Yeah I agree. What I like about the writing for many of the characters is that you get the good and the bad sides of them otherwise it would be just too pantomime. Having a good and bad side doesn't make for inconsistency as most of us have faults and prejudices as well as acts of benevolence.

One character they do this well with is Ste who over all is going in the right direction (I know his present situation is a bit dark but assuming he stays long term and overcomes it...) where he is very much two steps forward and one step back.
ME1234567
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes:
“That's a bit strong, though I agree it was idiotic of Robbie to make a pass at her.”

I agree, he was stupid to kiss her but it is hardly sexual harassment, if he carried on coming on to her when she knocked him back and told him she wasn't interested then that would be sexual harassment.
Lizzie Brookes
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by spikewoman:
“Yeah I agree. What I like about the writing for many of the characters is that you get the good and the bad sides of them otherwise it would be just too pantomime. Having a good and bad side doesn't make for inconsistency as most of us have faults and prejudices as well as acts of benevolence.

One character they do this well with is Ste who over all is going in the right direction (I know his present situation is a bit dark but assuming he stays long term and overcomes it...) where he is very much two steps forward and one step back.”

I agree.
Lizzie Brookes
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by ME1234567:
“I agree, he was stupid to kiss her but it is hardly sexual harassment, if he carried on coming on to her when she knocked him back and told him she wasn't interested then that would be sexual harassment.”

I agree.
littleghost
04-06-2014
I guess Esther will get her comeuppance soon enough, they won't want to show someone prospering from cheating. I would have said it'll probably be good old Hollyoaks Polytechnic for her, but they seem to have done away with all the uni sets?
oilcat
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by gwenda:
“I don't think Diane has destroyed the evidence. She's hanging onto it somewhere...just in case.”

Shes got his phone as well remember, wasnt there some vile texts from Finn to JP?

Anyway Tony, kick them out.....you know it makes sense
Lizzie Brookes
04-06-2014
I agree that he should kick Finn out. I'm not so sure about Diane. To be fair to her she didn't overhear what Finn said to Blessing and remember Sinead's wrongdoing was more open while Finn changed dramatically in a matter of months. It's going to be hard for Diane and even Tony to get their heads round that.
ME1234567
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes:
“I agree that he should kick Finn out. I'm not so sure about Diane. To be fair to her she didn't overhear what Finn said to Blessing and remember Sinead's wrongdoing was more open while Finn changed dramatically in a matter of months. It's going to be hard for Diane and even Tony to get their heads round that.”


I think Tony is beginning to see how nasty he has become because he knew about him bullying JP and heard how vile he was to Blessing, I do think Tony might believe JP when the truth comes out.
Lizzie Brookes
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by ME1234567:
“I think Tony is beginning to see how nasty he has become because he knew about him bullying JP and heard how vile he was to Blessing, I do think Tony might believe JP when the truth comes out.”

I agree. I'm just disappointed that Tony continued to believe that Robbie beat Blessing up after he heard what Finn said to her. I mean Finn has a video of Blessing being beaten up in his possession, obviously hates poor Blessing for being transgendered, was vile to her and has violent content on his laptop. It doesn't take a genius to work out Finn has more motive for this crime than Robbie.
Amy_Jayne93
04-06-2014
Just watched this episode, does any one else absolutely despise Sonny and his smug, punchable face?

His conversation with Sinead was interesting though. So it seems like Tony is only on Sinead's list as she sees destroying his relationship with Diane as a favour to him? (Which I find myself agreeing with!). It was his comment about Ste that got me though; it sounds like he is on Sinead's list after all? As Sonny seemed very pleased with himself that Leah and Lucas are close to being taken off Ste.

It looks like Darren/Ziggy are going to bond - finally a brother Darren might actually talk to (who isn't trying to get with his wife)! As for Freddie he's probably be relieved Darren had a heart attack so that he can go through with his stupid plan.
trevon1
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by ME1234567:
“I agree, he was stupid to kiss her but it is hardly sexual harassment, if he carried on coming on to her when she knocked him back and told him she wasn't interested then that would be sexual harassment.”

He kissed a teacher without her consent. I think there are levels of harrassment. There is something wrong with a student who thinks they can kiss a teacher on the lips and everything's perfectly fine. I don't feel someone needs to put their hand on ones private area for it to be harrassment.
lulu g
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by trevon1:
“He kissed a teacher without her consent. I think there are levels of harrassment. There is something wrong with a student who thinks they can kiss a teacher on the lips and everything's perfectly fine. I don't feel someone needs to put their hand on ones private area for it to be harrassment.”

Yes, sexual harassment can consist of unwelcome physical or sexual advances, including kissing.
ME1234567
04-06-2014
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Jingle Jangle
04-06-2014
It's a bit heavy-handed to suggest that when someone makes a pass at someone else they are sexually harassing them. They may be, but they may be just trying it on. Isn't that the way of the world? Robbie acted completely inappropriately towards Nancy, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
ME1234567
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Jingle Jangle:
“It's a bit heavy-handed to suggest that when someone makes a pass at someone else they are sexually harassing them. They may be, but they may be just trying it on. Isn't that the way of the world? Robbie acted completely inappropriately towards Nancy, but I wouldn't call it harassment.”

I agree.
StarryNight
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Jingle Jangle:
“It's a bit heavy-handed to suggest that when someone makes a pass at someone else they are sexually harassing them. They may be, but they may be just trying it on. Isn't that the way of the world? Robbie acted completely inappropriately towards Nancy, but I wouldn't call it harassment.”

I agree. If he kept trying to kiss her then it would be more like harassment imo.

Its a fine line, I suppose. It depends on the person, I feel far more harassed when dudes repeatedly ask me out (mad men).

Not taking no for an answer is more like harassment to me than someone trying to kiss someone on one occassion.

Anyway, i've decided this storyline is stupid. I thought it would be good but it makes no sense.
trevon1
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Jingle Jangle:
“It's a bit heavy-handed to suggest that when someone makes a pass at someone else they are sexually harassing them. They may be, but they may be just trying it on. Isn't that the way of the world? Robbie acted completely inappropriately towards Nancy, but I wouldn't call it harassment.”

I see what your saying and perhaps I'm being overzealous, but making a pass verbally I think is different than making a pass physically which is what Robbie did. Also, the fact that he did it to his teacher shows the disrespect he has for that position in my opinion. Trying it on with a teacher is different than trying it on with a girl in your class that you had been flirting with.
mimicole
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Neomysterio:
“Diane is just horrendous.”

I'm watching this on C4 now. I can't wait for the truth to come out about Finn and John Paul. Finn is a disgusting and evil character.
Lizzie Brookes
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Jingle Jangle:
“It's a bit heavy-handed to suggest that when someone makes a pass at someone else they are sexually harassing them. They may be, but they may be just trying it on. Isn't that the way of the world? Robbie acted completely inappropriately towards Nancy, but I wouldn't call it harassment.”

I agree.
Lizzie Brookes
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by mimicole:
“I'm watching this on C4 now. I can't wait for the truth to come out about Finn and John Paul. Finn is a disgusting and evil character.”

I agree. And blaming poor Robbie just to save his own skin. If I had been Blessing I would have said "Tony I don't want to break your heart but I can't let Robbie take the blame for something he didn't do."
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