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Billy is such a moron.
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danyell
03-06-2014
Are you serious? Of course he's going to be angry. The mother of his kids is going to take his kids half way round the world. A years quite a long time especially for young children. They probably will forget about Billy by the time they get back.
kitkat1971
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by vald:
“It's bad enough for divorced fathers that they only see their kids every couple of weeks. A year is a long time, and how does he know she'll bring them back. She could meet someone over there and decide to stay on. Loving your kids doesn't make you a moron.”

Exactly. What if William gets offered more work and they want to extend the contract? Or, as mentioned above, Honey meets somebody and marries them? There is no guantEe that they'll return in a year and even if they did, a year is a long time to not see your kids. Also, without wanting to be morbid, Downs Syndrome children sometimes have a shorter life expectancy so missing a year of Janet's life could become even more important.

Honey is in the wrong here not to have even discussed it +- she's had time to sell her house but not tell Billy? Plus, legally she can't take them without his permission and he could at least delay them going by getting a Solicitor involved but he probably doesn't realise that - poor sod.
0...0
03-06-2014
Meh, Billy is a Mitchell. He can get High Priestess Ronnie on the case to snatch them back.
T.K. Mazin
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“I want to know what attracted her in the first place ”

She could not resist Billy the Bad Boy. How can any woman turn down a man who rose to fame by stealing the post? That makes him a irresistable prospect if you ask me. I would say Billy redefined all soap bad boys since that pioneering storyline.
Boofie
03-06-2014
I thought she was going to ask him to come along
SULLA
03-06-2014
Originally Posted by Joshyx:
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Spoiler
Billy will leave for a month after he converts to islam. Billy will become Walfords first ever IMAM and change his named to Mohammed Mitchell.
”

Still a Mitchell though
dottzie38
03-06-2014
Again common sense goes out the script writing window Billy has automatic paternal rights to both children and As such Honey needs his permission to move them away
boddism
04-06-2014
I actually think Perry Fenwick is a decent actor, but- what is the point of Billy these days?? He simply doesnt have any role in the show (other than to appear occasionally as Lola's Dad). Hes earning a good living from EE & he's a glorified extra- has been for some years.

(I love Patrick to death- but its the same for him too! Hes been in the show for almost 20 years & he hasnt had a decent storyline for almost that long).

Why are characters like Patrick & Billy kept for so log when they are not used?? Its not as if they have achieved June Brown's status of living legend & are untouchable?
CherryRose
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by PorkchopExpress:
“And selfish. IT'S ONLY A YEAR and IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY for your child. Are we supposed to be sympathetic to Billy?”

What's moronic is this storyline, Billy has Parental responsibility and could easily obtain an emergency prohibited steps order to prevent Honey from removing the children from the country.

Then a judge would have to decide.

Does on Phil Mitchell only know what a solicitor is?
Heathyheath_
04-06-2014
I feel mixed about the whole thing to be quite honest. As said previously in the thread the storyline just seems to reek of filler and it's not helped by how unrealistic and silly I personally find the whole thing. To believe that William would be randomly scouted by a Canadian company who think the boy is that special and fitting for whatever if is he's modelling for that they'd move Honey over to Canada and pay her enough money to justify it is just silly.

At the same time I do like Billy and I'm happy that the character is getting a part to play in the show that features him. I think it's annoying he doesn't just insist as a father he's not a giving Honey permission to take fhem instead of burning Janet's passport because to me it doesn't make sense which is sadly a recurring theme in this storyline. Saying that though the scene where Ian gave Billy a day off with full pay to spend with his daughter and son really tugged on my heart strings and was the highlight of the episode for me. Billy is somebody I often barely notice but who I know I would miss if he was gone if that makes sense?
Queen Albert
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by boddism:
“I actually think Perry Fenwick is a decent actor, but- what is the point of Billy these days?? He simply doesnt have any role in the show (other than to appear occasionally as Lola's Dad). Hes earning a good living from EE & he's a glorified extra- has been for some years.

(I love Patrick to death- but its the same for him too! Hes been in the show for almost 20 years & he hasnt had a decent storyline for almost that long).

Why are characters like Patrick & Billy kept for so log when they are not used?? Its not as if they have achieved June Brown's status of living legend & are untouchable?”

Billy is Lola's grandad. Her dad was Billy's son. Billy's partner had him, when Billy was still quite young. So Janet and William are great uncle/aunt (grandparent's sibling) of Lexi -who's playing toys with them!
vald
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by boddism:
“I actually think Perry Fenwick is a decent actor, but- what is the point of Billy these days?? He simply doesnt have any role in the show (other than to appear occasionally as Lola's Dad). Hes earning a good living from EE & he's a glorified extra- has been for some years.

(I love Patrick to death- but its the same for him too! Hes been in the show for almost 20 years & he hasnt had a decent storyline for almost that long).

Why are characters like Patrick & Billy kept for so log when they are not used?? Its not as if they have achieved June Brown's status of living legend & are untouchable?”

I think he's suffered a bit from Janine's leaving. They had a strange sort of friendship that went back many years...nevertheless it worked. He played a big part in getting Lexi back from Phil, taking him on and winning for maybe the first time in his life. Granted he is not used enough, but nor is Denise and Masood. Even Carol is getting her first s/l in years.
trevor tiger
04-06-2014
I expect someone'll be happy

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Originally Posted by Heathyheath_:
“I feel mixed about the whole thing to be quite honest. As said previously in the thread the storyline just seems to reek of filler and it's not helped by how unrealistic and silly I personally find the whole thing. To believe that William would be randomly scouted by a Canadian company who think the boy is that special and fitting for whatever if is he's modelling for that they'd move Honey over to Canada and pay her enough money to justify it is just silly.

At the same time I do like Billy and I'm happy that the character is getting a part to play in the show that features him. I think it's annoying he doesn't just insist as a father he's not a giving Honey permission to take fhem instead of burning Janet's passport because to me it doesn't make sense which is sadly a recurring theme in this storyline. Saying that though the scene where Ian gave Billy a day off with full pay to spend with his daughter and son really tugged on my heart strings and was the highlight of the episode for me. Billy is somebody I often barely notice but who I know I would miss if he was gone if that makes sense?”

This is it. I actually expected Billy to laugh in Honey's face when she said this and say 'what lengths will you go to to get me out of my kid's life?' because that's what Honey's preposterous story sounded like
Selena
04-06-2014
Billy has a right to be angry, any loving parent would be.
lotty27
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by vald:
“It's bad enough for divorced fathers that they only see their kids every couple of weeks. A year is a long time, and how does he know she'll bring them back. She could meet someone over there and decide to stay on. Loving your kids doesn't make you a moron.”

Well said vald. Agree with all your post but just wanted to highlight the bit I've bolded. Yes Billy can be a bloody idiot but in this I'm behind him all the way, he loves his kids/family and Honey can't just take them out of the country! Anywhere in the UK yes, but not out of the country!

Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Exactly. What if William gets offered more work and they want to extend the contract? Or, as mentioned above, Honey meets somebody and marries them? There is no guantEe that they'll return in a year and even if they did, a year is a long time to not see your kids. Also, without wanting to be morbid, Downs Syndrome children sometimes have a shorter life expectancy so missing a year of Janet's life could become even more important.

Honey is in the wrong here not to have even discussed it +- she's had time to sell her house but not tell Billy? Plus, legally she can't take them without his permission and he could at least delay them going by getting a Solicitor involved but he probably doesn't realise that - poor sod.]”

That's the worst part of all to me, she's just taken it for granted that Billy would roll over and give in.

I also think Honey is being really sneaky. She knows that Billy isn't too bright and is probably unaware that he has as many rights in this as her and is playing on his ignorance to ensure it comes off. Plus, just in case someone has told him, she's left it right until the last minute to tell him so that he has limited time to do anything about it (just in case someone like Phil stumped up the funds to take it to solicitors/court in the first place - another way Honey is being sneaky IMO as she knows Billy is skint and left to his own devices can't afford to stop her.)

Originally Posted by 0...0:
“Meh, Billy is a Mitchell. He can get High Priestess Ronnie on the case to snatch them back.”

LOL!!

Originally Posted by dottzie38:
“Again common sense goes out the script writing window Billy has automatic paternal rights to both children and As such Honey needs his permission to move them away”

Even Lola knew this - how come Billy didn't (mind you, I'm only half way through last night's episode at the moment, maybe he does cotton on before the end?!)
olivej
04-06-2014
why on earth is Billy a moron for being put out that his ex wife is taking his kid away for a year?

surely he is responding like any other father would at the thought of not being able to see his son - a year is a long time!
lotty27
04-06-2014
That's another thing, Honey goes on about it being a great opportunity for the kids, how many kids of their age see the world etc. That's the thing - kids of their age, they're hardly going to remember a thing or appreciate any of it! When they're older yes but not the age they're at now. Let's be straight about this, it's a great opportunity for her.
kitkat1971
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by lotty27:
“That's another thing, Honey goes on about it being a great opportunity for the kids, how many kids of their age see the world etc. That's the thing - kids of their age, they're hardly going to remember a thing or appreciate any of it! When they're older yes but not the age they're at now. Let's be straight about this, it's a great opportunity for her.”

Exactly. She's probably got hopes of being discovered herself I bet she hasn't given up on her modelling dreams. William needs a 'mother' for a commercial - that type of thing. Even if that doesn't happen, yes an adult is going to get a lot more out of it than a kid whol'll spend at least the earlt weeks or months missing their Dad (and other people they know in the UK like Honey's aunty) and won't remember it when they're older.

Selling the house is drastic as well - couldn't she rent it out for a year? That's what my friend did when she was seconded to Australia for 12 months with work. Selling it implies she knows there is a good chance she won't ever come back.

I also agree that she has left it till the last minute to make it harder for Billy to stop her - even if it is sub conscious.
wwinterj
04-06-2014
Billy is a bit of a moron and quite unlucky but it's not because he doesn't want his kids to be taken away. A year in another country with next to no chance of going to see them is a tough pill to swallow. I think a decision should be made that both parents are happy with. Either take Billy with them or they stay. The best thing to do for everyone is for Billy to go with but he needs quite a lot of cash to do that.
kitkat1971
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by wwinterj:
“Billy is a bit of a moron and quite unlucky but it's not because he doesn't want his kids to be taken away. A year in another country with next to no chance of going to see them is a tough pill to swallow. I think a decision should be made that both parents are happy with. Either take Billy with them or they stay. The best thing to do for everyone is for Billy to go with but he needs quite a lot of cash to do that.”

Except that would leave Lola and Lexi in the lurch somewhat. This is what Honey doesn't seem to have considered, that it effects the whole extended family.

Plus of course, would Billy even be able to get a Visa to stay in Canada for that long? I assume Honey has got one as she is William (who unbelievably this Canadian modelling agency thinks is so 'right' for their campaign that no Caandian kid will do) primary carer bu her divorced husband might be a different matter and Lola and Lexi certainly would be.
J-B
04-06-2014
Had to do a double take, thought this was another thread about mormons
Cody1
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“If I ever become a father, I'd be well annoyed if I couldnt see Scrabbler jr for a whole year.”

exactly ! take mine away from me for a month 500 miles away and i would riot ! to the other side of the world for a year no way it wouldn't happen !

Especially in young children, they develop so much in one year They dont give a crap about what country they are in or the experience they are getting, their world is their mummy and daddy.

Billys not a moron at all
kitkat1971
04-06-2014
Originally Posted by Cody1:
“exactly ! take mine away from me for a month 500 miles away and i would riot ! to the other side of the world for a year no way it wouldn't happen !

Especially in young children, they develop so much in one year They dont give a crap about what country they are in or the experience they are getting, their world is their mummy and daddy.

Billys not a moron at all”

Exactly - they change so much at that age. maybe if they were older so they could actually benefit from the experience (ie they'll remember it when they're adults) and could use Skype etc to maintain contact with Billy it wouldn't be so bad but they're not.
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